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To the US mil posters: I've been lurking a lot here, and it's really incredible how much the US military lower ranks resemble a BDSM game focused mainly on cigarette butts and facial hair. Also, wasting money. If you were the SecDef, or whoever has the real pull in these matters, what would you do to reform the military? Where would you start, and to what end( Making soldiers lives easier? Increase efficiency? Screw with people who deserve it)?
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Mr. Nice! posted:The marines are redundant. Honestly the only reason they exist today is the american populace loves marines. There's no reason to have them in a modern context, because we do not need special soldiers that are used to sailing ships and boarding other ones to kill pirates and other country marines. Because it would help remove competition between branches?
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Feb 9, 2017 14:40
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Mr. Nice! posted:Its not about competition. It's excessive redundancy with massive overlap in jobs. Oh, okay. I actually heard some people make the argument that competition between the branches is healthy, but even a cursory examination of military history seems to poke holes in that( all the militaries in WW2 largely fell victim to this, as I understand it). Very interesting stuff. Wouldn't singing, cleaning, yard work and other chores normally be considered a good tool for building discipline?
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Feb 9, 2017 15:34
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The Rat posted:Yeah, seeing families crying because they were on the wrong side of a Sunni/Shia drive by shooting and their dad/brother/etc just died was way worse than just bad guys dying. The 'bad guy' thing stands out. Did you think the opposing forces were bad guys because of a belief in the mission, or was it just doing your job and getting back at the people who shot at your side? What ratio of genuine enthusiasm for winning the war to conditioning/protecting your buddies( or all three) did those of you who were deployed have?
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Feb 12, 2017 19:24
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Pesticide20 posted:Getting into the morality of armed conflict is tedious and annoying. Everybody knows that the USA is on God's side, anyway I don't think I was  I hang out a lot in the milhist thread, and my experience at my history courses has been that soldiers in the past used to get a lot more worked up over the political arguments for war( militarized societies and their indoctrination helped a lot with this), but nowadays there seems to be some ridicule towards people who really believe in their mission. I was just curious what your personal experiences are, and to what degree it depends on the individual mission.
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Feb 13, 2017 14:00
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The frequency of fuel dumping sounds insane. Has anyone in the military calculated the eventual environmental consequence of navy/af ops? poo poo, if nothing else you can't recruit more military from a nation of malnourished stunties.
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Feb 15, 2017 08:51
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Godholio posted:had a guy on a no-alcohol order leave town, get hammered and hailed a cab with his loving face (not allowed to reenlist) Why are no-alcohol orders even a thing? I mean, it's 2017, we know alcoholism is a disease, if a person starts drinking to excess and clearly doesn't understand why they are not able to stop, no amount of orders will help, because they're trying to satisfy an urge beyond their conscious control. What do the marines( or all of the US branches) do if they suspect they're dealing with an alcoholic? I'd have just discharged them immediately or mandated AA, no amount of discipline or hazing will help anyway.
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Mar 15, 2017 11:27
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Mike-o posted:Most of the military are alcoholics. I doubt that, at least if we go by the terminology that separates between alcoholic and problem drinker. An alcoholic has a physical allergy that means that every time they take one drink, their body will immediately and violently crave more drinks until they lose consciousness, and if put under pressure, they will seek out alcohol to relieve the stress. They rarely keep high-risk, high responsibility jobs for long. A problem drinker, sometimes called(erroneously imho) a functioning alcoholic, will drink way too much at all hours, but will put off the job/life-destroying benders till they have free time to waste. E: though I will agree that armed forces everywhere has high numbers of real alcoholics, simply because they take in people young who have yet to hit their bottom and realize their problem.
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Mar 15, 2017 13:08
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M_Gargantua posted:You're describing the alcoholism that gets people killed. Most of the military falls in to the legal definition of "Mild Alcohol Use Disorder." Everyone I knew were very functional drunks. Allright, cool. English isn't my first language, so maybe the terminology is off. E: Does any U.S.AF material stand out to you as particularly good? Is there a car, gun, tank, plane etc. you'd vote to keep if you were in charge of procurement?
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