Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”

Doronin posted:

He's only about 20% body fat. It was part of his last weigh in, which puts him at the low-end of what is considered normal for a healthy adult male. We're really trying to get him down to around 380, because we don't want him to lose his flexibility.

Although for a photo shoot this week we finally let him put some heavier weight on the bar, and he was hang cleaning 290-pounds with almost no effort. Just before that he was working with 265, and he told one of the coaches "With the cameras I don't want them to think I'm weak." So we had to remind him to be careful how he talks about that, because his teammates (one of whom is 6-8, 375 Evan Neal) struggle with weights he tosses around like they're nothing. He really has no concept of how incomparably strong he is. Taron Vincent is the only one who can match him in the weight room (for now), and Taron looks like a little kid side-by-side to Daniel.

Once the story is closer to publishing (Mar. 6), I'll post a pic I took of Daniel side by side with Taron and RB TJ Pledger.

:staredog:

The espn article described that he had limited training background, yet he's hang cleaning close to 300 with nothing to it? Like, ignoring the lunacy of the weight number, just the idea of being close to 400 pounds with the bend to do that is just....

Please tell me there's a package for him at like NT where he just throws the C backwards hoping to hit the ballcarrier in the backfield. Like, I really want to see what he does when he's trying to tackle people, not just blocking.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”
The SI Article about IMG"s preposterously large lineman just dropped here.

The best parts of the article:

- Picture of what a blocking sled looks like next to him
- The story of him playing punch and hold technique and somehow grabbing the defender's collarbone hard enough he went limp
- Brent Venables asking him to stand by the door because his staff wouldn't actually believe how large he is.


Seriously, play him at T and let him destroy people in a pro-style offense run like Harbaugh or Shaw, or give me the blood I want and make him a 0-tech who just collapses both A-gaps every single play.

Alternatively, let him go to Hawaii and watch Mountain West coaches shake their heads trying to block him with O-lines averaging like 280 and D-lines averaging 250.

TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”
5* DT Taron Vincent to Ohio State over FSU.

Super stoked to have another DT. Only worry is that he looks more like a 3-tech than a 1-tech which is where the vast majority of the guys on the roster already are.

TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”

Crotch Bat posted:

4* QB DeJuan Ellis de-committed from VT like 4 days ago and re-committed today in an incredibly weird recruitment. In a bizarre turn, this is a QB who actually sees himself as a WR or DB at the next level and was concerned he wouldn't be able to play those positions at VT. I'm assuming wires were somehow crossed and Fuente basically gave him carte blanche as to what he wants to do because he came back into the fold tonight. Usually with QB/ATH it's the other way around where they want to play QB.

Recruiting is dumb.

Same thing happened to OSU with Tristen Wallace like a year ago. Urban thought they could coach him up as a qb and fix his accuracy, ended up that he went with Oregon instead to go play receiver

TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”
Malik Hooker's 3* brother Marcus just committed to Ohio State.

He's a little smaller than Malik but still expected to be a safety/nickel type. Honestly, on tape, he might even turn out to be a slot guy on offense with how effing hard it is to tackle him for only being 180 pounds.

TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”

That's a cannon arm. The only thing I thought he could work on from last night was that he pulls his arm back a lot farther than he needs to, which isn't a Tebow wind-up by any means, but is the type of thing that causes fumbles when you get hit and some batted passes.

TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”

Regnevelc posted:

It's looking like QB Shea Patterson, WR Van Jefferson, and Safety Deontay Anderson will be coming to Michigan.

How many of them are eligible immediately? Because if Patterson isn't playing next season, I can't see him faring much better than O'Korn has transferring into that system.

TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”

Regnevelc posted:

They all are expecting to win their appeals and be eligible for next year.

And Patterson is way better than O'Korn, are you high?

Not doubting the talent side of that at all. To clarify, O'Korn looked like an awesome transfer until he ended up trying to run a completely alien system to him going from air raid to Harbaugh's stuff. Patterson's been running Freeze's high school offense for 2 years so far. He's probably going to end up better, but I'm not going to be shocked if he fails to beat out a Peters or McCaffrey on that roster that's been around for a little longer, given that it's a massive massive learning curve.

TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”
4* DT Tommy Togiai and 4* WR Kamryn Babb both pick Ohio State. Class really really needs a DE now but this might end up being a better class than last year’s somehow, which seems impossible.

TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”
Missing on Carman sucks, but I can't say I'm shocked when he's been pretty adamant about hating the idea of people assuming he's an OSU lock. He's not the best personality fit with Urban, but he seems like he'd be a perfect fit with Dabo. Losing Jones was honestly expected at this point, and Baldwin is basically the ideal off-year QB for us, where he's at worst a competent game manager that can backup a Haskins/Martell type comfortably. Woodbey would suck to lose, but we've got enough DBs on the roster. I don't get the scout-types melting down about losing 3 guys, when the roster is stacked at those positions already.

TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”

sportsgenius86 posted:

I was upset about losing Woodbey until I saw the ceremony. Boy was that loving interesting.

Yeah, uh, the Jack Carman comments were weird and bad, like "wants less pressure" and "Urban's old" being things is a really bizarre way of framing that you want to go to a school that won the title last year with a coach 4 years older than Meyer. That said, I can understand him just feeling more comfortable and at home at Clemson and wanting to go there, rather than have everyone assume he's a Buckeye because he's from Ohio (which is such a dumb loving thing in the age of Urban recruiting nationally and especially considering he's from the part of the state that cares the absolute least about OSU).

Woodbey's ceremony was quite literally the worst thing I've ever watched a recruit do for a commitment. Like, oh my god why would you ever think it's a good idea to grab your idiot friends on a live feed and promote your twitter handles and shady AAU-type poo poo. Like, Seantrel Henderson and Bryce Brown didn't manage that level of inanity, and that's really saying something. I wish I could place a prop bet on him DMing that FSU porn star Chad Kelly-style within the next two weeks, because that appears to be the level of smart he is.

TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”

Joey Freshwater posted:

This kid went from unknown to #190 in the nation and a 4* overnight. Literally every single one of his predictions came out yesterday.

His tape is preposterous. No idea how that guy wasn't heard from before.




Ohio State picks up 4* DE/DT Tyler Friday out of Don Bosco in NJ, who was a huge Michigan lean up until about a month ago. It's apparently expected that we have 3-4 more recruits coming this cycle, which seems impossible based on the sheer lack of attrition this year, but I guess that means we have some unannounced transfers still in the wings. 4* LBs Chris Oats and Jevontae Jean-Baptiste are still targets as are OTs Nick Petit-Frere and Rasheed Walker. Apparently Urban is also considering a 3rd RB which seems ridiculous given the depth there right now. Might be an intention to convert him to safety or slot there.

TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”
4* LB/DE Javontae Jean-Baptiste to Ohio State.

Lol, this class is preposterous. Whiff on Parsons and Oweh, end up with Smith, Friday, Jean-Baptiste and a development guy regardless. Whiff on a bunch of tackles and sign the #1 guy at the last second.

TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”

Eltoasto posted:

Umm sorry but an instate guy didn't pick us, so I think you will find that this class is a letdown and Urbz has lost it. (Buckeye fan reactions around the early signing day were ridiculous)

Yeah, the freakout over Carman was weird, because it's far from unprecedented for a guy that caliber to want to leave the state. The more sane fans I know were just worried about OT and DE depth rather than the "OHIO KID" thing. Especially when you consider Urban's traditionally had the team around like 30% Ohio kids over the old Tressel 50%+ way. Much less, the sheer number of walk-ons this year that had other D1 offers is hilarious too. We have a walk-on receiver that outranks like 2-3 of Michigan's WR signees.

#2 in light of the class Georgia put together is really really loving good.

TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”

Nur_Neerg posted:

Sorry for the double post, just wanted to say I'm drafting the 19 thread and will have it posted once signing day's officially over. Title suggestions: go!

Well, based on that Herm Edwards line

NCAAF Recruiting 2019: Oh the Hermanity

or

NCAAF Recruiting 2019: Tomorrow's Champions of Life Today

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”

Kim Jong Il posted:

Parsons is good, and you lost him due to a self-own.

Oweh and Jean-Bapiste are overrated. Oweh is a raw athlete who's done nothing, Jean-Baptiste is just a generic *** being overrated because you can't flip December signees.

My dude, did I say anything about Parsons not being good? We lost him because someone thought that Kirk should ever be used to recruit anything for any reason ever. Also, Franklin seems to think he's an MLB?

Oweh could be a nightmare in the right hands (which Larry Johnson absolutely would have been, and Penn State's new guy currently might be).

Jean-Baptiste's film looks basically like a high-potential, raw edge guy who needs to put on weight where he takes good angles and moves well but has like 2 moves and no heft. Whether that's a 3* or 4* is semantics, but the dude did ball out on his tape and looked pretty impressive in the all-star circuit this year too, so the idea that he's a commodity because of the early signing day isn't exactly warranted. Also, guy's in NJ, cold-weather state where spring ball isn't a thing and means development can take a bit longer. See them all the time in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, NY, etc.


Mike_V posted:

So did Barry Odom completely whiff on Missouri's best high school class ever? I think he maybe grabbed the #9 or 10 guy and that's it.

Yeah, the fact that OSU pulled both Babb and Brown with an air-raid team in state is amazing. That dude is canned in like 6 months at this rate.

  • Locked thread