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Spangly A posted:"I don't do politics, why do people keep exploiting me, lets vote to extend the work week" My mum only votes Lib Dem, not because she is actually a liberal, but because she doesn't trust Labour or the Tories. She also considered voting Ukip at some point, for the same reason.
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 14:47 |
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forkboy84 posted:"I don't trust Labour but I do trust the party who went into coalition & proceeded to abandon their voters". She's a climate change denier who believes in homeopathy so you aren't exactly wrong.
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 14:53 |
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Spangly A posted:The thing I find most alarming is, if it was a zero sum game, it'd still be ok. White men do not deserve to have it better. And yet everyone is trained to believe that it's ok, so you end up with white women and, less often, other minorities arguing these same things. Most racists don't believe white men to have it better though. They genuinely believe minorities are treated better by society.
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 15:49 |
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What happens if Ukippers get their wish and all the immigrants actually go?
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2017 19:31 |
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jabby posted:This is the fundamental problem the left has - there are just more right wing Tory/UKIP supporters than there are progressive Labour/Lib Dem/Green supporters. Voters move more easily between the parties inside their 'block', and the progressive block is dividing more while the Tories eat up UKIP. What's the chance of olds dying off ever affecting this?
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2017 16:00 |
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Jose posted:things are going to be extremely bad before public opinion turns against the tories https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/19/why-some-tories-fear-blood-on-the-streets tories are scared, apparently
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2017 17:43 |
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neoliberalism was a mistake
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2017 19:08 |
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why are so many people right wing anyway? public opinion for things like nationalisation of railways is pretty high iirc are they just so scared of immigrants that they'll accept whatever neoliberal bullshit as long as the browns are kept out?
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2017 12:17 |
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Jedit posted:Between wrecking the NHS, causing mass unemployment and starving the resulting poor to death I wouldn't be surprised if May's body count ends up exceeding Blair's. It's a close run thing, but at least with Blair we were left with a functioning economy and public health and not a fascist international pariah. reminder that tories are afraid of riots in the next two years
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2017 22:48 |
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Namtab posted:The example that always springs to my mind when this topic comes up is the fact that people try and use the fact that tube drivers get more money than me, a nurse, to try and get me and my peers to agitate against their strikes for better pay and conditions. i hate it when people complain about strikes. like, they're supposed to be disruptive, if they weren't, what's the point i guess i never had a problem with them because when i first learnt what they were it was teachers strikes and that meant you got the day off school
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2017 00:03 |
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people have got to be sick of austerity and stop voting in tories eventually, right?
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2017 15:29 |
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Regarde Aduck posted:The Tories have control of both the social and economic narrative. They are fine with austerity. Blitz spirit etc. Things are bad because of REASONS, who knows what these reasons are, so it's time to "get on with it". Purposeful political decisions are constantly being claimed as 'how the world works'. Like how everyone seems to think immigration is a problem so the only argument is over how it should be reduced, and how the argument isn't over whether cuts are necessary, but what to cut. Neoliberal hegemony was a mistake. Everything just seems completely insane. It seems like tories will just keep cutting spending forever until we are an ancap hellhole.
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2017 17:41 |
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 05:00 |
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who would win in a fight between trotskyite infiltrators and murdoch aligned blairite plotters?
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2017 22:20 |