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Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
So like... all the members of the IDC are from NYC.

I sense... primary challenges.

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Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
Well, that's cause there was no Republican challenger.

But yeah, this state is full of clubs and cliques and power brokers. I don't think local politics in Buffalo is impenetrable, though. It seems less back-room deals for most things and more kinda... confusion and disarray.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
That's the craziest goddamn thing I think I've ever heard.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

get that OUT of my face posted:

:yeah:

that district leader pissed off a different important facebook friend




i'm not sure whether hamilton's "let's change the subject and talk about the good things i did" post is better than savino's "gently caress you, i'm not the problem" post but it doesn't matter, the results are the same

gently caress YOU I'M NOT THE PROBLEM was pretty amazing. This is just a pretty boiler-plate rear end cover for a politician who's starting tor realize he backed the wrong horse.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
Why is Cuomo so piss?

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Uncle Wemus posted:

How does the rest of the state view NYC

We're part of the state too. Please don't pretend we aren't.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Uncle Wemus posted:

How does the rest of the state view NYC

Also you guys are the capital of Finance, which is pretty much the most evil industry on the planet next to Diamond Mining, so don't get all morally righteous cause you can get Ethiopian takeout

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Matt Zerella posted:

:lol: upstate guy doesn't realize said bankers now live in Brooklyn.

Jesus dude if you're going to be an upstate downstate console warrior maybe get your facts straight?

Does it really matter which burough they live in? They still go and work on the street with a literal golden calf and ruin the whole world.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Matt Zerella posted:

You're not going to get an argument from me here. But it matters when people who live in Brooklyn as "anime Marxists" when that's not the case at all.

That's fair. That's fair. Where do the Anime Marxists hang out? Is it cool?

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

gobbagool posted:

Yeah the bankers that can't afford to live in the city. I live upstate but work in the city. None of this is a mystery and you edgy millennial Brooklynites are terrible bores but sure love to condescend to everyone outside of your parochial existence

Oh this explains a lot. I'd want to burn the drat place to the ground if I didn't want to live in it but had to work there, so GO there, like every day.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
Why you eatin' anything from Stewart's except the ice cream?

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

gobbagool posted:

the only thing more enjoyable than outlawing dancing is watching NYC socialists pretending that Cuomo is one of their own

What? Dude everyone hates Cuomo. Like the first post complains about him.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

I wonder if Cuomo will gently caress us on this.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

theflyingexecutive posted:

Any other year yeah he'd sell us out for a dollar slice but we could try to convince him it'll help him for 2020

Yeah, he seems to be trying to be "hip" and "with it" with his college thing, maybe he'll be open to this.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

The destruction of all strawmen has become something to see.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Two stories taking Cuomo to task for his inability to help improve Upstate.

https://twitter.com/NYHammond/status/845981420883464192

Turns out saying "we won't tax you if you go here" isn't and has never been a good strategy. Actual Investments in Actual Things, instead of bribes, would be amazing. Buffalo IS growing instead of shrinking and we are seeing re-urbanization and stuff's coming along, but I'm not surprised that trying to grease palms isn't getting very far.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

etalian posted:

Plus it helps to have local resources like a good uni since Pittsburgh has CMU.

UB is a p. serious campus in research and medicine. But that doesn't help everyone.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
gently caress all yall

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
oranje jumpthut take you down to rikuhs

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
gently caress Uber

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
The footballman who says the women are ugly is a sage and wise person and not being very rude

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

uncurable mlady posted:

I mean... isn't that most states outside of their core cities? Most of upstate seems about as bad as anywhere else in the country.

1: It's worse than average

2: There's nothing more emblematic of the failure of Dem/Libs than their absence anywhere other than NYC and how they've failed to really do anything to make most of the state much better economically.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
Kentucky is being driven into walls at high speeds, so... yeah I think that's a bit off.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
http://buffalonews.com/2017/05/04/collins-says-didnt-read-health-bill-proves/

Collins didn't even read the goddamn bill

Of course he isn't having a town hall, I'm gonna have to find out where he lives and shout things at a house

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
Paladino is genuinely insane and it's an embarrassment he's still on the podunk school board he's still on.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

get that OUT of my face posted:

ah so the buffalo school board didn't kick him off? what a worthless city

We're trying, you need a hearing to do that and that's June 22nd.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
I know you guys in the capital of finance think that Cuomo is the governor of the Rest of the State, but don't worry. He hasn't done dogshit for us either.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Ogmius815 posted:

there is this goddamn couple of white assholes with dreadlocks who panhandle at the end of my block in front of the liquor store and I'm pretty sure they have some alternative to being there but are just horrible lazy burnouts so...

cities make people more empathetic

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Is he... uh, a serious candidate for the City Council?

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
https://twitter.com/CTLizB/status/8...genumber%3D3695

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

gobbagool posted:

what should upstaters do? wait for GE and Chevy to hire in Schenectady and Tonawanda again? as long as the economic fate of upstate is dictated by the whims of the City, there won't be any big new factory built, or anything that would bring any large number of jobs in. I mean the proof is in the pudding, anywhere I travel in south and west I meet people from upstate.

Build our own drat factories as a large scale effort in creating hubs of renewable energy across the country.

More importantly, Trump said he cared about these places, that he cared about the forgotten men and women of this country. Yeah no poo poo he didn't, he's a real estate developer from new york city; but that populist message moved people. This is the clearest signal possible that he didn't.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
Look at the places that are rich and well kept.

They have power.

Look at the places that are destitute and ignored.

They do not. It's that simple.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
Parts of Buffalo are doing okay. All in all, it's doing well! If you were here years ago and someone showed you Canalside, you'd be blown the gently caress away. However, the growth has largely been focused around downtown, and it's obvious. I know that's nothing new to cities, but it's very disheartening to see so much improvement in some places and watch so many others languish.

There's been lots of rumbling but no real movement on getting rid of the dumbest goddamn ideas we ever had here, which was how we laid out roads. We had a first of its kind parkway system and we demolished it way back in the 60's.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Matt Zerella posted:

if this is the measuring stick then there are large swathes of the city that have zero power.

Yes

That's what I was gettin' at

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

godDAMNIT stop posting this

at least do the one where we miss the extra point

Korthal posted:

Buffalo built a $750m factory for Tesla to produce solar panels. The state owns the factory, but Tesla is only paying $1/year to lease it. It's widely thought that Tesla changed their mind about using the factory, as they haven't let anyone from the public inside of it since last autumn. This factory was supposed to be the crown jewel of Cuomo's START-UP NY project. I'm pretty sure everyone in Western NY has enough apathy to just not care about anything anymore.

Ha ha oh yeah. Is that solar city? It's funny how people keep watching private companies rip us off over and over and somehow the only people who make editorials talk about government waste.

Grondoth has issued a correction as of 01:51 on Jul 29, 2017

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

it's also bad because it's basically admitting that the city (and government as a whole) is unable to function in its most basic role of providing public transportation for its citizens, requiring the private sector to step in and save the day

NYC already sold out to the banks decades ago.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Matt Zerella posted:

*hypernomalisation music plays*

But a funny thing happened

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

zakharov posted:

Probably a big reason why companies aren't jumping to buy NYC station naming rights!

Yeah, not everyone is a sportscaster. You can't MAKE people say the name of your product and/or company every time they talk about a station.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
It appears it got shown up by Boston so...

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Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
Guess who sucks?

The NYPD.

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