- Ogmius815
- Aug 25, 2005
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Hello 96th Street my old friend...
Walking from East Harlem to the UES is loving surreal. Like, just as you pass the hospital it transitions in the course of a block from a normal city into just the most sickeningly bourgeois poo poo imaginable.
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- Ogmius815
- Aug 25, 2005
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There's a New Queens Democrats meeting happening tonight at 7 in Jackson Heights, in case anyone's interested.
I would like to hear more about political organizing events in NYC that are not likely to be mostly shrieking twenty-two year olds who just read their first Zizek book, so I appreciate this post.
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Mar 8, 2017 18:05
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- Ogmius815
- Aug 25, 2005
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there is this goddamn couple of white assholes with dreadlocks who panhandle at the end of my block in front of the liquor store and I'm pretty sure they have some alternative to being there but are just horrible lazy burnouts so...
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Jul 14, 2017 01:27
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- Ogmius815
- Aug 25, 2005
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look man if you had to walk past these people every day you would hate them too.
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Jul 14, 2017 01:49
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- Ogmius815
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cities make people more empathetic
oh stop it. I know who the real needy people in my neighborhood are. like the homeless double amputee veteran I push up the hill a all the time. These two are like, kids whose parents kicked them out who could go home if they'd just stop smoking pot in the house.
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Jul 17, 2017 13:54
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- Ogmius815
- Aug 25, 2005
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It's really shocking that no one better has come forward to challenge Cuomo and that the best we could do last time was some random law professor. Even with no history of public service, no name in politics, and no history of involvement in public administration, this person managed to get a third of the vote just by not being Andrew Cuomo. There's clearly an opportunity there and it's just withering on the vine. Machine politics is a hell of a drug I guess.
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Jul 17, 2017 19:02
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- Ogmius815
- Aug 25, 2005
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ugh
yeah, their being "pretty much all awful" is why some of The Good Ones get faced with physical violence from enlightened citizens that are lashing out at backwards evil people, since they all look the same...
try not to assume every hasidic man is a pervert, rapist or racist until he does something to you plz and plz don't try to make hasidic women uncomfortable to laugh at what prudes they must be for not wanting you to sit too close to them like creeps do. some ppl like to whisper creepy things to frum women thinking that none of them speak english and understand what sucking dick or loving might be
to say nothing of the loving chabad treatment of women, wow... but okay
a totally inaccurate and biased Hasidic Bullshit 101:
hasidim a mostly unified front for issues that impact the levels that they share, insofar as need for land/space and socioeconomic concerns as with with tax codes, social service funding (especially for special education).
that said:
skver and vizhnitz are the most 'extreme'/fundamentalist sects present in decent numbers in brooklyn (since Neturei Karta doesn't have a lot of numbers, still has a presence at anti-Zionist actions). satmar has the largest population between KJ, willi, BP.
upstate skverers set a man's house on fire for starting a prayer group at a nursing home, still within ideological lines of skver but not under the rebbe's direct control, and when he was getting his family out he got set on fire.
hasidim. loving. love. fire.
holiday with fire?! gently caress yeasss, burn everything!!!
holiday without fire? some rebbe at one point surely set something on fire for celebration so let's do that too! !! !
but, the kicker is:
sectarian affiliation means very little for individual behaviors unless you've got a hardcore ideologue on your hands.
our example Everyman Hasid will daven (pray) at a shul (synagogue) of one affiliation while their sons go to a secondary school of another affiliation and their daughters go to an unaffiliated secondary school and their wife sits on a parenting board affiliated with yet another sect but the Everyman still wears a hat that is associated with the rabbinical dynasty that he grew up being educated with/his (grand)father's sect so if anything the gang colors of sectarian affiliation are a better indicator of ethnic identity until further details are found out from the individuals.
but, bloc voting affiliation is determined, generally, by hat. 
neturei karta wear the same hats as some Satmar, but Upstate and Downstate Satmar wear different hats and have similar voting patterns due to the socioeconomic concerns of their communities, which drives taking land from surrounding communities in Bed-Stuy or in Orange/Rockland counties and rezoning land to enable building huge, ugly houses and educational complexes if they cannot take over buildings left by the former residents of the area.
belz and bobov (very, very large sects in boro park, with some representation in williamsburg) wear the same hats and can be told apart by whether the man is wearing a certain type of belt on weekdays.
there are a lot of lil podunk backwater chassidic sects that people simply assume are parts of larger ones because of the hats that the men wear.
chabad-lubavitch wear hats nothing like other hasidic sects because Chabad are essentially no longer hasidic, so much as a hasidic-derived religious community with a variety of internal sectarian divides with deepening differences, ripe for a schism or two. their Russian/Litvak origin always had them ethnically outside the bounds of normal/general hasidic communities.
also, their food simply sucks and they drink too much.
chabad are worse than other hasidim when it comes to education for their children, following the death of their Rebbe a few decades ago, with zero English education whereas yiddish-speaking hasidim will have English education prior to bar mitzvah age for the boys and longer for girls, but because there are Chabad Houses as a presence on college campuses Chabad-Lubavitch is seen as more modern and assumed to be better about education, child abuse, sexual abuse, tax fraud, social service fraud, racism (unless you know about those Crown Heights riots), and everything that outsiders generally only associate with hasidim that have long, curled sidelocks/payos.
another shity thing: Chabad also do not hold by religious law that allows people to push strollers on the sabbath and holidays, using what's called an eruv (that wire or string thing sometimes gets writen about outside of jewish communities when people complain about real estate costs). not holding by an eruv leaves their women housebound for all significant religious and social gatherings but they're women so what does chabad care when it should just be a bunch of sloppy dressed men getting drunk to celebrate The Rebbe.
lubavitchers actively vandalize the structures of other Jewish sects or communities when they are in conflict with Chabad ideology, all while presenting a happy-go-lucky "chassidus means bringing joy and light to the world !!!" public image. sometimes they hire goyim to do the vandalizing for them
satmar and lubavitch used to get into huge streetfights with each other, with dozens of men just marching to each other's hoods to start poo poo. we can only hope that such good days can come again to brooklyn!!
chabad are seen as modern because they use Instagram and are those fuckers standing around asking, "excuse me, sir, are you Jewish?", as part of their evangelical outreach programs that aim to get every Jew on board with their specific, niche ideology in order to bring about the Messianic Age (which is what those yellow flags represent). if you are a woman that responds to that kind of thing they'll offer you shabbos candles and recipes to bake bread for your husband, like a good lil wifey!!  if your gender is ambiguous and they think you are a man they will let you wrap tefillin but if they find our you "should be" a woman they will be very upset because you should be making bread and babies
in politics Chabad-Lubavitch throws money and marketing efforts into political things with the same semi lowkey sneakiness as the Mormon Church (with whom they share many commonalities, as stated with that evangelical outreach and smiley sunshine misogyny routine).
while Satmar may be much more boorish and look more alien (especially when they sexually harassing you), they want to be left the gently caress alone to LARP their fantasy version of 17th century Eastern Europe complete with wife beating and hiring exorcists through advertisements in yiddish language newspapers, where as Chabad-Lubavitch's Mendy, Menachem and Mendy want to lead you to believe that their LARP of 17th century fantasy values is somehow compatible with modern life while taking your money until they exclude you for not stepping up to their level of observance or deviating from it once you've been suckered into it. they believe, moreso that other hasidim, that the rebbe's predecessors and The Rebbe, represent the One True Judaism and that their culture is the one true way to be jewish
tl;dr = it's chabad are the truly worst but they have better marketing and act like they don't hate you, while other hasidim don't bother with pretense
satmar have done worse for the image and relationship people have w jews in NY because of things like B&H camera's racism and satmar real estate deals and satmar men beating up gay black men and leaving them blind in one eye, while on a national and global level chabad-lubavitch is far worse poo poo
Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner are kinda affiliated with Chabad, while there are conspiracy theories (okay... stories) about how Hillary Clinton was loving some rebbe upstate because she was friendly with upstate hasidim while campaigning on state levels and then again while trying to be president.
so, may that hopefully illustrate who the real problem is
yeah, basically this, plz
yeah, this is going to get lovely. was hoping he'd have more class than this. 
Agudath Israel of America has been allying with the Boyscouts of America and the Roman Catholic church to block the Child Victims Act.
sunday there is going to be a protest outside of the Novominsker Yeshiva in boro park, organized by an advovacy group called ZAAKAH. it is on FB
there are hasidic, yeshivish, and just-plain-orthodox jews that are protesting the sex abuse coverups within haredi communities (aka ultra-orthodox, the umbrella term that covers hasidic and yeshivish communities).
at the last protest a man came out to yell at the protestors and told women that they were behaving immodestly by protesting and would die within a couple of years because of such behavior...
yes, a female puppet is a great stride forward for frum women! !!
the recent rally was aimed to protest military drafts in israel that impact haredi communities (not solely Satmar), but yes, they are religious antizionists. before the rally there were trucks circling in boro bark (and i assume Williamsburg/Bed-Stuy and maybe Flatbush/midwood) announcing the rally to community members that do not follow either Satmar Twitter accounts or any of the mass-mailers, shul postings, or word of mouth about such big rallies.
hasidic groups also sometimes rent out Barclay's and CITI Field for anti-internet/anti-smartphone rallies
fyi, the location for KJ was chosen by the OG satmar rebbe, yoel teitelbaum, before his death. ahron and zalman just drew party lines that included different areas. boro park satmar are seen as less frum than williamsburg and satmar in kiryas joel/yoel are another issue, despite who they affiliate with or in spite of maybe
satmar also had the issue with women driving a few years back. williamsburg, of course. so boro park may be a little like jewish Turkey under Erdogan and the more modern young communtiies are the kurds (if the kurds could mvoe to staten island or NJ to get away from bullshit...), williamsburg wants to be saudi arabia but they;re more like UAE with their realty obsession and exploitation of foreign labor to build tacky things with no building safety standards
soon one boro park rabbi is moving, with a lot of his followers, to a small town in NJ where there is an orthodox but not hasidic community already. the jews already there are pretty upset that hasidim are moving in becuse people already there moved to NJ to get away from hasidic politics, drama and problems. the already there jews are too upset to realize that a lot of the hasidim are moving because they are sick of the same poo poo, but they all look the same so...
hth
I think you might be the worst writer on the Internet. I am impressed.
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Jul 23, 2017 02:48
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- Ogmius815
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Turnstile jumpers should be punished though. why should they just get away with not paying the fare?
edit: oh they're just getting a fine in Manhattan now and not being arrested; jumpers aren't getting away with poo poo they're paying fines. that makes sense. never mind.
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Aug 13, 2017 23:10
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- Ogmius815
- Aug 25, 2005
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yeah more factionalism and infighting is definitely what the American left needs for sure
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Sep 2, 2017 20:43
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- Ogmius815
- Aug 25, 2005
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why do self described socialists support a dumb idea? hmm I just don't know...
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Nov 1, 2017 05:46
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- Ogmius815
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The status quo reigns supreme. Things cant get better, so it makes no sense to risk anything.
I disagree of course, but I feel like that is the position being argued.
well you're really dumb then. it doesn't follow from "the status-quo is bad" that "we should take any risk to improve the status quo".
Everything in life is a cost benefit analysis. you weigh the risks against the expected rewards. when you consider the risks of a constitutional convention (loving over unions, education, God only knows what else) it turns out that they are much, much more likely outcomes than the thing progressives who support the convention want to do. most progressives want to unfuck Albany by changing he senate, but most delegates will be elected from senate districts and the at-large delegates may well be in violation of federal law. Reasonable people look at the situation and conclude that the risks are too great to justify the slim chance of fixing the senate.
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Nov 4, 2017 14:03
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- Ogmius815
- Aug 25, 2005
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lol violation of federal law, get the gently caress out of here.
no for real. I don't think we can elect the at-large delegates as is.
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Nov 4, 2017 19:47
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- Ogmius815
- Aug 25, 2005
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As far as the at-large delegates being illegal that might be bullshit. Someone who I know knows about election law told me that but I can't find anything else that supports it. I didn't look that hard though.
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Nov 5, 2017 05:33
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- Ogmius815
- Aug 25, 2005
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Yeah New York sucks now I sure miss the days when there were 2,000 murders a year and everything was covered in garbage. that was way better.
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Dec 10, 2017 01:23
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- Ogmius815
- Aug 25, 2005
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the mayor of the city of new york is colloquially referred to as the 2nd most powerful man in america for a long time whether or not its true
i've heard it my whole life
The phrase is "second most powerful executive" and it isn't meant to refer to the total influence the mayor has, just the relative amount of power it has in the city in comparison to what other executive offices have in their jurisdictions. Mostly the mayor is powerful because of the size and scope of the bureaucracy he leads, which rivals or surpasses most U.S. state governments.
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Dec 27, 2017 21:21
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- Ogmius815
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cuomo is transparently not caring about running the state first and foremost, and our voters are stupid enough to give him a third term
it isn't that voters are dumb, it's that the best potential primary challengers have decided to take a pass.
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Jan 22, 2018 05:38
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- Ogmius815
- Aug 25, 2005
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is he really that popular? I've never met anyone who likes him. I'm a pretty moderate democrat by the standards of this forum and even I think he's a piece of poo poo.
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Jan 22, 2018 06:20
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- Ogmius815
- Aug 25, 2005
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Hey, quick question to settle an argument: do working-class New Yorkers drive into Manhattan? Is there information about the socio-economic profile of people who do this? I've always assumed anybody who possibly could, unless they're celebrities or in finance or whatever, use the subways, buses, LIRR, etc.
I don't have any empirical data but there's so many loving cars everywhere. they can't all be rich people, right?
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Jan 22, 2018 15:25
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- Ogmius815
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CCs generally get a decent amount of students who would get into 4-year schools academically but want to save money or can't afford the full 4 years. They are generally on the edge of getting scholarships at 4-years so they don't have that option, and may not be so poor they can get Pell. They often qualified for a free ride with my school because we have specific county-based scholarships for exactly those cases, then transferred and saved a bunch of money.
With Excelsior, those students can skip a community college now because the money part is taken care of, or for the "good" students they can do what they wanted in the first place and go the full four years at their first choice state school.
I don't understand. you're upset that good students can start out where they belong now without stopping at a garbage tier school first?
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Jan 28, 2018 06:05
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- Ogmius815
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No, he's worried that community colleges, which are already tight on funds, are being stressed even more. If you think CCs are lovely garbage for people on the wrong side of the meritocratic divide, then this shouldn't worry you.
That's just another way of saying that he's concerned that NY doing more to help prospective college students make their way to the last dollar is helping financially disadvantaged but high achieving students attain their goals because that happens to be bad for his employer. I have to tell you I'm not sympathetic. He's literally regretful that the government is helping students pursue four year degrees. That's so gross.
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Jan 28, 2018 16:57
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- Ogmius815
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I guess it's just weird to frame that as a problem with excelsior rather than a problem with the SUNY system itself. But that framing is in keeping with the kind of criticism of excelsior I've heard since the beginning, which has often come pretty close to saying that excelsior is actually bad simply because it is in many ways imperfect.
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Jan 28, 2018 18:14
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This is a good post. The concern about funding is awfully valid. Imagine if Excelsior only funded people to go to private universities. We'd have the same problem, shifted up a run on the meritocracy ladder.
Also, lol at tons of people getting super defensive about CC when no one was even talking poo poo.
E: But also, more CC dorm stories please!!!!!
in fairness I did call them "garbage tier". that was wrong of me, community colleges are wonderful institutions that provide access to education to many people. there should be more of them and they should have more money.
if it isn't clear from my posting, I often say dumb poo poo that I have not thought through because I am bad.
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Jan 31, 2018 23:38
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I mean to be fair it really seems like this guy agreed to take the job and then flaked out.
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what would it take to fix the stupid party registration deadlines? Just the legislature not being poo poo?
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