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pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

Badger of Basra posted:

how did staten island become republican island anyway? did they used to vote for democrats and flip or is it like upstate where they've voted republican since 1860

It's a weird place, but it's pretty similar to a lot of blue-collar exurb places with a lot of Italian and Irish American catholics. Think white firefighters and cops and troops. It's generally leaned republican but racebaiting Trump was really their jam.

ex-FBI and ex-Marine Michael Grimm getting questioned about campaign finance fuckery and getting caught on camera telling the reporter he was going to break him in half and throw him off the balcony if he did that again was peak Staten Island IMO. (he eventually went to prison for tax evasion, but he's trying to make a comeback)

pangstrom has issued a correction as of 15:55 on Mar 20, 2018

# ¿ Mar 20, 2018 15:49

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# ¿ May 16, 2024 11:33

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

That was pretty forseeable.

Over Easy posted:

I've been really impressed with what Nixon is doing.

She has also been consistently speaking out against the Israeli apartheid regime for at least a decade.

I hope she leans into this one. Not just for purity politics or whatever, she's going to get bashed with it anyway so she might as well own it. It's not an opinion Serious people are supposed to have to get into the Serious places but that velvet rope has been fraying a lot over the last 10 years.

# ¿ Mar 21, 2018 02:41

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

GalacticAcid posted:

Obama did win Staten Island in 2008 and 2012 tho I believe

It was tight both times so it's not like it matters much but McCain won by ~ 4 points in 2008 and Obama won by ~2 in 2012.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_New_York,_2008
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_New_York,_2012

# ¿ Mar 22, 2018 18:02

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

Grape posted:

Yeah that sounds about right, there's places like that all around the Northeast. Places that retain a working class vibe, mixed in with some remaining feel of ethnic enclaves for Catholic white groups, that unfortunately tend very drat racist.
I'm guessing some level of inferiority complex toward the more well heeled WASPy suburbs funnels back into getting vicious on anyone they see as below them.

I'm thinking also of South Boston namely.

Yeah. Reminds me of parts of Boston and Philadelphia. I'm sure other places, too, I just don't know many other places that well.

# ¿ Mar 22, 2018 19:19

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

the nicest thing that can be said about cuomo is that he’s so spineless he will happily support whatever agenda he needs to in order to keep staying governor

This is true, with the addendum that what he'd really love is to be president.

# ¿ Mar 26, 2018 14:25

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

GalacticAcid posted:

lol suraj patel is selling 'care hard' shirts which seems like an old fyad insult or something

This one is a little city name / sports team

# ¿ Mar 29, 2018 19:17

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

This is one of those "rules" that eventually won't be a rule but even a lot of liberal NY jews are pretty hardcore anti-Iran and pro-Israel, and it can trump other issues. There's a reason New York politicians are almost always behind on those issues even as the overton window has been opening up, especially over the last ~15 years. Will be interesting to see if Cynthia Nixon leans into that.

# ¿ Mar 30, 2018 16:56

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

This whole thing is very deja-vu
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/major-unions-drop-funding-working-families-party-blog-entry-1.2604783

# ¿ Apr 13, 2018 20:28

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

notalawyer but pretty sure it won't be. Evidence seemed pretty solid last time around so this time most of what the prosecution/judge had to do was not gently caress up protocol things.

# ¿ May 12, 2018 01:27

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

Yeah. She's young and seems hot off the dynastic politician production press but I'm going to vote for her. I live in Pelham and she is tight with our local Democratic group but even here it seems nobody has much sense of her beneath the "no IDC" message / as a human being.

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# ¿ May 14, 2018 14:59

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

Sad DCCC tales, from perspective of NY-19 candidate Jeff Beals
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/jeff-beals-new-york-midterms-w520302

# ¿ May 16, 2018 14:05

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

How dare Miss Bigtime Hollywood threaten plucky 'lil Cuomo!

# ¿ Jun 3, 2018 16:04

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

Yeah I'm probably voting Tish just for "PROGRESSIVE ANTI-CUOMO BAT SIGNAL" reasons but it's hard to have a hot take about it unless you're racist or something.

edit: sorry meant Zephyr

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# ¿ Jun 5, 2018 15:24

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

That take seems almost trollishly bad.

# ¿ Jun 11, 2018 11:46

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

Badger of Basra posted:

https://twitter.com/dahvnyc/status/1006561030892326912?s=21

it�s wild to me how every nyc politician seems to care more about drivers than anyone else

It's usually a dead giveaway for what actually effects them personally.

# ¿ Jun 13, 2018 20:28

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

I see her Ocasionally, too.

# ¿ Jun 20, 2018 15:56

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

Just chiming in with Ocasio, gently caress yeah. Westchester picked Engel again, sorry.

# ¿ Jun 27, 2018 11:55

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

re: delgado

pangstrom posted:

Sad DCCC tales, from perspective of NY-19 candidate Jeff Beals
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/jeff-beals-new-york-midterms-w520302

LegionAreI posted:

I'm hoping that one of the progressive candidates gets it in this district (which is mine) because gently caress Faso right in the butt. I don't know though, there are a lot of chuds out in the boondocks of the district, and I'm not sure Kingston can carry it, especially if they start pulling out the socialist carpetbagger stuff on whoever gets the nomination. Got my fingers crossed though.

The most recent This American Life is about this
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/649/its-my-party-and-ill-try-if-i-want-to

# ¿ Jun 27, 2018 19:41

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

I gave some money to Salazar because Chapo told me to but yeah AFAICT Dilan doesn't seem that awful.

# ¿ Jul 3, 2018 16:38

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

I think the biggest thing pushing NY towards legal weed is Cuomo's desire to sap a leftist challenger but I could be wrong.

# ¿ Jul 14, 2018 02:59

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

A lot of rich absentee "investment" property owners are a factor in the empty store front thing, by most accounts. I'm sure Amazon etc. is part of the story, too.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2018 22:52

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

edit: NM!

# ¿ Sep 12, 2018 03:32

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

#26 in Pelham, Biaggi's hometown. I think Biaggi has a chance against Klein, but I'm not really sure. Even here Klein had a lot Facebook support from "prominent" people (real estate & finance folks), a lot of talk about how ACTUALLY IDC was good because <talking points>, though also a lot of those people going to bat were very-truly-concerned-about-Dems Republicans who can't vote.

# ¿ Sep 13, 2018 14:37

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Are you absolutely sure that he can't find enough baddems to get an IDC running again? I mean, I hope so, but he's a smooth operator.

Yeah, I mean who knows but I doubt it. If he tries to rebuild the old coalition it basically means he has given up on national ambitions. Which he probably should do either way but, you know, Cuomo.

# ¿ Sep 14, 2018 04:29

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

Yeah, like what are you supposed to do but try to vet the next person better. Lying about academic credentials still matters for some reason (not saying it shouldn't matter, just it seems like much more important things haven't historically mattered and even the few that did matter have kind of fallen by the wayside).

# ¿ Sep 19, 2018 14:14

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

Also, rest assured that if her star rises any further she'll get a singular "Pocahontas" style nickname from republicans, if they haven't given her one already.

# ¿ Sep 19, 2018 14:15

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Cuomo's first step is going to try to get an IDC up and running.

Honestly asking: how/where did you get this idea? Cuomo is a turd but this seems way too dumb a move for him.

Obviously the IDC made sense for him. In a divide and conquer sense. In an "I AM the party" sense (there's a reason he had no more-established primary challenger than Cynthia Nixon). And in a "NY progressives can't push me out over my skis on stuff that I think will look bad when I run for president" sense. Also, critically, most people weren't paying any attention and he could sort of get away with denying a role. But if a new one was up and running now, well that would be a serious dead albatross necklace.

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 15:55

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

Oh I'm sure it does. But I also think, as a spineless power monster, his first-principle instinct is to insist this was all according to his plan.

# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 04:45

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

Yeah basically it would become Northeast Dakota if there was a... Nyexit? It's pretty common, downstate Illinois has a similar resentment/disgust thing about Chicago, even Coloradoans have it to a lesser extent about Denver. They think all their hard earned money gets wasted by big city depravity and corruption, that's where all the liberals are etc.

# ¿ Feb 9, 2019 17:01

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

It's just a conservative politician giving a grandstanding handy to his base, probably because he can't get anything material done.

# ¿ Feb 11, 2019 17:44

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

Hey buddy you can't say that unless you live here.

# ¿ Mar 1, 2019 13:06

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

Cuddly Tumblemumps posted:

Sure do wonder why they'd wanna excise Rockland County, which has been recognized as one of the highest income counties in the US, with some towns seen as the best place to launch businesses in NY, and with like half of the land dedicated to beautiful parklands that preserve the region's historic character and natural beauty.

What a total mystery.

Sure do wonder if you live in Rockland County. What a total mystery.

# ¿ Mar 1, 2019 15:44

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

He's right. NYC's finance, real estate, universities, tech industries etc. etc. are all sham industries. The only actual commercial activity is based on the trading of rust, which is all stolen from upstate.

# ¿ Mar 22, 2019 20:20

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

Hand over the iron oxide, you upstate hicks, so I can pay for my slim fit clothes, wool scarves, and sushi dipped in komboucha.

# ¿ Mar 22, 2019 20:24

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

Right now the race-to-the-bottom, prostrate yourself to corporations (and rich transplants) is still the main policy prescription that Serious People make. But, even if that were something that was a good idea in the first place (probably not!) and/or could work across the country at the same time (duh, it can't!), I'm not sure there's any going lower than Texas (and Florida) etc. already are. The attempts to make startup incubators etc. in the smaller cities also kind of seem a bit gauzy. Universal basic income and healthcare would help. For upstate NY, bullet trains would be great but I don't know if the real estate and construction is affordable politically, even if it were affordable economically... they have to run in straighter lines to go that fast and you would have to slice through a lot of expensive land owned by connected people. It's sad, or maybe not, but to me it seems that universal healthcare / income might actually more attainable than a New York bullet train. Doesn't help that existing mass transit is so underwater. Maybe I'm wrong, though, things change.

# ¿ Mar 25, 2019 15:32

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1128979869726121985

# ¿ May 17, 2019 16:22

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

This is just an aside, I'm for single payer as issue #1 or maybe tied with climate change, but in the battle of the megacorps to gently caress and then corpsefuck patients, hospitals do kind of suck hind tit. Pharma/medical devices and insurance make money hand over fist, but most "normal" hospitals (i.e. ones that aren't pure money making ventures that only do high-profit procedures, though line is blurring) are genuinely financially strapped OR are living off weathy donors.

# ¿ Jun 14, 2019 14:33

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

Absurd Alhazred posted:

How much of that "revenue" they would "lose" is projected revenue from overcharging patients and never collecting, I wonder.

Their pricing practices and deals with insurance companies are so insanely convoluted and bills so infrequently paid in full that you'd have to ask an expert, but my wild (and intentionally mean) guess as a first approximation of this "cost" would be the money they get selling debt to collection agencies.

# ¿ Jun 14, 2019 14:54

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

Oh hell yes

https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1143719439042514944

# ¿ Jun 26, 2019 04:44

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# ¿ May 16, 2024 11:33

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

Epstein thing very good, Caban/Katz thing very bad. This has been some pangstrom analysis please don't share without crediting the source.

# ¿ Jul 8, 2019 22:00

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