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Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
the GG is the fat controller

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Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

adamantium|wang posted:

The Hun is in fine form today



Bbbut we're not racist!!!! :qq:

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
There's a thing in my university library which is like "Australia Day, what does it mean to you?" and some nerd has written "POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAD" like lol dude calm down

also there are Myrtle Park/Antifaschistische Aktion stickers popping up around Brisbane at the moment, wow.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
As soon as Sean Spicer made that dumb comment about the refugee deal, I knew it was off cause Trump reeeaaaaally hates brown people

also lol @ Turnbull hitching his wagon to a guy who literally said it was the worst conversation. hahahahhaahaha

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
REALTALK: The most amazing thing which has recently happened is that the narrative of "limp-wristed leftists" or whatever is being smashed as hard as Nazi's face and now it's all about "Left wing hate free speech :qq:" or whatever which is just loving laffo

Like if you are a nazi/fascist in Amerikkka at the moment and don't have all your nazi buds with you, you end up flat on the footpath and it's even a meme now

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

sick of Applebees posted:

Did you go to the counter rally on Sunday?
I had to work that day but I would have liked to have gone

I did not, it looks like it was a wet fart of about 20 people and it's not really presence building for them or anything. The event was in the middle of bumfuck nowhere (Logan) and there was an extremely heavy police presence because these guys are now walking punch magnets.

e: The people who'd usually counter-protest these things weren't down for it. It was a few days after the ~massive~ invasion day protests in Brisbane so it basically flew under the radar. If they try poo poo in Brisbane proper, I am sure a counter-protest will materialise

:siren:In other news:siren:

If anyone is interested, this is the counter-protest to a Anti-Choice/Anti-Abortion march which is occurring on Sat the 11th of Feb. This was previously a private event while we were doing the groundwork, but we've decided to make it public due to the large amount of support we are receiving. I am sort of shadow advising/planning because as a white guy I don't want to be taking the lead for what is essentially a women's rights thing.

While this is a counter-protest, it's going to be pretty benign because the opposition will be the usual suspects who HATE abortions and poo poo, and it's it's really crucial that we oppose this kind of poo poo because the QLD Parliament will be debating decriminalising abortion in February. Currently, the LNP are completely opposed to decriminalising abortion, so it's down to the ALP and independents in order to get this running (I think PHON are against it).

Recoome fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Feb 2, 2017

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Gorilla Salad posted:

Speaking of abortion and Trump, I had never even heard of this before, but apparently it's a thing all Republican presidents do:



Why even have a House or Senate, anymore when Trump can do all this? May as well disband them all.

Let the regional governors have direct control over their territories. Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of this battle station.

holy poo poo

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
the battle was literally last 2/3 years so now everything is just catch-up

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

norp posted:

This was never not going to blow up, when it was announced during the lame duck period was there actually anyone who thought it was going to happen? Let alone anyone in the government who knows how this poo poo works.

Edit: I'm pretty sure at least one person pointed that out in this thread at the time of the announcement, it may even have been me

i definitely said at the time that the deal wasn't happening

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
Trumbull is the guy pulling the strings

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Zenithe posted:

So there are two marks on the wall on the rental property I'm leaving and the landlord has said we have to repaint the whole room.

He can get hosed right? (qld)

My girlfriend and her idiot housemate had to fight a landlord for bond back and really it's almost been a year and the landlord has been a gigantic piece of poo poo (don't bet on getting it back)

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Konomex posted:

So long as you didn't maliciously damage the house, and whatever damage is clearly from reasonable wear and tear. They'll get that money back in the magistrates court, probably before that in mediation. I went through mediation once and the judge sat us down for a moment, flicked through the photos and charges said 'I'd expect these charges if this house had been used as a drug den, this seems entirely reasonable. Go talk amongst yourselves and sort something out or I'll be grumpy". Real estate agent was happy to take a hundred dollars.

Yeah the "damage" wasn't actually caused by my girlfriend or anything, as there are pictures which prove this. Basically the Landlord was niggling over everything to try to withhold the bond. Apparently even the rental agency was like "ughhhhh"

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
in a surprising development, the anti-abortion crowd in QLD are using "full-term abortions" as an argument against decriminalising abortion (wow)

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
this is a slight divergent thing from NARDZchat but I notice that Channel 7 went full PHON mouthpiece last night.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
Can the Fed LNP blame Labor for the conservative idiots splitting the party? I'd be interested to see how the LNP spin this

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
Channel 7 trying to capture the racist/bigoted idiot demographic, I see

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

I would blow Dane Cook posted:



Also Pauline will make the QR trains run on time :godwin:

This is how they treat traitors

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

open24hours posted:

I dunno. In other countries they have newspapers that are blatantly partisan and it kind of works. Probably need more than two newspapers per city to pull it off though.

Why do you think it works?

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
The guy was probably white, hth

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
I feel like Australia has the same problems as Germany, which is our internal security forces (a few organisations) seem to be pretty right-wing which means that the threat of right-wing/ultranationalist terrorism isn't being addressed. Germany has the BfV and basically it was an anti-communist police thing headed by actual Nazis and surprise surprise they were buddy buddy with the neo-nazi movement up to and post reunification (track record of actually funding nazis)

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Graic Gabtar posted:

Firstly, Macdonald can get hosed. I am quite happy for former PMs to get a Gold Pass. You would hope that they might have some contribution to make post office and that should be facilitated. E.g. I'm more than happy for Keating to zip all over the nation handing people's arse to themselves. Everyone else as I've said, everyone else can get hosed.

To the other point. I know politicians might trade off private sector money for power of office glory and it elevates plenty of dipshits to money they could never earn in the world. Honestly though, the money is probably not that great to incentivise more quality candidates to throw their hats into the ring treating it as a genuine job and not just as some shiny arse who can't believe their loving luck.

Source your quotes

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

This will be a good look once the sea levels rise, mista speakah

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Comstar posted:

Professor was on PM saying it's perfectly safe to live in Mt Isa so long as you clean your dust filled house better than a surgery, never ever let the kids out in the open, and make sure young kids never touch anything with their hands. Then you get lead poisoning, but it's otherwise completely safe to live there. Also everyone needs to get tested for lead levels, presumably at your own expense.

The ABC reporter for some reason kept saying it was completely safe so long as you do the right thing*. (So long as you do the right thing and behave like you're on Mars and wearing a space suit).


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* As in it was pretty clearly the intent to mean that if you get Lead Poisoning it's YOUR FAULT and nothing to do with the mining, and most definatly nothing to do with any mining companies!

I saw the ABC report on it and was like ~~~wtf~~~ this is insane

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
Honestly it's amazing that the ~right wing party~ are also splitting on ultranationalist lines, although I don't feel like it's attracting the same amount of negative press that the "left renewal" thing did

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Solemn Sloth posted:

The intolerant left unfairly portray anyone who disagrees with them as bigoted psychopaths

The only good thing about Muslims is they throw gay people off buildings


An informative dinner with the Q Society

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
I haven't seen a lot of negative press regarding Trumble's hypocritical attack, but yeah it's definitely not an amazing look.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Zenithe posted:

Apparently the Q society meeting is getting pretty heavily protested.

which is cool and good, Q society are loving ultranationalists and its telling about how it's not being publicly derided as such because ~the people are somewhat respectable~.

Also thatfatkid please fellate Putin harder (it's basically illegal to do so in Russia though :shrug:)

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
The only great thing about WA is the smell

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

NTRabbit posted:

Don't ever buy from Dominos again just fyi

http://www.theage.com.au/interactive/2017/the-dominos-effect/

A six-month investigation by Fairfax Media into Domino’s and its franchisees has uncovered widespread underpayment of wages, the deliberate underpayment of penalties using a delivery scam and the illegal sale of sponsorships of migrants for as much as $150,000.


ughhhh but we were told that it was only 7/11, and that it wasn't widespread.

are you telling me that this kind of thing is widespread????? and that an industry has problems with self-regulation?

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
Hey nerds cone to speakers corner if you are game!!

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
Haha so the anti choice peeps bussed a whole bunch of people from around the state.

QLD is the weirdest

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Anidav posted:

WA Libs have officially announced that there will be a Preference deal where the Liberals will preference One Nation in the regional seats and One nation will preference the Liberals in every other non regional seat they are contesting; pissing off the Nationals extremely.

Hahshahahaha

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Kafka Syrup posted:

How did the Counter-Rally go? The media wasn't exactly positive.

BrisGoons get yo butts to the WARC Rally and March to Decriminalise Abortion this Thursday. I'll be there in spirit.

The WARC peeps are weird because the reaaaaaallyy don't like LGBTI people and seem to have TERFs

e: the rally was great, we didn't get a lot of people but the anti-abortion march brought in people from all over QLD, so that was weird. I want to start a grassroots campaign in my area to bring people's attention to Christian Rowan's anti abortion stance

E2: the anti abortion people were extremely aggressive towards us, it was insane

Recoome fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Feb 13, 2017

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Concatenation posted:

hahahaha





what, me worry?

holy poo poo how embarrassing

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
How old was Aisha when she got married? Why is pork a sin to eat yet marrying a 6 year old girl is ok? Who killed 800 men in Medina? What's the penalty for leaving your faith? Why do gays get hung from cranes in Iran? Why can't women drive a car in Saudi? Why do CHRISTIANS get 10 years in jail for owning a bible or wearing a crucifix around their neck in Saudi Arabia? Why is there no problem with terrorism in Japan?

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
Also a cyclist got ran over by an idiot driver in Brisbane today, and it's caused loving mayhem out on the westside because Moggill Rd is literally the only road in and it occurred at a very unfortunate choke-point (one of many) where if you got stuck on it you were hosed and couldn't bypass it. Apparently the backlog was 7km+

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
I promised to write a more in-depth thing about the abortion thing in QLD but didn't have the time, please 4give me

:siren:The Curious Case of Abortion Legality in QLD:siren:

Backstory
So basically abortion is illegal in QLD, although it's not technically enforced. This creates a large amount of uncertainty for people requiring the procedure, and well as practicioners (as it's effectively extremely easy to start cracking down on abortion if a conservative enough government came to power). An independent MP (formerly Labor) has introduced a bill in order to decriminalise abortion (with caveats, still fairly restrictive), which has kickstarted the current series of events. This issue was/still is not really considered a big issue for the current state government, which is why a vast majority of Queenslanders (especially anti-abortion people, it seems) are ignorant to the legal status of abortion in QLD.

The Fight Without: Opponents of Abortion
A variety of groups (with fair overlap) are the primary opponents to the decriminalisation of abortion, inclusing the LNP, One Nation, the Catholic Church, and a variety of religiously-orientated interest groups. The arguments against abortion are couched on myth, falsehood, and theologically-driven arguments. The LNP is flat-out against decriminalising abortion (probably trying to capture the far-right voter demographic), so there's definitely mainstream opposition to abortion (although it doesn't get a lot of media-time, I suppose it's not a good public look). The leader of the Catholic Church in Brisbane has compared abortion to Nazi eugenics programs.

A Tale of Two Protests
The anti-abortion organisation "Cherish Life QLD" organised a large anti-abortion rally on Saturday the 11th of Feb, which drew a crowd of about ~400 people. There is a fair amount of consternation on the part of the anti-abortion people, as Cherish Life claim that about 4,000 people attended their rally, a claim which is dubious at best due to facebook event reach, march size, and the ability to fit the entire procession into Speaker's Corner infront of Parliament House (for reference, the largest protest in Brisbane recently was the Invasion Day march, which drew a crowd of about ~2000 people, which allows us to judge absolute size). I helped shadow organise a counter-protest which ended up getting press disproportionate to our numbers, which was about 30 people. This has led to some pretty serious accusation of fake/zionist media on the part of the anti-abortionists, but there you have it. The anti-abortion protesters where extremely aggressive and our counter-protest was harrassed about three times prior to the actual event. During the event, anti-abortionists broke police lines in order to try to reach us, so it was actually a little hectic given the number disparity.

There was a pro-abortion rally yesterday, being the 16th of Feb. This rally was organised by the Womens Abortion Rights Campaign, which is basically an organisation from the '70s who did the initial campaigning for abortion. I wasn't able to attend, but I hear they had a turnout of about 300~ people (disappointing given that support for the decriminalisation of abortion is supposed to approach 70-80%). Apparently this also drew a counter-protest, but their facebook page has taken a beating due to some extremely dedicated shitposters. I didn't see much media on it so this is pretty disappointing.

Why are we losing the fight to decriminalise abortion? Solidarity vs. Exclusionism
I'd argue that there's two primary reasons why the pro abortion rights cause is somewhat falling behind in this latest saga, one being more global than the other. Firstly, I think that apathy, ignorance, and complacency on the part of the people who support the decriminalisation of abortion is really hurting the cause. I think that the general population doesn't see people being prosecuted for having abortion means that it's not a crime, it's not really talked about openly, and therefore don't have a need to make themselves counted/heard. The flipside is that the anti-abortion crew have generated what they perceive as a real impetus for action, something which is pressing and therefore requires mobilisation. Straight up, the anti-abortion rally was better organised, had better funding, and pulled conservatives from all over QLD (who got bussed in). A lot of this is in the Trump-style derision for "mainstream media" or whatever, especially due to what they feel was unfair reporting of their rally. They are using Facebook better than the abortion rights campaigners, and it's really showing. They also have better support from standing politicians, whereas the ALP, true to form, are a gigantic sack of flour which aren't taking a hard position publicly.

The second problem is an ideological rift between the left-wing pro-abortion activists, specifically WRT LGBTQIA people. The WARC has caused a large rift in the pro-abortion movement in QLD through their (implicit) profression of Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminism, which has alienated a lot of potential people from attending/supporting the cause publicly. This reared it's head when the WARC chose not to support any counter-protest to the anti-abortion rally, citing that they did not want to incite a counter-protest to their event (they copped a lot of flak anyway, so they might as well have supported us). Pro-Choice QLD is an alternative to WARC, which are more inclusive/less TERF and comprised of younger activists, however WARC have proven to be extremely territorial regarding the plugging of events/etc so I fear the damage has been done. As a straight white guy involved in all of this, I really take a position of inclusivity and solidarity (as I am a unaffiliated socialist and antifascist) so the WARC thing really burns me because I feel like they aren't pulling their weight for the cause.

The Future
An article posted today had a good breakdown on where the State MP's stand. Currently, 14 MPs are for decriminalisation, 12 are against, and 44 did not state an opinion/undecided. We can almost safely say that the LNP/One Nation will vote against the bill, which leaves the ALP/everyone else to ensure it gets through (this could be a tough ask). I'm not sure whether this issue could be a problem for the LNP (they have not received ~any~ flak about this position), but it'd be interesting to see how the regular LNP voter feels about this (probably won't care). This could be a key moment for the ALP to take a stance and stand for something, especially since thet backflipped on the Adani coalmine, ensuring that they will cop poo poo from the Greens forever.

From the street level, this really highlights some of the problems that left-wing activism has in QLD (specifically Brisbane). Feminist-orientated events have (apparently) been quite territorial/exclusionary in the past, which has basically drained the pool of goodwill for causes such as this. This can probably be addressed through younger, more inclusive (and therefore more relevant) organisations stepping up to the plate to start providing that real solidarity that we actually need right now. A large proportion of street activists in Brisbane hail from the queer community, so implicitly/explicitly excluding them from your poo poo is the dumbest move ever and it really shows. The established "Newspaper Socialist" groups (Socialist Alternative and Socialist Alliance) don't really seem to be interested in events like this unless they are selling newspapers/pushing their brand, so they really need to gently caress off and evaluate whether they are actually a force for change or whether they are just want to be seen doing something good for the sake of brand recognition.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

open24hours posted:

I tried searching for this and I couldn't find anything, not even tweets.

What do you mean?

Also this is somewhat of an inside scoop because I was involved in it. There's probably not a lot of media but there certainly was a thing in their facebook page/messaging.

e: Like I'm not sure what you are wanting here. I don't want to provide messages due to privacy concerns (for all parties involves), but I'm close enough to the thing to be able to give an overview on what happened.

Recoome fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Feb 17, 2017

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open24hours posted:

I mean if the WARC are an anti-trans organisation I'd expect it to get some coverage? I'm sure they have some members who are, but so would most groups with a diverse membership.

I'm not sure if you are just being an obtuse idiot on purpose or whether you just aren't getting the whole "implicit" part.

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