call to action posted:

I have to say, it's a bit gratifying to see all the "Bernie supporters are racist" thing turn out to be 110% projection on behalf of Clinton and her supporters

Agean90 posted:

there's also the fact that no state is inherently conservative. yeah the South definitely has some inertia working against it but if the dems hadn't neglected it for decades they'd at least be able to compete

Fallen Hamprince posted:

Dapper_Swindler posted:

yeah. pretty much. though honestly/sadley, GoT strikes me a more politically realistic then the west wing and poo poo like that.

super sweet best pal posted:

Ultimate Spider-Man did the right thing by making a new character to take up the mantle instead of changing the background of an existing one.

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

Also don't dox people, thanks!

FuzzySkinner posted:

I think at times there quest to do these sorts of things feels forced and hamfisted

Lady Ghostbusters comes to mind. It seemed at times it was more about some sort of "WOMEN CAN BE FUNNY AND HEROES TOO YA'LL" when both of those facts have been true for DECADES. Lucille Ball, Joan Rivers, Carol Burnett, Jane Curtain, Betty White, Cloris Leachman, and Roseanne Barr kicked some serious rear end. Sigourney Weaver, Linda Hamilton and Uma Thurman are also in this convo for women who kick rear end, take names in action flicks.

Hell I thought Charlize Theron in Mad Max was fantastic in terms of recent examples. Some idiots got up in arms over the messages, but all I saw was poo poo getting blowed up nice and good.

At times it feels like this sort of thing is actually insulting to the women I listed above because it feels like their accomplishments are swept under the rug in favor of Wonder Woman, Harry Potter, or whatever the gently caress stupid meme these idiots like.

Guy Goodbody posted:

Dapper_Swindler posted:

jesus. i would take pence over trump because pence is known evil(standard awful GOP poo poo mixed with moral majority dickheadness) and he wouldnt be able to unite the party for healthcare or tax poo poo. he would probaly try to gently caress over gays and go after the "morally decadent/sinful media.

this woman is fucktard though. he is not better by any means.

FuzzySkinner posted:

https://apnews.com/a29855adf6f248e0a5207ffd1e981855?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

Hey check it out. Someone who you can use to hit the republicans over the head with. This is a loving joke that this is happening in the richest goddamn country on the face of the earth.

FuzzySkinner posted:

https://twitter.com/RollingStone/status/890181187674746880

HIJK posted:

Remember when people didn't bitch incessently about movies and tv

Byolante posted:

I'm the guy who thinks handing out weapons to crime gangs to act as extralegal security forces for a regime is totes cool and good.

Badger of Basra posted:

but they wear red shirts so they must be good

MaxxBot posted:

Yeah that's why I view this is one of my top issues and I'll even praise people like Cory Booker and Rand Paul because they're some of the few who seem to give this issue sufficient attention.

comedyblissoption posted:

you can agree w/ some of the things rand paul says without agreeing with everything he says

really queer Christmas posted:

I was obviously joking and do agree it's bad. But I would at least rather simple patrol dudes to not have a handgun and only have a long arm in the car to at least make sure only veterans having 24/7 access to a gun. This may not be feasible everywhere and every city, but it would at least drop some civilian casualties and force an officer to think about pulling the weapon out.

really queer Christmas posted:

I mean, in a better world the experienced cops would be more trained and aware of situations of when their guns would be needed and when to keep them holstered or unused. That may not be true in this world though.

FuzzySkinner posted:

https://twitter.com/chelseahandler/status/894384283229364224

I agree Chelsea. That's why I think it's time you stop using a hispanic-american actor with dwarfism as comic relief.

hypocritical piece of poo poo.

Jeb! Repetition posted:

I disagree, because we're the land of the free and not an authoritarian heap like Germany.

Jeb! Repetition posted:

Yeah. We have better-protected speech than Germany does. The tweet even gave an example of it.

lohli posted:

The point is that he might not have actually been an attempted spree killer, he might have just freaked out when someone hit his car with a bat and thought he was about to get jumped by the many people there also with bats. Not that he was there with good intentions or that I condone being a white supremacist, but he may have been there to scope poo poo out to see what they were up against after the shenanigans from the night before and reacted out of fear.

And with that in mind, I wonder whether or not this guy feels responsible for poo poo at all:

Call Me Charlie posted:

Remove Unite The Right or Nazis from the conversation.

[x group] had their permits revoked by [government] over [idea/position] while allowing the permits they granted for [y counter group] to stay in place.

Why shouldn't the ACLU defend [x group] in court?

You seem to believe that the denial of rights is cool as long as it's against a group you oppose but that isn't the way rights work. They're absolute.

quote:

Then there’s the back-up attack on the ACLU: OK, fine, I’m for free speech, even of Milo and Nazis, but why don’t they spend their resources defending free speech rights for good people rather than white supremacists? Nobody is forcing them to take these cases. As a recent Vox article on the ACLU debate put it: “Some question whether the organization should be using its resources to defend such awful groups of people. It’s one thing in theory to support universal free speech rights, but it’s another to actually spend time and money defending neo-Nazis.” This was one of the arguments made by ACLU lawyer Chase Strangio in objecting to the group’s decision to defend Yiannopoulous.
Notably, this was the same argument made by right-wing neocon activists to attack the Obama DOJ lawyers for defending Al Qaeda members: Yes, fine, everyone deserves a defense, but why did they choose to represent Al Qaeda? As National Review’s Andrew McCarthy put it in attacking those lawyers: “The salient issue in the controversy over Justice Department attorneys who formerly represented our terrorist enemies detained at Guantánamo Bay is this: They were volunteers.”

quote:

“It is the responsibility of law enforcement to ensure safety of both protesters and counter-protesters. The policing on Saturday was not effective in preventing violence. I was there and brought concerns directly to the secretary of public safety and the head of the Virginia State Police about the way that the barricades in the park limiting access by the arriving demonstrators and the lack of any physical separation of the protesters and counter-protesters on the street were contributing to the potential of violence. They did not respond. In fact, law enforcement was standing passively by, seeming to be waiting for violence to take place, so that they would have grounds to declare an emergency, declare an ‘unlawful assembly’ and clear the area.

Byolante posted:

Somehow the people wanting to strip people's right to freedom of expression and to use violence to enforce a political orthodoxy are the anti-fascists.

Call Me Charlie posted:

I know you're super outraged (and, by extension, blind stupid) right now but that quote you posted was condemning the government/police for not having the proper infrastructure in place to protect everybody and for trying to take short cuts to cut short an event they didn't want to take place in the first place.

FuzzySkinner posted:

It's really weird. My anger has mainly been towards Centrist Dems leading to this moment, not so much the Republicans that have taken advantage of the aforementioned being complete poo poo.

Byolante posted:

Discouraging open and free violence in the streets is now a sign of being a nazi sympathiser. The situation we are in now is exactly what the nazis were hoping for because for the average person in the street its two packs of violent thugs attacking each other and anybody else who gets in the way. Fox news is running footage of some masked antifa attacking some stupid old lady with a flag and dragging her along the ground for 20 odd meters. She was probably there to shout about how minorities are a problem and should be shot or deported but you don't see that in the clip. Its normalising violence so that when Trump says both sides are at fault a lot of people think yeah black block and nazis were fighting each other and innocent bystanders got caught in the crossfire.

Its too late to hope for decorum now because its already at the point of people willing to kill each other. Probably the best thing that can be done is for black block to form lines outside soft targets like synagogues or black churches and prevent the far-right from approaching. Taking the fight to what started as a legitimate, 1st amendment protected rally and causing city wide bedlam will only make things worse.