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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Sports Argument Stadium > The Ray Parlour > English and Welsh british premier inn thread Februray17 - Wicka has aids
 
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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Hashtag Banterzone posted:

Yeah I don't get what making lots of money has to do with it and I think Terry's wrong.

But like 99% of professional athletes greatly overestimate their abilities to do other things like manage a team, run a business, run a charity, put out an album, say racist things, etc.

Edit: I'm biased but I think Terry and Lampard are likely to be pretty good managers. Both are well liked by their teammates, train really hard, read the game really well, worked under some of the best managers in the game, and both made the best of their limited athletic ability.

It's really rare for great players to become great managers though. Off the top of my head I can only think of Cruyff and Beckenbauer, and their managerial careers had more to do with being given the reins of teams that were already world beaters, and none had any kind of longevity.

Just going on Premiership winners you've got:

Fergie: Lower-league striker, flamed out spectacularly in his season at Rangers
Dalglish: drat good player, fluked to a Prem win by inheriting Shearer and Sutton at Blackburn. Okay he didn't do bad at Liverpool in the old League days but again inherited the greatest team in the world and left them as the Liverpool we know and laugh at today.
Wenger: Semi-pro for most of his career
Mourinho: Lower-league bench-warmer and school coach
Ancelotti: Not a bad player, but by no means great - an Italian Mark Noble.
Pellegrini: So crap at football he became a civil engineer.

I've always assumed that truly great players understand the game at such an innate level it's impossible for them to explain it to others. Like Pele couldn't really teach someone to play like Pele any more than I could teach someone to shitpost, it's just something that comes completely naturally, whereas a chainsmoking midfielder with legs like Gandhi would have to think really hard about every single thing he was doing on the pitch just to get a game.

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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vyelkin posted:

hmmm yeah that carlo ancelotti he was an okay player i guess



Meh, I just went on what someone told me, that he was a good player in a great team. You don't expect me to do any actual research or thinking for myself, do you?

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