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What was the lowest point of the Simpson
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bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




unpleasantly turgid posted:

any episode that focuses on an extra always feels lovely. gently caress lenny, gently caress moe, gently caress carl, gently caress barney, gently caress millhouse, gently caress luanne, gently caress Kurt, gently caress em all. I want Bart, Maggie, Lisa, Homer and Marge, MAYBE Grandpa. Ned Flanders is an exception to the rule because the episodes he plays the biggest part in are usually good due to the depth of his character. Any episode that deliberately draws up a bio by itself feels super contrived and boring.

Some of the Skinner, Krusty and Burns episodes were good.
And the one where Troy McClure marries Selma. And Apu vs the Quickemart. And Flaming Moe's, though that maybe counts as a Homer episode.

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bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Drink-Mix Man posted:

They did a number of flashbacks and such, though not as egregiously non-sequitur as Family Guy's "This is worse than the time..." stuff. For example, Homer saying "Some of the best times I've ever had were in the back seat of a car," then cutting to him eating a sandwich in the back of a car.


That's not the same thing at all. That's a simple joke with a set up in the present and a payoff in the flahsback.
Family Guy would cut to a completely unrelated re-enactment of a movie scene or Peter fighting a giant chicken for ten minutes

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




what room is homer in here?

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Untrustable posted:

The worst episode was when Kelsey grammar and David Hyde Pierce played Frasier and Niles Crane playing sideshow Bob and his brother Cecil.

Edit: Stroke of luck I ended up posting this blindly when the episode in question was being quasi-praised right above me. Episode still sucks rear end.

Go back to clown college

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




The one where Lisa thinks she's losing her intelligence but it turns out that only happens to simpson men and Bart sadly asks, 'so I'm going to end up retarded?' and Marge says yes, now go join the head-butting contest with your special needs dad

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Lazy garbage clipshows were a problem with US shows in the 80s/90s in general, not the Simpsons in particular.

The 138th Episode special is probably the only clipshow of any program of that era that was good (if it even counts when most of the content was previously unseen or on the Tracy Ulman show).

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




I caught the second half of the one where Bart thinks he got a girl pregnant and everyone else just accepts that that's what happened without being concerned for his wellbeing or questioning the physical likelihood that he could be the dad.

I'm gonna guess it was set up earlier that Bart is just really naive and didn't actually get raped.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




cool new Polack jokes posted:

I'd like to see a list of top 5 to watch/top 5 to avoid for this show to get a sense of both extremes from a variety of viewpoints
Top five:
Last exit to springfield
Cape Fear
King sized homer
Who shot mr Burns
You only move twice

Bottom five:
Lisa the Simpson
Principle and the pauper
My Sister the Sitter
The clip shows (except the 138th episode spectacular)
All of season 10


After season 10 it's probably worse but you'll stop caring about the show by then

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Are kids actually watching television these days?
My younger relatives only seem to watch youtube

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Sheriff posted:

After 60 pages, it's pretty clear that the lowest point of the Simpsons was either Lena Dunham rapes Homer, or whatever random Season 11-13 episode finally made you stop watching. So to switch it up a bit, what's the lowest point of "Golden Age" Simpsons?

Mine would probably have to be "Rosebud", which is really a testament to how great the show was, because there's still like half a dozen great jokes and my greatest criticism is that's kinda boring.

Golden age was so good that when they were forced to do a crossover episode to promote 'the Critic' it was actually good.
I wouldn't have known it was a crossover (don't think the critic aired in my country) if not for the jokes they made about lame crossovers.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Actual lowest point was probably the clip shows. Acknowledging :effort: doesn't excuse :effort:

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Comic book guy gets into alt-right memes, marches about in kekistan flag

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




the quimby piss tape is real

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




There's a porn shop near my old flat. I've no idea how it survives when the internet exists.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Milo and POTUS posted:

they sell sex toys

Sex toys are more an Ann Summers thing.
This is a skeevy looking place with blacked out windows. I expect the owner is long haired and gaunt and the porn is all VHS

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Generic Monk posted:



good...night!

In the 90s people thought Sonny Bono being a congressman was as dumb as US politics got.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Iron Crowned posted:

I think the problem with poor TV families in appropriately sized houses is it's hard to show an actual poor person house on TV without it looking like it's the lair of a serial killer, especially in multi-cam, studio audience set up.

It seems like a US cultural thing. Most UK sitcoms and soaps are about the working class or lower middle.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Springfield might just be a crappy small town where property is cheap.
The four bedroom house I lived in as a kid is worth way less than the tiny flat I live in now.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




cool new Polack jokes posted:

Thanks for reminding me, the one where they went to England sucked

"It's Tony Blair! Maybe he'll help!"

There have been worse episodes, but I can't remember any lazier ones. 20 minutes of celebrity cameos and pop culture references.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




SEX BURRITO posted:

I didn’t even get some of the jokes in that episode and I’m English. Like Bart and Lisa getting high off really sugary candy. That was so pointless.



Trainspotting reference.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Did Bart get drunk in the movie to pad the run time by 5 minutes? because there were no jokes or plot consequences.
Now I'm thinking of what a great episode the Beer Baron one was.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




The joke is he's doing a soliloquy but Homer can hear him from many streets away he then says the next line even quieter and homer can still hear him

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




The other layer of the joke is the gruff one liners being undermined by homer's childish defiance.
Homer saying d'oh would end the scene with a victory for the detective. A loss of dignity for the detective is funny because Homer has none and

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Yeah even during golden age, Mr Burns' extreme age was a recurring gag.

Lisa's saying her first word while the USSR boycotts the Olympics dates the show a little.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Grampa sold his house so Homer could buy his. Homer then shipped him off to the old folks home.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




What does Apu's accent sound like to a real Indian?
I'm Scottish and Groundskeeper Willie is just so bizarre it's like Dan Castellaneta is working off a vague description of a Scottish accent.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




God Of Paradise posted:

I think when Homer got on Toadfish's bad side was the lowest point of the Simpsons.

Lowest point of Neighbours was when Toadfish invented a popular cocktail he named the Flaming Toad

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




When I first saw the Cape Fear episode I didn't know about the films it references/parodies and it still worked great as its own story. That's how you do a reference properly - make it invisible to those who don't get it.

Few seasons later they did The Prisoner and I was like wft is this nonsense what is happening

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Iron Crowned posted:

In fairness I think that's exactly what most people thought when they watched The Prisoner

Good point.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Iron Crowned posted:

I mean the concept and resolution of that plot isn't a terrible idea on paper, especially as an overarching jab at TV standards of everything returning to the status quo, but execution is everything, and they were failing at that by then.

They'd done that gag many time by that point and even acknowledged it was old by having Principal Tamzarian walk past.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




defaultluser posted:

The entirety of Season Six sucks compete and total rear end.

Nuclear take

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




The only newish south parks I've seen were about occulus rift and internet memes. They were ok. At least as good as I remember southpark ever being.
I laughed at a cat saying "oh long johnson"

I think south park has more built-in longevity than the Simpsons because the Simpsons golden age relied on characters we cared about, but South Park's were always just props to hang jokes on.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




The already did a Lego episode and what else does anyone know about Denmark? Bacon? Carlsberg?
I tried to think of famous Danes and Sandi Toksvig was all I got.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




I was thinking more of living people for the celebrity cameos that Simpsons go to X episodes are based around

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




THE BAR posted:

Ah.

Who's Sandi Toksvig?

TV and radio lady no one outside the UK has heard of, including Danes probably.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Bust Rodd posted:

The best Disco Stu joke is always going to be “Your fish are dead.”
“I know... I can’t get them outta there.”

but special mention goes to the flashback episode where we see Disco Stu in 1979 talking about the rise of Disco and how if trends continue...

idk if :thejoke: but that's the same scene

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Nutsngum posted:

Its not like they havent dont good university jokes before either.

What about the buffoon lessons? The four years at clown college?

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Fingerless Gloves posted:

My favourite gag which has been stuck in my head lately is the 'Aaronson and Zykowski are the two biggest gossips in town', it's such a good straight up joke.

I love it when a simple subversion throws me like that.
“I’m seeing double! Four Krusties!”

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bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Riptor posted:

i mean even if you yourself are not religious is it really so weird to watch a story about an 8 year old girl worrying about morality and sort of take the hell aspect as a metaphor for the general consequences of not living what she perceives to be a moral life

or is it just beep boop i am a man from estonia or whatever and i have never seen a church somehow thus i cannot ever relate or understand this


Nobody, Lisa included, would have cared that Homer stole cable, except hell is a real place where you will go if you eat two grapes without paying. It was a bit weird to a kid from godless commieland, yeah.

Compare it to Marge be not Proud. It's a huge deal to Marge that Bart shoplifted because she's worried about what sort of person he's becoming, what sort of mother she is etc

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