Whatever happened to cheat codes? I remember flipping to the back of the Game Informer every month in case I (usually to my surprise) had a game listed. However, it seems that after the seventh generation of consoles came out, everyone just stopped caring about them. Games like Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas had replay ability mainly because of its cheats. Others allowed the game to become a sandbox game when it otherwise wasn't, or just helped you dick around. What did them in? Is it a shift in focus to online multiplayer, where fairness is supposedly king? Or was it something else?
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 03:00 |
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# ? May 6, 2024 03:23 |
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DLC happened. Why put in cheat codes when they can sell you a coin doubler or an outfit that makes you invulnerable.
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 03:22 |
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Also achievements, since you can't fairly gather all 1000 pig butts scattered throughout the city if you have a code enabling you to fly, or something
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 03:34 |
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DLC is big, but I think Achievements/Trophies is an even bigger offender. Rare, valuable, bragging points-worthy achievements/trophies can't coexist with cheat codes that would make them trivial to obtain. Gamers loved the points/reward system though, so cheat codes were phased out. In the beginning there were some games that still had cheat codes, but playing with them on disabled the ability to earn achievements/trophies, so as far as I know almost nobody bothered with them. Eventually that, on top of DLC, made it all but pointless to continue including them. That's how I see it, anyway. EDIT: Yeah, that.
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 03:38 |
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drat shame that they're dead because I remember having tons of fun with flying cars in GTA.
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 03:44 |
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cheat codes? You mean console commands? The ~ is your key to an express lane full of fun and fuckery. Killall
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 03:47 |
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Also, cheat codes were a big thing back in the era of video game magazines. Magazines could pay for the rights to be the first ones to publish the codes which would draw in readers. Once the internet and gamefaqs came around, that practice died off quickly along with the magazines.
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 03:55 |
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I don't think Achievements are necessarily to blame, when they can just be disabled while cheats/mods are active. e.g. Skyrim HD on XB1/PS4 would disable achievements/trophies whenever you wanted to play with mods on, same as Perfect Dark with cheats on.
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 04:27 |
Most recent thing I can think of with a legit cheat code was XCOM.
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 05:03 |
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 05:12 |
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 05:19 |
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 05:23 |
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Vice of all places had an interesting article about this recently: https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/how-cheat-codes-vanished-from-video-games Didn't know the Game Genie folks used wave-signs and poo poo to build codes.
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 05:29 |
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Fanatic posted:I don't think Achievements are necessarily to blame, when they can just be disabled while cheats/mods are active. e.g. Skyrim HD on XB1/PS4 would disable achievements/trophies whenever you wanted to play with mods on, same as Perfect Dark with cheats on. Right, some games got around including codes by disabling achievements, but the draw of achievements was greater than the draw of cheat codes which I think contributed to their disappearance. Even in games I didn't give a poo poo about achievement hunting on I wouldn't activate them and deprive myself of the gratification of those little pop-ups. I am part of the problem.
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 05:37 |
Capn Beeb posted:Vice of all places had an interesting article about this recently: I just finished this article, it is definitely worth a click and read, thanks for posting it
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 06:00 |
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I can't think of a game I've played recently where I wanted cheats and it didn't have them. Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Skyrim, and Sims 3 aren't super recent games, but they're not that old. Do Mankind Divided and Sims 4 still have console cheats?
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 09:09 |
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Tiggum posted:I can't think of a game I've played recently where I wanted cheats and it didn't have them. Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Skyrim, and Sims 3 aren't super recent games, but they're not that old. Do Mankind Divided and Sims 4 still have console cheats? DE:HR and Skyrim do not have cheats on console.
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 10:02 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:DE:HR and Skyrim do not have cheats on console. OK, I was mis-remembering DE:HR - it was a mod - but Skyrim definitely has console commands.
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 15:19 |
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 15:21 |
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You don't need codes when the lowest difficulty is so easy. Konami code was the only hope we had to beat contra in the 4 day rental period.
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 16:10 |
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Are we talking about memory injection to change values (ala Game Genie) that can be done to any game? or console commands/debugging features built in specific to certain game? or something more like save game editing? Or official, dev-supported cheats meant for end users? On PC, you can hex edit to memory inject with like CheatEngine, or outright mod or use console commands. So cheat codes or secret cheats usually are moot thus why bother to dev/support something that will break the game. Back in the day on consoles most had cheats merely for debugging during QA and often those became exposed to the end user unintentionally. Some games did launch with unlockable cheat menus for fun, I believe those are the kind you are referring to. Considering most games these days are debugged on or with PC or similar, the need for debug commands or cheat menus on console are irrelevant. In other cases, supporting cheats costs shitloads of dev and QA, to much to warrant just 'leaving them accessible'... These days cheaters use more complicated hacks like bots and the like that more or less play the game for them
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 06:43 |
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The biggest thing that killed cheat codes was widespread ability to save the game, which is a de-facto level select cheat.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 07:07 |
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Play on PC. Between mods, Cheat Engine, and trainers you can cheat whether the devs want you to or not.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 07:10 |
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The lego games have codes you can input to unlock characters and modifiers early
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 07:15 |
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# ? May 6, 2024 03:23 |
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One thing about "just for fun" cheats like big head mode or whatever, they might have stopped making those cheats because they realised that if you're going to include that it's better to just make it a regular option so that people don't miss it. Instead of a small number of people getting a little bit extra fun from knowing about a "secret" thing, more people get to enjoy it.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 10:17 |