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BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Grognan posted:

You wanna do something, do it. Better than circle-jerking about how nuking the 1st amendment would do anything but make things worse.

I never said abolish the first amendment, refrain from putting words in my mouth while you're tut tutting about those meanies who want to start poo poo with the people chanting blood and soil

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BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Just because you have the legal right to say something doesn't mean you shouldn't run a quick "will this get me punched " check before you say it

And if you then proceed to chant "blood and soil" or "Jews will not replace us" clearly you've decided it's worth getting clocked in the head

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Slamhound posted:

If Iraq is an example of both-sides sectarian warfare, North Korea is an example of a one-sided war.

If you don't want political violence, take it up with the Nazis who are literally murdering non-violent protesters.

While cops watch, no less

At a protest here in June the cops were palling around with the right wing assholes and never took their eyes off us, but the state totally hasn't taken a side here

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Byolante posted:

The problem with your position is that there is plenty of evidence that you will get clocked by an antifa for looking like a nazi or being in the wrong place at the wrong time if they think nazis might be in the vicinity.

The problem with yours is that the other side is still the very least calling for violence and at worst engaging in horrible acts of it and you want everyone to sit on their hands and wait it out

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

You know the Labor and the Civil Rights movements got their members punched too.

makes u think.

oh word you mean oppressors have no problem using violence to maintain their power and its only when people want to swing back that libs freak out? no poo poo?

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

This is what it's really about. The neo-Nazi organizers at Charlottesville loved it when they had the numbers during the tiki torch rally. The next day when they met serious opposition, the thing blew up.

You disrupt the rallies before it gets to that point, since sectarian warfare is what Nazis want. I'm not talking about killing anybody. Just make it impossible for a large neo-Nazi rally to happen without a state of emergency being declared. Make it impossible to rally openly without a conflict; a form of sabotage. The alt-right has descended into infighting since Charlottesville imploded in their face, which is a good thing.

I agree. Which is why you do both, and I'd encourage people to get involved in local organizations like DSA and others.

realtalk i'm organizing a coalition between my local antifa crew/the broader alliance and some other local orgs so that we can present a united front against the shitheads on all battlegrounds, physical and otherwise

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
and by i'm organizing i mean i'm helping coordinate between the international socialist organization and my crew because some of my dudes can be a little hardline and reactive and i love them dearly but we gotta play the long game here y'all

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
i know they said nonviolent in their statement of intent guys. i know they did. iso organizes protests under the assumption and hope they will not be violent. this does not preclude us from defending people and i know the iso folks will back us up if it comes to that because, at the very least, it means we're taking punches for them, also because one of them told me this when i raised the issue before most of you even saw the statement. jesus y'all.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Yeah I think that's a good strategy and I agree, you don't want to be reactive to everything the Nazis do. People should be building a mass popular movement that is rooted locally.

mostly its my people being dudes who dont have a ton of long term thinking and as much as i lust for nazi death im also willing to play out the long game and let us get carried a little bit to help our image/rep both in the local Scene and in the general community

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
the rorschach speech about people saying save me but at the end he says "optics"

Byolante posted:

I don't think blurring the lines between violence in the streets and populist societal movements will encourage people who aren't affiliated to either side to join up with yours. The way to win back a socialist country is to engage the people who rightly believe neither side give a poo poo about them and are hurting the country.

lmao at all of this jfc

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
literally the "we're only nazis because you were intolerant of their intolerance" argument, you fuckin moron

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

I don't accept it at all, never have, never will.

well poo poo i guess cops dont get away with murder then

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Byolante posted:

No you are absolutely right. Politically disengaged non-voters who think all politicians and politics exist to gently caress them over will see wanton political violence and think 'now is the time for me to get engaged!'. DSA does fantastic work engaging people with community building events. That's where people's focus should be because that's how you convince people 'hey these socialists are actually cool dudes who care about me and my family'.

homie you were literally making the argument that pepe shitheads make

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

Are you and your crew going to "bash" them?

so cops dont literally get away with murder in this country?

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Grognan posted:

jesus loving making another antifa jerkoff power fantasy thread so you can do that instead of trying to invent nazis for your orgasm.

im not inventing poo poo, im saying that one guy is making the same argument shitheads make about why they became nazis and another guy is going "well i dont accept police violence" like that negates the point that it is in fact broadly accepted in america

make a thread about you crawling into a sewer and sealing yourself in, and then do it

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Tokamak posted:

Byolante caught a real nasty case of Cleggmania and still hasn't recovered.

the only kleggs i know are

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Slamhound posted:

Do pacifists ever plead with the Nazis, Alt-Right, or police to be non-violent?

its not pacifists who are pleading for everyone to not fight, pacifists just

don't fight

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Grognan posted:

If you are making arguments about what is broadly accepted in america , I dub thee shitiafa because broad-scale american arguements are poo poo and you are piddling your pudding because you need this moral validation and by god any points will not get through to me because the enemy is nazis so I don't have to do it

you're just a pissy little baby who needs a new diaper and a nap. goo goo ga ga

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

They do, but they shouldn't.

congrats you finally understood the point the other dude was making to start with. holy poo poo it only took like five terrible posts. fuckin hell

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Slamhound posted:

True. I meant the scolding anti-antifascist parsons.

then the answer is no

its the they go low we go high poo poo

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Baron Porkface posted:

Why is it that that antifascists never bring guns to their allegedly glorious battles?

because the cops are not on their side and its a good way to get shot, generally

some do! john brown militia/gun club/what have you is a thing

by and large tho its because cops will not side with antifa and will gun them the gently caress down

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Grognan posted:

because none of the antifa have ante'ed up and they will poo poo talk tremendously instead of doing a drat thing

john brown militia

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
also lets giggle hard at the idea that like threepers are paragons of Doing poo poo

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
https://twitter.com/ciccmaher/status/900505167581388800

Jbgc in their name stands for John Brown Gun Club, which is what leftist militias say in states where militia is a bad word

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Baron Porkface posted:

get more people with guns dumbass

This will convince trigger happy enforcers of the status quo to not shoot them

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Al! posted:

why doesnt antifa get more blogs?????

Haven't gotten my Soros check yet

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Grognan posted:

welp guess you got me, if someone actually wants to start an armed revolution I am sure as poo poo going to want to avoid grade-school errors. Much less if someone is trying to incriminate in a useless loving protest.

Lemme just involve the rest of my release valve organization that is tracked to the degree that even the local leftists know not to go with them.

I have literally no idea what you're talking about but neither do you

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Slamhound posted:

Here are 20 posts about why your stupid club for jerks is irrelevant.

Also punching Nazis is now armed revolution.

Suit up.

To be fair I did just post antifa with guns

After he said why don't antifa carry guns

And before he said well it's stupid for them to carry guns

Almost like he's a fuckin shithead

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

the claim that cops didn't touch the three percenters because they're so well armed is a lie btw

Yeah the real reason is they're on the same side

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Unironically tear down statues of Columbus tho

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Replace statues of Columbus with James Gandolfini

Paul Giamatti actually

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Statues to our nation's truest hero

Richard Garfield creator of Magic tr Gathering

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

steinrokkan posted:

Jim Davis, creator of Garfield the Cat

Garfield

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Garfield as portrayed in Lasagna Cat

Actually I changed my mind just tape that picture of your fat head to every Columbus statue

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Oh no a symbol of unnecessary luxury was destroyed call in the national guard

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Well, all the odds were against Connor and he expectedly lost. So it's weird that, say, Richard Spencer would claim Connor as a white man now after he lost.

Be weirder if he claimed Mayweather as a champion of the white race imo

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

My sense of it is that they're trying to paint MMA as a more intellectual pursuit that white men like McGregor can excel in, while a straightforward highly regulated sport like boxing favors the naturally athletic negroid. But maybe I'm overthinking it.

I think it's more that mma is a sport where the kind of weirdos who would listen to Spencer thrive just by happenstance so he's trying to appeal to them and get some kind of support

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

To be fair to MMA, it's a sport for all politics, not just Nazis.

Sure but I think Nazis and the sort of people predisposed to being recruited by them are there in amounts you don't see elsewhere

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Byolante posted:

A poor immigrant can't afford to feed or house his family, another victory for socialism!

Truly we cannot express rage at capitalism because we all engage with it, also I, forums poster byolante, am a huge gay baby moron with poop in my pants

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BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Those who live servicing the rich will be considered compradors.

*Nods communistly*

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