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goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Pissflaps posted:

I'd only consider voting Labour, though it's far from certain I would.

It's worth pointing out, for good or ill, that the reason we have Trump isn't because lots or Republican voters turned out - their total share of the electorate stayed remarkably constant in '08, '12, and '16 - but that Democrats didn't.

A similar fate awaits Labour (and the UK) if they don't start getting much more consistently and loudly on the attack, with concrete plans and decent control of the narrative, because right now "Eh maybe gas bills could be a bit lower" isn't a slogan to get people out in 2020.

# ¿ Feb 5, 2017 00:07

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# ¿ May 2, 2024 13:45

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

namesake posted:

Talking point: It's pretty amazing that the Tories recovery has increased the debt almost as much the Labours response to a global financial crisis did.

Better talking point - the actual rise in the budget deficit under Gideon is actually considerably higher than that graph makes it appear because an awful lot of debt taken on in 07-09 was nationalising and otherwise shoring up the banks, and much of that money has now been paid back. Our PSBR would be in almost exactly the same place had the credit crunch never happened because - and this needs to be branded on the forehead of anyone who talks about the economy like it's a credit card - AUSTERITY DOES NOT REDUCE DEBT.

# ¿ Feb 5, 2017 00:12

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

jabby posted:

Some didn't support a referendum. Corbyn and the vast majority of Labour did, and the Greens did.

The honest answer to the question of course is either 'we didn't really want a referendum but wanted to seem like we support democracy' or 'we wanted a referendum but the public voted wrong so now we want to ignore it'. Neither of which is likely to go down well with the public.

You can have all the time in the world to prepare for a question and there still not be a good answer.

The answer is actually "We wanted a referendum because it would tear the Tory Party apart when it didn't go the way of the Eurosceptics".

# ¿ Feb 5, 2017 15:46

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

jabby posted:

Fields are great when they're growing crops or full of cows/sheep/etc. Most green belt land isn't like that.

I'm sure I've had this argument here before but [citation needed] because most of London's Green Belt is farmland, and in the case of Essex and Kent is some of the most intensively-farmed land in the country.

# ¿ Feb 7, 2017 17:47

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Pantsuit posted:

The problem people have in this thread is seeing Brexit voters as reasonable human beings and not violent animals that want anyone not white and english dead.

That's either an awful lot of turkeys voting for Christmas, or maybe politics is a lot more nuanced than WE GOOD THEY BAD

# ¿ Feb 7, 2017 17:50

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

mehall posted:

First off, sample size of the non-white portions of that survey is awful.

Secondly, those communities were hopeful ahead of Brexit that it may improve relations with their countries of origin, or by the lies told about the NHS (and before anyone steps in ~~Pissflaps~~ to challenge that, no I don't mean literally all of them, but both those aspects are highly relevant for those communities.)

I know, I was simply pointing out that there were reasons beyond KILL THE DARKIES why people voted Leave. They might not have been good reasons, but treating all Leave voters as an homogenous morass made from 100% recycled Daily Mail headlines is exactly the sort of thinking that got us into this position in the first place.

# ¿ Feb 7, 2017 18:04

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

What's wrong with post-industrial landscapes, I live in one and I like it fine

Speaking as someone who lives near Canary Wharf (and has done most of their life), post-post-industrial landscapes loving suck.

# ¿ Feb 7, 2017 22:21

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Jose posted:

I thought you were a Leeds supporter

Mods ban this vile filth.

# ¿ Feb 8, 2017 09:20

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Pissflaps posted:

I don't think I've ever heard of a speaker being criticised for partisan bias before - is that a thing or are we using our imaginations?

Every speaker is accused of it, to a greater or lesser extent, and it's mostly ignored because every politician passionately believes that everyone else is biased against them.

I'm not aware of a speaker so willing to use his position to further their own opinions though, that's a bit of a major faux pas for someone who officially doesn't have any opinion whatsoever and is just an avatar for the rules of the House.

# ¿ Feb 12, 2017 19:14

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-38962931

quote:

A neo-Nazi teenager who made a home-made pipe bomb has been sentenced to a three-year youth rehabilitation order.

Talk about torn - while I think rehab is good and prison should be avoided where possible, especially for young people, I think building a pipe bomb while loudly calling for violent acts against other people should probably warrant a harsher sentence than he'd have got for being caught carrying a knife (second offence has a mandatory 4-month detention order).

I also can't believe that had he failed the paper bag test they'd have let him wiggle out of the "Planning an act of terrorism" charge what with him claiming he was going to blow people up in Facebook posts where he also boasted of being part of a group now proscribed under the Terrorism Act.

# ¿ Feb 13, 2017 23:28

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

MikeCrotch posted:

My guess is that someone will find a reason for Wallasey CLP to be kept suspended since deselection proceedings will probably begin approximately a nanosecond after they are allowed to meet again.

Don't worry, that won't happen. CLPs aren't able to force deselection any more!

Baron Corbyn posted:

Hey, looks like The Sun have decided to back to posting straight up "ew gays" bullshit and outing people for no apparent reason.

Don't forget kids it's absolutely essential we have total freedom of the press (and no right to privacy) so they can expose important stories like this!

# ¿ Feb 14, 2017 12:03

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Serotonin posted:

I didn't spot them use the term male nurse which in my eyes is also a step forward. gently caress that stupid term.

I'd love to think it was progress but I'm willing to bet they realised they'd get a lot more clicks from "Nurse did porn" rather than "male nurse did gay porn" as a headline.

# ¿ Feb 14, 2017 21:23

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

serious gaylord posted:

RBS are going to get turbo hosed

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38984130

Wait, you think banks receive negative consequences for criminal behaviour? Have you paid attention at all in the last ~~10 20 50~~ 100 years?

# ¿ Feb 16, 2017 00:55

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

big scary monsters posted:

This reminded me of the actual, real-life, mordern-day Jacobite I met one time while I was out for a walk in Irvine. He was extremely angry about Douglases, let me tell you.

Do they still send those mad letters to the guy in Bavaria that's James' last descendant offering to start the war any time he wants?

# ¿ Feb 16, 2017 16:50

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Namtab posted:

Hot take: brexit could never have been stopped. the second the Tories won a majority government with the manifesto commitment to hold a referendum brexit was inevitable.

Given right up to referendum day even most of the top of the Leave campaigns weren't expecting a win, I'd hardly call it inevitable. Hell, if the weather had been a bit nicer PM Cameron would be just finishing up The Harrying Of The Back Benches about now.

# ¿ Feb 17, 2017 13:25

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Cerv posted:

like this?

look at those libdems surge

It's unbelievable how badly Labour mismanaged the referendum and it's fallout. They were given about the biggest open goal in political history and instead spent three months in a protracted attempt to replace Corbyn with the world's most forgettable man.

I don't think Corbyn was at all blameless on this - had he been better organised and much, much, much better at handling the press the PLP would never have had the balls to try it and maybe, just maybe, we might not even have ended up with the Leave vote. After all the constituencies that went hardest for Leave (compared to projections) were Labour strongholds and really could have done with a properly-run Leave campaign from them.

# ¿ Feb 19, 2017 00:11

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Pissflaps posted:

Do you have any evidence that 'new labour members energised the ground game' or are you just assuming that this is a thing that happened?

Given labour's utter capitulation in the face of the article 50 vote I really don't know what you were expecting labour to do in front of this open goal. Spend even more time agreeing with the Tories?

Eh, I get the thinking behind the three-line whip but it's a hell of a time for Corbyn to start remembering party discipline is a thing. Also even if it was absolutely 100% the right thing to do as part of a wider strategy, he must surely have known that quite a few people would defy it and now he ends up just looking even weaker and less in control of the party.

Realistically once we got to this point I don't think there actually is a winning strategy, in any meaningful terms. Someone with better political chops might be able to use this as a leaping-off point to a series of attacks on every last thing that comes out of the negotiations and hope that this can be used to force another referendum (or maybe even a whole GE) to head it off, and I don't think Corbyn - or indeed anyone in the PLP - has those chops, in the face of an almost universally hostile press.

loving hell at this point Corbyn is so unpopular probably the best thing he can do to head off Brexit is come out enthusiastically for it and appear on Strictly doing a tango with Nigel Farage.

# ¿ Feb 19, 2017 09:25

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Pistol_Pete posted:

Britain still has one of the biggest military budgets in the world although, oddly, this doesn't seem to translate into an awful lot of actual capability. I've sometimes thought about going to work for the MOD, 'cos all those billions must be going somewhere and why shouldn't I get my cut?

I remember a few months back, there was a media fuss after some recently retired military bigwig publicly fretted about how Britain's current armed forces would struggle to defend us in the face of serious Russian aggression without the help of the United States and everyone was like: "as if the US would EVER step back from NATO! Silly old fool "

Almost all of the money's going on the "blue water" capability the Navy has been asking for since the Eagle was decommissioned.

The fact that we have literally no blue water missions for the Navy to go on, have not had such missions since 1982, completely lack the support infrastructure for such a navy, have completely crippled our existing capabilities to do so, and are unlikely to ever have a navy capable of even the incredibly limited things that have been promised, are all secondary to ~~funnelling money up BAE's arse as quickly as the MoD can write the cheques~~ this important commitment to keeping Britain at the top table.

# ¿ Feb 20, 2017 09:29

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

This makes me unreasonably angry, and you see it on basically any large housing development in London. No mention of what an interesting place it is to live, whether there's nice views, local shops, or even a picture of the loving develoopment. The fact it's almost directly opposite the Freedom Press and on the site of the first skirmishes of the Battle of Cable Street makes it feel like I'm being teabagged though.

# ¿ Feb 20, 2017 17:26

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Paxman posted:

He ordered his MPs to vote for Tory hard Brexit, one where the top priority is keeping foreigners out even if it hurts the economy as Theresa May has made clear.

Labour put down some sensible amendments but then chose to vote for the Bill after they were all rejected, ie a Bill which just gives Theresa May the power to do whatever she likes.

He can't turn around in a couple of years and say actually that was a mistake and hard Brexit isn't working without looking silly.

Erm... when exactly did that happen, then? Because the Bill they voted for, says, in it's entirety:

quote:

BILL

TO

Confer power on the Prime Minister to notify, under Article 50(2) of the Treaty
on European Union, the United Kingdom�s intention to withdraw from the
EU.

Be it enacted by the Queen�s most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and
consent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and Commons, in this present
Parliament assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:�

1 Power to notify withdrawal from the EU
(1)The Prime Minister may notify, under Article 50(2) of the Treaty on European
Union, the United Kingdom�s intention to withdraw from the EU.
(2)This section has effect despite any provision made by or under the European
Communities Act 1972 or any other enactment.
2 Short title
This Act may be cited as the European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Act
2017.

That's it. That's the entire law. Nothing about, hard, soft, red, white, blue or Full English Brexit. Literally just a law saying "Start the process". There is now at least two years of negotiation over how this will actually happen and fuckloads of politicking to happen here and in Europe.

# ¿ Feb 21, 2017 10:30

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Darth Walrus posted:

Another element of parliamentary procedure that often escapes folks - whips are traditionally a mark of respect for a bill's importance in a system built on tradition. The more important a bill is, the more required a political party is to signal its position on it by whipping. For example, the Syria vote, as a declaration of war, would traditionally be a two-line whip, which is why Corbyn was pounced upon for his weakness when he allowed a free vote. For constitutional amendments, a three-line whip is required - a party failing to have a position on something so important is a sign that they are no longer a party, but a collection of independent MPs. You can go for a lighter whip if you really want, but no whip at all is basically a resignation letter. Since Article 50 was functionally a constitutional amendment, that simply left Corbyn with a binary choice of which way to whip, and so he went for the option supported by a plurality of his voters and 70% of his constituencies.

Citation needed on... well just about all of that, to be honest.

# ¿ Feb 21, 2017 13:24

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

TinTower posted:

The government have scored a very narrow win on mixed-sex civil partnerships, saying that they can still prohibit them temporarily, but an indefinite prohibition may run counter to Convention rights.

Is there a material difference between a civil partnership and a registry office wedding?

# ¿ Feb 21, 2017 17:35

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Pissflaps posted:

You can have a civil marriage at lots of places other than registry offices.

Oh I know that, I just always think of any secular wedding as being a "registry office" wedding. Probably showing my age and upbringing a bit there.

# ¿ Feb 21, 2017 17:49

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Jose posted:

https://twitter.com/mikerainham/status/834164571439001604?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Given the bookies track record on the last two GEs, the referendum, and the last US Presidential election, I'm actually pretty reassured by this.

# ¿ Feb 22, 2017 11:24

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Pissflaps posted:

The National Front are 'left wing'?

Fascists have used left-wing economic rhetoric from the very start:

quote:

11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.

15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

19. We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.

20. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.

21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.

The real miracle of the modern right-wing is that for the most part they've managed to convince people to vote for a platform that is nakedly "More money for the rich, gently caress the poor".

# ¿ Feb 22, 2017 13:46

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Baron Corbyn posted:

Trump, or at least the people around him, are obviously compromised by the Russians but why the gently caress would they care if they got Miliband or Cameron? Hey, at least it would explain the recurring theme in the press of Red Ed being so weak and how he'd be so intimidated by Big Bad Vlad.

I don't actually believe they interfered with the election itself*, but you could certainly say that Cameron's much more laissez-faire economic policy and frankly shambolic energy policy are both directly and hugely advantageous to Russian plutocrats. If they could have chosen someone to be PM it would have been Farage but if they could only nudge things a few points then Cameron would have been their choice.

* but I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out they were working, with technical and with human sources, within the parties to get an idea what was going on - that's what intelligence agencies do.

# ¿ Feb 22, 2017 14:04

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Pissflaps posted:

I'm susceptible to wind.

Surely hanging around in this thread has to be bad for you then?

# ¿ Feb 22, 2017 23:05

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Having said all that, "Jeremy" is the most middle-class name imaginable.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 09:06

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Baron Corbyn posted:

Does being named "Jeremy" make you posh? My uncle's named Jeremy, I'm sure he'll be delighted to hear that he's reached the upper echelons of society.

It's not posh, it's solidly middle-class. I've never met a scaffolder called Jeremy.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 09:30

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

JFairfax posted:

you can pretty much hitch a ride on a merchant navy vessel, even to this day it's a pretty cheap way of travelling long distances if you're not worried about getting there quickly

It's actually easier nowadays because there are websites devoted to matching people up to cargo ships going their way, rather than you having to walk/ring around shipping agents on the off-chance.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 09:31

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Pissflaps posted:

Sounds like a wizard adventure Jeremy. Back home to the Manor House for lashings of ginger beer.

Middle class is posh.

Nah, posh is upper class, where the names loop back round to being working-class. Harry could be a scaffolder or he could be fourth in line to the throne, but just like there are no scaffolders called Jeremy there aren't any Dukes called Jeremy.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 09:38

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Zephro posted:

Hi goons.

I'm writing my will. Not because I'm about to die (as far as I know, anyway), but because it's a good idea. One of the things you have to do is specify what happens if your beneficiaries die before you do. At some point the connections get so distant and meaningless that I'd just rather give whatever money I'm leaving behind to a charity. I have a charity in mind, but I thought I'd do a bit of crowdsourcing before I make my final decision. So if anyone knows some charities that are particularly effective, or which serve "unpopular" but important problems, I'm open to suggestions.

Feel free to totally ignore this post if it's a downer compared to the usual jolly high-jinks of this thread, home of the Hope Is A Lie image-macro

I've got a fair chunk of cash in my will going to the PDSA and Dog's Trust, because humans can mostly get hosed but They're Good Dogs Zophre.

(I joke but PDSA in particular deserve a lot more love than they get - I know some people - even supposed leftists - will turn their noses up and say "Well poor people shouldn't have pets if they can't afford to keep them" but gently caress that. A pet can be a literal lifeline for a lot of people, and the idea that they should be left to die of something relatively treatable is loving abhorrent)

# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 18:06

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

forkboy84 posted:

No, gently caress off. We've already had Labour leaders who do their bit to break strikes, I will never support one of those.

I'm utterly fascinated at the idea that Hilary Benn having positive ratings. I'm just going to assume the public looks at every view I hold and acts contrarian.

He shouted a lot about how much he wants to bomb Syria. That's pretty much all it takes.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 18:09

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Taear posted:

Not always - a population can be the only one left and everyone comes from them and has their random mutation. Think haemophilia.

Haemophilia isn't a single mutation and can happen spontaneously - there's no "patient zero" to be found, and it can affect almost any mammal.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 19:12

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TinTower posted:

One of the things I do like about the GMCA is that technically Stansted is a Manchester airport.

If they want it, they can have it - buyer collects though. It takes a lot to make Luton look like a well-run efficient airport but by god Stansted manages it.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 19:29

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Pantsuit posted:

Of course she is. I think it stems from the belief that the white English population is indigneous to Britain, so if you don't have bloodlines stretching back generations you're not English/British so should be got rid of. Honestly, the English/British identity is inherently racist.

Funnily enough, these rules don't seem to apply to America, Canada and Australia...

Speaking as someone with pretty solid Celtic ancestors, I always like to tell these types that yeah we should totally be kicking all these Romans, Angles, Saxons, Normans etc out. Calling Nigel Farage an arriviste Huguenot oval office makes no actual difference to the world but is still satisfying.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 19:33

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

oxford_town posted:

is this an accurate statement? there were about 150 Polish pilots in the Battle of Britain and over 2,000 "British" pilots

303 Squadron was easily the most effective formation in the Battle of Britain and arguably were the deciding factor in the penultimate phase of the battle, the point where the Germans came closest to winning. It says something that even the ultimate gung-ho "England saves the world" film of the battle makes a big point of just how good the Poles were.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 20:41

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Verizian posted:

I'm in hospital after having back surgery this morning and it's a loving disgrace. They're rationing mushroom soup to the old guys and I've been waiting since 2pm to see a doctor about the meds the prescribed but just been told there's no guarantee the on call will show up when he's called.

In short, gently caress the Tories and their cuts.

On the other hand the staff are miracle workers and the place is a lot cleaner than a decade ago. What's the best way to tell them thanks?

Never underestimate the power of the box of chocolates and the thank-you card. If someone has particularly stood out as being brilliant, a quick word with the ward sister can be good too.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 21:22

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Pissflaps posted:

You consider Tony Blair to be a 'right winger' and he achieved more for poor people than Corbyn ever will.

Well he certainly helped 300,000 poor people leave poverty in Iraq.

# ¿ Feb 24, 2017 09:37

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# ¿ May 2, 2024 13:45

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Pochoclo posted:

The print Daily Mail and the online Daily Mail have different editors. They all hate each other and also we should hate all of them, of course.

Dacre is editor-in-chief of Associated Newspapers (or whatever they're called these days), so is the boss of the editors of all three, and certainly the person with the most influence over their editorial lines.

# ¿ Feb 25, 2017 23:08

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