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Greyarc posted:I'm staying out of the censorship debate and request others either keep the subject casual, respectful and relevant or not touch it at all. I hope I'm managing to keep it respectful. All the censorship in games fascinates me, from the outfits in Bravely Default to the "loqua" that the pirates drink in Skies of Arcadia: Legends. I feel like it gives an interesting insight into the culture of wherever the games are being censored for. Hobgoblin2099 posted:I think one of the late-game jobs got censored in regards to the female characters. It was. A very FFX belt-y looking job (think Lulu,) but a lot of the belts were missing in the original. Rangpur posted:If you absolutely must know, I'm sure there's an angry nerd on YouTube who'd be happy to relate his profanity-laced screed on the topic. Interestingly, everything I read on it was about as respectful as you can get while dealing with  and the various reasons why censorship was deemed necessary in the first place. Not that I doubt that there are a few sewage pools of discussions out there...Rangpur posted:This thread actually got me to dig out my old copy of Bravely Default to play along with the LP. Turns out it doesn't take long to catch up when you crank the battle speed all the way up, and turn off encounters whenever you get bored. Who knew? Changing jobs only when you get a new one--and only for one character--actually provides a measure of challenge even when you know the game inside out. I probably could have planned it better, but magic doesn't hold a candle to physical builds for most of the game, so I didn't mind having to basically drop entire skillsets. (A bow-wielding thief is really, really good for chapter 2 and a good chunk of chapter 3 as well.) I did the same, although I kept pretty much everything (i.e. maxed.) I tend to play for the story though, so steamrolling bosses and avoiding encounters doesn't diminish my enjoyment of the game.
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Greyarc posted:Going by her voice, Agnès has clearly started crying. Game's still playing cheery fun music. Someone being pressured into sex-related stuff they're not comfortable with! Ha ha... Rangpur posted:Ah, Florem. Quite possibly the most outrageously hosed up chapter in the game, for all sorts of reasons. Although "Agnes wore sexy clothes, and it was awesome" is pretty funny, both for the delivery and Tiz's reaction. Poor boy's so panicked at the idea it doesn't even cross his mind it was obvious bullshit to everyone. It's sort of sweet. Pity hearing Agnes so close to tears rather deflates the humor. Makes me wonder how if it was intentional--flustered Agnes and verge-of-tears Agnes sounds kinda similar. Sorry I'm a bit late for replying to this one, but: This scene read WAY differently to me when I first played it, because I had voice acting turned off. As Rangpur mentioned, I was thinking flustered Agnes. The whole scene reminded me of friends of mine who we'd occasionally tease like this because their reactions were hilarious. As such, this isn't what I was thinking of for "most uncomfortable scene in the game" - for me, at least in my memory, that title is held by another one that's coming up with one of the sidequests. Of course, recently playing through the game with voice acting changed my opinion of this scene from "hey, I can totally see this being me and friends" to "Jesus loving christ dude - you should have dialed it back about 5 minutes ago. What the hell, are you not paying attention?" I see now why everyone thought it was extra-cringey rather than the normal Ringabel-ness. Omobono posted:Incidentally, in a game where two party members are called "this warrior" and "idealist" I feel fairly safe saying that the guy called "alternate" is somebody's alternate. Speaking of puns... Victor and Victoria have punny names of course, but we lack a couple of pieces of information to figure out why they're puns. We'll have to wait to figure those out for... two more chapters, I think? We'll see when Greyarc busts out the character pages. I'm pretty sure that one specific element doesn't come up in them until later. (If you're playing along, yes - the character pages get more and more info added to them as the story progresses!)
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Omobono posted:As for puns, I'm drawing a blank on Victoria but Victor is quite the stereotypical doctor's name and the dude at least looks the part. It's their full names and some backstory that make the puns.
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May 8, 2017 00:00
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Oh, belatedly, in case you didn't notice the game's love of puns yet, the addictive hair-dye is made of "need a fix". Goddammit. I totally missed that one.  Blademaster_Aio posted:Also, again, they aged up Artemia, but come on, there is no way she's 17. She's a kid. Yeah. The main party? I'd believe an immature and/or inexperienced 19-20 across the board for them. Artemia? Not a chance she's 17, and I'd have said younger than 14.
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So, new references! We know they're the Venus sisters, Venus being the Roman goddess of women and love and all that. As for the first names... Artemia the I'm honestly not sure what the deal is with the costume, unless it's a reference to wearing a wolf pelt on your head or something and it's just too small. Except it covers the older characters in the same way.  Einheira wasn't quite as obvious to me, so I had to look it up. And then I was ashamed at myself, because I'm also quite fond of Norse mythology and I knew this one: Final Fantasy Wiki posted:Einheria's name may come from the "Einherjar". Epsilon Moonshade fucked around with this message at 05:00 on May 18, 2017 |
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May 18, 2017 01:45
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Yeah, the implication is that Artemia and Mephilia were victims of DeRosa's nonsense. Were it not for him, they probably would've been as reasonable as Einheria. This always struck me as odd, though. Is he just so deep into the red pill ( ) thing that he doesn't even acknowledge Edea's existence? Even if this is the case, doesn't Edea know (or at least know of) him? Something doesn't add up here.
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May 30, 2017 18:03
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Blue Mage is the best Job Class ever, and I will fight anyone who disagrees. Blue Mage is a great class in most games... if you have a tolerance for the grind to grab all the cool skills. If you don't, it's beyond useless.
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kvx687 posted:Victoria F. Stein and Victor S. Court, huh. Not the most subtle of references there, though admittedly that's pretty par for the course so far. Given the little breakdown she just had I'm guessing she's the monster and he's the scientist. None of it is subtle, but I do like to try to avoid spoiling 'em before they're shown. 
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Regalingualius posted:I still have no idea how the hell Zatz looks like he does, considering he's the only NPC in the game that looks like he's half-rat. It's a pun. 
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CmdrKing posted:Hell, you could readily contend that one of our newest Eternians is worse than all of those. Though DeRosa will always be a contender for Absolute Worst of course. I recall mentioning the three biggest assholes back at the start of the thread... Of course, even now, that's still getting ahead of ourselves. Epsilon Moonshade posted:
Hey, look, I found it. AND I remembered! (even if I wasn't actually the one to mention them)
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Hmmmm. I'm reminded of something that needs to be shown off. I just don't remember how soon it is. Dropping you a PM, Greyarc - just to make sure you hit it up.
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Barbarossa is the best character in this game. 
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S_o_S93 posted:I dunno, we've got Praline too... Goddamn you, I still have that loving song stuck in my head. 
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Commander Keene posted:It's also a solid damage-dealing class; IIRC, it has the highest physical attack modifier in the game and a couple of abilities that are effectively just "deal double/triple damage". The classes that do phys damage better generally do so though cherry-picking sub-commands and support abilities from other classes, or are considered better due to having better defensive options. It's the first class that can really replace Ranger as the physical damage class of choice. Pirate skills were pretty much my go-to secondary for damage-dealing classes. The various breaks complemented the beatstick, and the damage skills were a nice bonus when I needed just a little bit more output.
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Aug 8, 2017 18:52
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Profiteur, DeRosa, and Qada manage to all be horrible people who do horrible things, but it's worth noting that unlike the previous two, Qada does not have the ability to act as he pleases. And they finally introduce Team Unforgiveably Evil member #3.
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Aug 22, 2017 04:19
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Mr. Locke posted:You joke, but I'd shank this man if he were Saint Qada the Pious if it'd get my team access to that Asterisk he's holding. This pretty much describes the correct attitude towards any JRPGs ever.
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This is the best screenshot of the entire LP. ultrafilter posted:Is Praline the first minor we've killed? I guess we're branching out now. Artemia. Of course, we haven't killed Praline. Yet. 
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greyarc posted:Arca Pellar ... goddammit. All my love for the name puns, and I STILL loving MISSED THIS ONE.
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cdyoung posted:You will adore Bravely Second then. the Return Asterix quests are so punny I nearly stopped playing, And I love puns, that's how punny they are. Bravely Second was great too, although (oddly) I find it a lot less memorable than Bravely Default.
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Greyarc posted:Next: An unexpected side quest? It was Agnes in the Conservatory with the Axe! I overuse that a bit, but still.
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hey girl you up posted:It seems pretty clear to me at that point that following an LP drastically changes the nature of the consumption. For you, it was a fun murder mystery sidequest with an easily-ignored phoned-in plot. For me, it's a narrative with a weak and dissonant murder mystery. Very much this. I'm one of those people who played the game. Watching people analyze this stuff (for lack of anything better to do between updates) is interesting to me, because it's not how I typically experience RPGs. Even when I do follow them in LP (archived) format, I'm still getting the plot points in a rapid-fire manner similar to how I'd get them when playing. Following an ongoing LP, and one where I was there when it started? How novel! Ignorance is (was) bliss in this case - I was surprised by this and other plot points, if only because I didn't over-analyze things. I caught the occasional hint, and obviously knew this would be an asterisk quest because of the blue (!) bubble, but "it was the maid"? Who knew?
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:The joke doesn't stop there.
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Ahh, the Lee pun family. Bravely, Motherly, and Ideally. I'm looking forward to the next batch of puns. 
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I think these two are the longest pun payoffs in the game. Victor S. Court: Victoria's escort, of course. I mean, the story is good too, but the puns kept me chuckling.
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Regalingualius posted:That Braev Lee guy sure loves to Default a lot, huh? Hobgoblin2099 posted:That is my favorite pun in the game. I only wish there was a plot twist that he was Braev Lee Jr. so he'd also be Braev Lee (the) Second. Yup. This is the payoff on the best/worst pun in the game.
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Am I misremembering that every one of the painting stories opened up with "Lord DeRosso!"?
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Oh, this game. This next part got a little tedious, but overall I enjoyed it. I'd maxed out my party at this point (played it during a time where I had little to do other than grinding,) so like many others, I turned off encounters so I could enjoy the story. Speaking of story, I actually didn't have that much of a problem with it (other than the obvious you-know-what-I'm-talking-about-shut-up bit.) Of course, I'm not one to go and analyze a plot really deeply - I just roll with it and take what comes.
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Blademaster_Aio posted:I don’t think I ever got over the plot hole that Edea doesn’t recognise Ringabel’s face and how Alternis and Braev don’t recognise him... but whatever. Pretty much this. It's implied that he was childhood friends with Edea, he was adopted young by the Lee family, he took his armor off to spy on Caldisla at Braev's request, his crew has seen him without the armor on, the spy that let him know about the Vestal's movements in Ancheim didn't realize that it looked like his boss was traveling with the party, Alternis didn't react at all to fighting his clone in the "final" battle, etc. etc. etc. The only thing that makes it make sense is that everyone but the party already knows that Alternis has a horny clone running around the world and doesn't even think it's worthy of mention. Except for the aforementioned plot hole of Edea not recognizing him either. Everyone in the world has prospagnosia, and they can only make the connection when they're seeing them side-by-side? Hell, the only person who had a proper reaction was Ringabel himself, and he's got the excuse because he'd never seen Alternis's face before.
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Wonderslug posted:...did literally everyone just skip over these parts? Yes. Wonderslug posted:Nobody is commenting on him looking like Ringabel because they each think he has their face, including Edea. (Okay technically Tiz's entry only implies it.) Which seems like it should also be deserving of comment, but since when has "talking about things that clearly need discussion" been in any of these guys' skill set? You know how you're reading over something you think you know well enough and fill in gaps? Yeah. That's actually really interesting, because no - I never noticed that bit before, even having read the journal multiple times while playing through the game.
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Blademaster_Aio posted:??? biscuits and crazy posted:Doesn't Ringabel himself write all the journal entries though, in game? They're all written from his perspective (Just look at the bestiary entries for the Bloodrose Legion soldiers for example), so the "face identical to mine" bit is Ringabel describing it. I seem to recall entries in the journal being from different characters' viewpoints, although that may be me getting mixed up with Bravely Second. Not an edit: Okay, no, never mind. I just fired up the 3DS and flipped through my BD save, and these are character notes written by Ringabel in D's Journal. That, or people like talking about themselves in the 3rd person. Page 8 of Tiz's entry, page 12 of Agnes' entry, and page 13 of Edea's entry (YMMV, since I'm pretty sure the pages update depending on which story beats you actually get.) drat you, you almost had me fooled. Okay, it would've been cool if Ringabel was basically a face-stealing doppelganger though. Actual edit: Prav posted:what are they even gonna say? I'm pretty sure what was being implied was that Ringabel looked like the other three characters. To Edea he looked like Edea, to Tiz he looked like Tiz, etc. More edit: And what the hell, I might as well post some interesting stuff from my game while I've got it open in front of me. Final party: Edea: Templar/Spiritmaster, Two-handed axe Tiz: Templar/Dark Knight, Two-handed axe Ringabel: Monk/White Mage, bare fists Agnes: Spell Fencer/Spiritmaster, dual wielding swords - no dual wield, but I'm using Pierce M.Defense. I assume I tried it out and the pierce was worth more (on a spell fencer) than the 100 points of attack I lost from not having dual wield. Everyone level 99 with all jobs maxed. I must have been bored. But not bored enough to get all the blue magic, because gently caress blue mages.
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 for the LP.I kinda stopped posting much after I ran out of name puns to post, but I've been enjoying people's analysis and comments. For my part, I enjoyed the game - mostly because I don't usually analyze a game when I play it myself. Go with the flow, take the story points as they come, and ignore the plotholes - you don't need to be quite as annoyed that way. Still though, years after playing the game, it's neat to both see the plot laid bare in a slower format and to see other people pick apart the weird bits of it. That is an adorable fluffy little bastard.
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