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Dec 17, 2008
happy jaromir jagr's birthday everybody

https://twitter.com/NHLhistorygirl/status/831887006624018432

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Dec 17, 2008

Gunjin posted:

If Caps win two or more playoff rounds

The Caps front office is getting too self aware

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Dec 17, 2008
tbh it always seemed kind of strange to me that most coaches are paid in the range of fairly average players

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Dec 17, 2008

Zodijackylite posted:

Until this hiring, the highest paid coach other than Babcock was Dave Tippett in Arizona.

https://www.capfriendly.com/coaches

Jesus it's even worse than I thought. You'd think Barry Trotz would be worth more than $1.5 million, and Boudreau could command a salary a decent amount higher too.

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Dec 17, 2008

Turbo Jesus posted:

Since Anaheim was first on the list I couldn't but help notice Simon Despres on the list, man oh man poor guy. When the team that traded to you ends up with Ben Lovejoy and wins that trade you gotta feel bad.

It sucks for the Ducks but at least he got a decent payday before apparently having his career ended by concussions.

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Dec 17, 2008

fits posted:

corey hirsch wrote a thing about his mental health struggles

:smith:

finally got around to reading this. i don't have anything to say that hasn't been said...but wow. that was a very vivid story. they really get across the sheer bewilderment of his problem, and you can really feel the relief when he finally gets a diagnosis.

Ginette Reno posted:

JR isn't afraid to make big trades so I wouldn't be surprised. What's more questionable to me is whether the Avs would accept a trade from the Pens. Surely another team can offer better than Maatta + first or whatever.

It would own all the bones to have Duchene though. They could use him on wing this year and then let Bones go in the off season depending on what he wants and use Duchene as 3c instead. He'd be so perfect for our tard hockey skating system too.

e: Lando would be fine too but Duchene is more intriguing for me

i'd like rutherford to trade for duchene because i don't like the idea of counting on bonino magically finding his game just in time for the playoffs - being able to roll 3 scoring lines lines was so crucial for the penguins, and what team could possibly match up with 3 1st line centers (plus cullen, who's pretty much a 3C)? with that kind of center depth, plus the wingers the penguins have now, i feel like the defense almost wouldn't even matter.

granted, what the penguins could offer the avalanche for duchene that they'd actually take is a mystery, because most deals i can think of don't make sense for the avs, but apparently it's a rumor with some traction lately

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Dec 17, 2008

Aphrodite posted:

I like how it hitches right when he does it so you can't see poo poo.

Myregularface, he is not.

yeah here's a better look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqSJQKCYrYo

i admit, i have never played hockey, but i do own a pair of testicles attached to my body so i think that makes me qualified to say that was not an embellishment and was, in fact, a reasonable reaction to getting sticked in the nads

also that penguins game left me with mixed feelings. schultz and maatta are dead, geno's probably going to get suspended, and fleury was bad...but sid got 1,000 (and 1,001 and 1,002), the penguins won, and it was exciting, so yay?

Pornographic Memory fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Feb 17, 2017

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Dec 17, 2008
Penguins recalled Cameron Gaunce and Steve Oleksy. I still barely know who Gaunce is but Oleksy is a lovely punchman so all I can hope for is that if he has to get into a pointless fight he at least gets Dubinsky good.

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Dec 17, 2008

THE MACHO MAN posted:

why the poo poo did Vermette only get 10???

Actually it was appealed and reduced to 5

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Dec 17, 2008

a false posted:

ive already posted this elsewhere but i am posting it here also because it is hockey related: last night i went to rangers - islanders game with my dad and cousin and uncle and the game was good but by far the best part of the experience was when this drunk loud 30 year old behind us who kept trying to start "JT (john tavares, captain of the new york islanders) SWALLOWS" chants which no one was interested in following along with got mercilessly owned by a 12 year old islanders fan further down his row who shouted "LOOKS LIKE YOU SWALLOW A LOT OF PORK CHOPS BIG BOY *slaps stomach*" and the guy tried to come up with a good comeback and couldnt and the kid went "WHATS THE MATTER, DID YOU JUST GET OUTSMARTED BY A 12 YEAR OLD" and the guy got extremely red and mad and started cursing out the kid and the guys girlfriend told him "you're arguing with a loving child, grow up" and he protested that the kid started it and she told him she didnt want to talk to him until he stops being a loving baby and i was extremely happy to watch this mans total emasculation at the hands of a preteen

there's a lot to untangle in this story but one of my favorite parts might be that this kid probably would never come up with an insult like that if he was at a stage in life where he'd know what john tavares is supposed to be swallowing

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Dec 17, 2008

"lets see him play for a couple decades like gordie howe before we make any claims about how great gretzky is :smug:"

i kind of love reading and watching people rip on gretzky just because it sounds so out there these days

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Dec 17, 2008

hifi posted:

I think they should put an asterisk next to his records because he was playing before the salary cap era, the mass lockout era, and the butterfly goaltending era

but we can't make the nets bigger because

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Dec 17, 2008

T-Bone posted:

Anyway here's a quick and dirty team :fuckoff:

Marchand-Crosby-Bergeron
Benn-McDavid-Seguin
Tavares-Toews-Stamkos
Hall-Scheifele-Carter
Stone/MacKinnon

Keith-Doughty
Pietrangelo-Burns
Letang-Weber
Subban

Price
Holtby
Dubnyk

of course Subban won't make it

They'll leave off letang too because handedness

DJExile posted:

hot drat i'd love watching these two lines

I like JVR-Matthews-Kessel just to make Maple Leafs fans wonder what could have been

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Dec 17, 2008

Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

They've done one of these in Vegas my dude

didnt that one get flooded by grasshoppers or some poo poo

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Dec 17, 2008
The Blackhawks, Penguins, Bruins, Habs, and Jets have the most buttplug-like age distributions.

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Dec 17, 2008
+/- sucks because it might as well be specifically made to penalize players for being leaned on by their teams offensively, doubly so if they're surrounded by lovely teams. If your coach only puts you on the power play but not the penalty kill? That only hurts your +/- because you can only get minuses while you're on the power play while penalty killers can only improve their +/-. Get lots of ice time because you're good, but your team is bad? That's just more opportunities for you to get minuses from your team mates' fuckups. Since it's a counting stat you're only going to go deeper into the hole the more you play. Not to mention if your coach puts you out for empty net situations because you're their best hope for scoring goals...more minuses!

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Dec 17, 2008

Kalenn Istarion posted:

Stop injecting alternative facts into my narrative

sorry, i dont see you post enough to know if i should assume youre being ironic or not :shrug:

Teemu Pokemon posted:

Phil Kessel sucks he only has 8 hits

phil kessel legitimately checked patrik laine off a puck during 3v3 last week and i couldnt believe my eyes. it was awesome

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Dec 17, 2008

Look Around You posted:

pix or it didnt happen

i tried to find a shorter, root-announcer-less version, but this is as good as it will get - the full OT period

https://streamable.com/ydems

about 1/4 of the way in, during the sequence starting with about 3:50 left on the clock

i mean yeah it wasn't a big hit, but he battled laine off the puck and thats as good as phil kessel is going to get with this kind of thing

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Dec 17, 2008
Malkin got away with one with the Wheeler hit. Basically it comes down to the DoPS having no real fixed criteria or standards for what is or isn't suspendable or how long a suspension any infraction will get, so any given suspension is a crapshoot. It's pretty lucky that Wheeler wasn't hurt, at least. Chris Pronger probably saw Wheeler come back on the ice while Malkin was in the box and decided he put his head in the way of Malkin's elbow to draw a power play.

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Dec 17, 2008

Look Around You posted:

This reminded me that maatta got his hand messed up on a late hit in that same game and is out 4-6 weeks. Leaving us with 2 ahlers playing now from one game :/

at least maatta being on IR means cap space for the deadline

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Dec 17, 2008
The Player's Tribune has a cool article about the Hockey Night Punjabi guy.

It's pretty crazy that he wanted to become a broadcaster since he was like 4 years old and now he's living the dream having built up the Punjabi broadcast from the ground up.

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Dec 17, 2008

JoelJoel posted:

Is there any way to fix offer sheets or should they just get rid of them since we'll never see one again?

get rid of the salary cap so team owners can weaponize them in pursuit of their petty rivalries with each other a la fedorov

e: actually that wouldn't fix anything but i just wanted to mention it since the only other offer sheet everybody mentions is the also crazy weber offer sheet

Pornographic Memory fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Feb 23, 2017

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Dec 17, 2008
so i guess we'll find out the truth eventually but there's rumors that trevor daley's injury may have required season ending surgery and if that's true then i think jim rutherford should probably do whatever is necessary at the deadline to take advantage of the opportunity he has to ice a playoff team $7 million+ over the salary cap

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Dec 17, 2008

Mind_Taker posted:

I'm sure Ron Hainsey will fit in swimmingly with the Penguins up-tempo and puck-moving D.

as long as he's competent at what he does he'll probably be ok. i mean this is a team that played ben lovejoy on their second pairing for significant stretches last season and playoffs, the penguins live and die by their forwards and the d as a group just needs to be not terrible, for the most part

note: i know nothing about ron hainsey so i don't know, maybe this will actually be bad

edit:
https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/834785548854259713

:eyepop:

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Dec 17, 2008

Slappy Pappy posted:

I felt this way before they implemented them but I didn't realize the linesmen missed so many calls. Seems like more than half of the challenges are successful. Maybe we should just get rid of the linesmen and automate it all. Two less bozo's to clog up the ice.

They'd still need linesmen just because they're basically the refs' muscle.

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Dec 17, 2008
Why do hockey players fight each other so much anyway, it's only a game

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Dec 17, 2008
despite alexander ovechkin and phil kessel being two of the most beloved players in the nhl, somehow i get the feeling that if you combined them not many kids would want (or be allowed to receive) their autograph



Elite Prospects made a bunch more player mashups too, helpfully collected here.

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Dec 17, 2008

Mind_Taker posted:

Shea Weber only has 12 5v5 points on the year, which is the same number as Brooks Orpik or Andrew MacDonald. Weber has also played 200+ more minutes than both of these guys at 5v5.

Wow you nerds and your fancy stats like "time on ice" and "even strength points", let me tell you something, I once saw PK Subban try and make a cute play with the puck...and lose it! Shea Weber won't do that, and he's big and mean, too. Because a guy hitting other guys so hard it makes them scared to do stuff and they play worse is a thing that happens at the NHL level. Plus Shea Weber is a good leader guy who knows how to win, which he's done a lot of during his time in Nashville, unlike PK Subban who just did so much losing in Montreal, except when some other guy lead them to winning.

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Dec 17, 2008

Levitate posted:

it's a pretty sweet pass to be honest but he didn't "anticipate a pass for a teammate sitting on the bench" he watched Miller get on the ice and skate to a position to receive the pass.

yeah it was a good play, the description in the tweet just sucks. there's a lot of players who would probably just dump the puck in instead of holding onto it and going backwards in the neutral zone until a play presents itself

also maple leafs #51 looks like he completely zoned out and didnt consider that he should maybe defend the guy right in front of him until "OH poo poo HE HAS THE PUCK NOW"

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Dec 17, 2008
the flyers just played the canucks so pre-emptive gently caress the flyers for giving the penguins the mumps (again)

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Dec 17, 2008

Ginette Reno posted:

Schultz was on the top PP in practice and took line rushes in the top 6 so sounds like he's playing tomorrow which is good.

On the other hand Letang was practicing on the fourth pairing with Olesky, so the d tomorrow is likely this unless Tang plays:

Dumoulin-Hainsey
Cole-Schultz
Gaunce-Ruhwedel

that third pairing :negative:

in fairness this probably still only makes them equal with the flyers

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Dec 17, 2008
i hope david hakstol coaches the philadelphia flyers forever

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Dec 17, 2008

and the name of that veteran?

albert einstein

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Dec 17, 2008

Pancakes by Mail posted:

A veteran journeyman who had been part of many playoff pushes and been traded lots of times was waiting for the trade deadline to arrive.

This team had a GM that who couldn't skate backwards and was a member of the fancystats brigade. One day the GM shocked everyone by walking into the locker room, looking up and stating "Guys, if intangibles are real, I want something intangible to get in my way and stop me from walking on the logo in the middle of the floor here. I will start walking very slowly."

The GM began to take slow, deliberate steps toward the logo. When the GM was inches from the logo, the veteran got up from his seat, approached the GM and punched him in the face knocking him to the floor away from the logo, and out cold. The veteran simply went back to his seat.

The GM came to, visibly shaken and asked the veteran, “What the heck did you do that for?!”

The vet said, “Intangibles are real and grit is more important than puck possession and you never played the game you fuckin dumb nerd. Burrows is good btw”

this is good but you forgot to say that the general manager "sneered quite statistically"

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Dec 17, 2008

Loqieu posted:

Christ, didn't the first outbreak the other season take months to go away? This can easily continue into the playoffs.

https://twitter.com/BizNasty2point0/status/836392853156745216
https://twitter.com/BizNasty2point0/status/836393317310947328
https://twitter.com/BizNasty2point0/status/836394122411823105

:tinfoil:

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Dec 17, 2008

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Pens will win the cup again but it will always be with an asterisk because the western teams will have to ice AHL/Euro Import rosters

meanwhile the penguins are immune to the mumps because they all got it the last time it was going around

e: hopefully

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Dec 17, 2008

achillesforever6 posted:

It turns out we are wrong PAS, we apparently need MAF to win a consecutive cup
http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/ron-cook/2017/02/28/ron-cook-marc-andre-fleury-trade-rumors-nhl-pittsburgh-penguins/stories/201702280116
Man MAF is a nice guy and all, but what has he done to make people think like this?

Murray is closer to the league lead in sv% than he is to MAF's sv% so anybody pretending they're near equivalent goaltenders at the present time is being downright farcical. If Murray is out for any reason in the playoffs MAF is going to have to have some of the hottest goaltending of his career to come near replacing him. That's hardly "depth", that's just having a starter and a backup like any other team.

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Dec 17, 2008
is desharnais good at faceoffs? peter chiarelli seems like the kind of gm who'd go "we're getting destroyed on the dot, we need a good faceoff man at the deadline"

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