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Pochoclo posted:What needs to happen is full socialism now. Some kind of epidemic disease that affects people and makes them care about others? mdma in the water supply
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Pochoclo posted:What needs to happen is full socialism now. Some kind of epidemic disease that affects people and makes them care about others? Thats not the direction things are going in Britain.
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Pissflaps posted:...you mean another candidate who cannot command the support of many labour MPs, right? Yeah what Labour needs is ed miliband again and all the electoral success therein
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Namtab posted:Yeah what Labour needs is ed miliband again and all the electoral success therein My man are you telling me that Owen Smith was not the Great Saviour of the Labour Party???
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Namtab posted:Yeah what Labour needs is ed miliband again and all the electoral success therein The days of Ed Miliband now seem like a golden age compared to Labour in 2017.
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hakimashou posted:Thats not the direction things are going in Britain. You don't say. I hadn't noticed!
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JFairfax posted:mdma in the water supply
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Pissflaps posted:...you mean another candidate who cannot command the support of many labour MPs, right? Yes, pretty much exactly. In fact how much a candidate is disliked by the current PLP would almost certainly be a good surrogate measure of how likely I'd be to support them.
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Pissflaps posted:The days of Ed Miliband now seem like a golden age compared to Labour in 2017. Its true, the Labour party was in striking distance under Milliband, it really lost its way after 2015.
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jabby posted:Yes, pretty much exactly. In fact how much a candidate is disliked by the current PLP would almost certainly be a good surrogate measure of how likely I'd be to support them. If you know that this kind of spiteful behavior will only lead to further Tory gains, in what way is it wrong to say you just support the Tories? "Spite, Spite is the word of your undoing!"
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Seaside Loafer posted:I strongly believe that a whole bunch of evil cunts opinions about everything could be changed if they just took half a pill one weekend when they didn't have anything to do the next day. "RED ROOFIES: Commie Corbyn's plan to Dope Up Voters" "SHOCKER: Labour Activists Plot to Pollute BRITAIN's Water Supply with Dangerous Amphetamines" "LABOUR: THEY WONT VOTE FOR US UNLESS THEY ARE HIGH AS A KITE" hakimashou fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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Seaside Loafer posted:I strongly believe that a whole bunch of evil cunts opinions about everything could be changed if they just took half a pill one weekend when they didn't have anything to do the next day. Counterpoint: George Osborne.
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hakimashou posted:If you know that this kind of spiteful behavior will only lead to further Tory gains, in what way is it wrong to say you just support the Tories? It's not spiteful at all. I'm not saying I'd like a candidate because the PLP hates them. I'm saying any candidate with policies I like will be hated by the PLP.
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Jedit posted:Counterpoint: George Osborne.
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Pissflaps posted:The days of Ed Miliband now seem like a golden age compared to Labour in 2017. Not a vote winner that man, unelectable in fact
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As one of the many broke brains of grate brightane I would ask that no one doses my water with random hallucinogens. It would be less funny than you'd expect.
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mediadave posted:Don't worry too much about another Iraq - the relentless defence cuts since 2003 mean it would be literally impossible to contribute in that way again. Britain still has one of the biggest military budgets in the world although, oddly, this doesn't seem to translate into an awful lot of actual capability. I've sometimes thought about going to work for the MOD, 'cos all those billions must be going somewhere and why shouldn't I get my cut? I remember a few months back, there was a media fuss after some recently retired military bigwig publicly fretted about how Britain's current armed forces would struggle to defend us in the face of serious Russian aggression without the help of the United States and everyone was like: "as if the US would EVER step back from NATO! Silly old fool  "
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jabby posted:Yes, pretty much exactly. In fact how much a candidate is disliked by the current PLP would almost certainly be a good surrogate measure of how likely I'd be to support them. If labour's platform and MPs were so opposed to your views it makes me wonder why you voted for them in the past.
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Pissflaps posted:If labour's platform and MPs were so opposed to your views it makes me wonder why you voted for them in the past. Is that his fault or Labours for being so ill defined? Are they left? Centre left? Centre centre? Some seemingly want to be centre right. Blaism was basically not on the political spectrum and seemed made up as they went. They believed in the NHS but also in big business that got them a lot of votes but also started the rot. So now we have Blair back telling people to abandon Brexit which was a good thing he did. But he did it by pointing out that Brexit won't stop the 'scary' immigrants, the non white ones. This sums up modern Labour.
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Regarde Aduck posted:Is that his fault or Labours for being so ill defined? Are they left? Centre left? Centre centre? Some seemingly want to be centre right. Blaism was basically not on the political spectrum and seemed made up as they went. They believed in the NHS but also in big business that got them a lot of votes but also started the rot. So now we have Blair back telling people to abandon Brexit which was a good thing he did. But he did it by pointing out that Brexit won't stop the 'scary' immigrants, the non white ones. This sums up modern *Britain
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Pistol_Pete posted:Britain still has one of the biggest military budgets in the world although, oddly, this doesn't seem to translate into an awful lot of actual capability. I've sometimes thought about going to work for the MOD, 'cos all those billions must be going somewhere and why shouldn't I get my cut? Almost all of the money's going on the "blue water" capability the Navy has been asking for since the Eagle was decommissioned. The fact that we have literally no blue water missions for the Navy to go on, have not had such missions since 1982, completely lack the support infrastructure for such a navy, have completely crippled our existing capabilities to do so, and are unlikely to ever have a navy capable of even the incredibly limited things that have been promised, are all secondary to
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Almost all of the money's going on the "blue water" capability the Navy has been asking for since the Eagle was decommissioned. Given the only thing between us and Trumps's America is blue water, perhaps that's not such a bad thing. radmonger fucked around with this message at 11:59 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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Jose posted:UKIP are melting down 2 chairman have quit over the hillsborough lie This is bad for Corbyn
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MikeCrotch posted:This is bad for Corbyn It is amazing that UKIP have shown that Labour aren't the most disorganised political party. Farage may have been a miracle worker keeping that shambles in check for so long. Only the conservatives are the only national party with any effective organisation any more; Labour are a mess, UKIP are imploding, and the Lib Dems are none existent. Its so surprising considering the turmoil in the Tories prior to the Brexit vote.
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ukle posted:It is amazing that UKIP have shown that Labour aren't the most disorganised political party. Farage may have been a miracle worker keeping that shambles in check for so long. I think it could be more the other way around and Farage kept it as a one man band for so long that there's a severe lack of leadership talent in the party. Every time somebody became prominent, Farage seemed to fall out with them: he HATES sharing the limelight.
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Pochoclo posted:In 5 years each and every single politician in the UK will be running on a "rejoin the EU" platform anyway, just wait and see. Can't rejoin something that doesn't exist.
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If Nuttall's own party are rebelling against him, that must mean he's the ideal leader to take UKIP forward.His Divine Shadow posted:Can't rejoin something that doesn't exist. Reminder that leaving the EU is objectively the correct decision under this scenario.
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Pistol_Pete posted:I think it could be more the other way around and Farage kept it as a one man band for so long that there's a severe lack of leadership talent in the party. Every time somebody became prominent, Farage seemed to fall out with them: he HATES sharing the limelight. I also suspect that many in the party knew how their bread was buttered and suspected (rightly imo) that basically all of UKIPs success, as defined by media coverage and making other parties make concessions to them despite a lack of electoral success, was pretty much entirely down to Farage's masterful manipulation of the media cycle.
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I saw some builders with make america great again red trump caps on their dashboard this morning. I didn't realise this was a thing in the UK? Am I completely out of touch?
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Mr Nuttall really isnt having a good week lmao https://skwawkbox.org/2017/02/18/paulnuttallukip-youve-claimed-250k-for-your-uk-office-what-office-ukipfraud/
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Darth Walrus posted:A very good post on why you never, ever want to invade Iran. An amazing post. I'm ashamed to admit I didn't know poo poo about Iran, and vaguely assumed (when I thought about it at all) that it must basically be the same as Iraq, what with the name being only one letter different and all  Pistol_Pete posted:I remember a few months back, there was a media fuss after some recently retired military bigwig publicly fretted about how Britain's current armed forces would struggle to defend us in the face of serious Russian aggression without the help of the United States and everyone was like: "as if the US would EVER step back from NATO! Silly old fool As I recall, the more common tune around here was "why in the gently caress would Russia ever try to stage a land invasion of the UK?"
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Renaissance Robot posted:An amazing post. I'm ashamed to admit I didn't know poo poo about Iran, and vaguely assumed (when I thought about it at all) that it must basically be the same as Iraq, what with the name being only one letter different and all If you want to read further, I recommend this https://www.quora.com/What-would-be-the-nature-of-a-US-led-invasion-of-Iran
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Farage was the only acceptable public face of the party, but more relevantly they just fulfilled their raison d'etre. I mean, what does a UK Independence Party stand for now that they have Brexit? They're a party in massive limbo, and they need some variety of miracle worker to rebrand them and maintain their electoral relevance. Of course I hope that doesn't happen and they implode in spectacular fashion.
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I've just sorted out a very cool placement for my journalism master's and I'm excited about the prospects this could lead to. Just wanted to share, my degree's been a bit poo poo so far but this is encouraging.
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Seaside Loafer posted:He's a coke head not an e popper, coke is notorious for making cunts even bigger cunts That oval office cut my job under austerity. My job being with working with sick or injured mentally ill people in hospitals preventing them from stabbing doctors/nurses/ambulance men/the police.
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Coohoolin posted:I've just sorted out a very cool placement for my journalism master's and I'm excited about the prospects this could lead to. Well, if it all goes tits up you can always write for the National.
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Jeza posted:Farage was the only acceptable public face of the party, but more relevantly they just fulfilled their raison d'etre. I mean, what does a UK Independence Party stand for now that they have Brexit? They're a party in massive limbo, and they need some variety of miracle worker to rebrand them and maintain their electoral relevance. Of course I hope that doesn't happen and they implode in spectacular fashion. Yeah, Farage was good but the reason he was so popular was because he served a useful purpose. He was the mouthpiece Rupert Murdoch and the other media elites chose to spread the message they wanted. Now that the Tories are going full brexit UKIP doesn't enjoy the same kind of media protection. I mean they aren't hammered like Labour, but neither are negative stories about them buried either.
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jabby posted:Yeah, Farage was good but the reason he was so popular was because he served a useful purpose. He was the mouthpiece Rupert Murdoch and the other media elites chose to spread the message they wanted. Now that the Tories are going full brexit UKIP doesn't enjoy the same kind of media protection. I mean they aren't hammered like Labour, but neither are negative stories about them buried either. I think that's ignoring the fact that Farage was really one of, if not the first person to realise that by saying outrageous stuff the current cash-starved media couldn't help but give you airtime in order to drive ratings, so that people could gawp at whatever Farage would say next. Only he also realised that if you just promise people stuff with no basis in fact, people will actually believe you if they are desperate enough.
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