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Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

I'm gonna embed this for anyone too lazy find it themselves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAWKXw3n7C8

Because it's definetly worth watching.

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Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

Wow, Mini vs effort was a wild ride.

That shuttle snipe in game 4 was amazing.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

They played a trailer for the mod after the show match, and that contained a glimpse of a redone briefing screen. Based on that, I'd assume it's going to be a full conversion.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/436071738 (at about 1:04:20)

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

A technical question about the assimilator/geyser gates:

From what I understand, they work because the assimilator is slightly smaller than the geyser (and refineries/extractors are not). Is it possible for a protoss player to build a new assimilator on top of the geysers, and thus "reopen" the gate? If no, why not?

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

Man, Soulkey vs Ample is great TvZ. I think this is the first time I've seen Queens used properly.

Also great mindgames in game 3.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

Finally got caught up on wednesday's games. Having twice as many games to watch is kind of annoying about the format change.

I got curious about the game Tasteless and Artosis were talking about with the supposedly amazing mindgame, so I went looking (after having to listen to that part several times in order to make out the search terms they were suggesting), and I think I found it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRS0UX3xOhA
Holy poo poo, that's amazing.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

:stare: Well, that sure was a Reaver all-in in game 1.

Also a wonderful example of Dragoon pathfinding in winners match round 1.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

Youtube version of Ro.8 S3 got taken down pretty much immediately, but it can still be seen here:
http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/46766719

Game 2 is really good.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

First round is done:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta-zZKfeZUA

Inner Coven is a weird map. One thing the Liquipedia preview doesn't point out is that the expansion spots have a sunken turret (from the indoor maps) in the Nexus spot, which you need detection to clear. Zerg can send over their starting overlord, Terran can build off-center and move it later, but Protoss basically have to settle for a permanently off-center Nexus (or have 0 expansions until observers are out).

Also, we might actually see Devourers used in PvZ on this map?

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUHdRcnpxmc
Man, Devourers cripple Corsairs. Also some neat usage of Ensnare and Disruption web in Game 1.

DEEP STATE PLOT posted:

stork made a scout in his game 1, inner coven confirmed for greatest map
The sheer disbelief from Artosis/Tasteless when they see that is amazing.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6adNJKsmqQ
An interesting discovery in game 1: Psionic Storm can destroy the eggs on Inner Coven, and can be cast from inside the disruption web.
Also the first look at TvT on Inner Coven in game 2.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF6GczAXpJI
Lots of good TvT, with quite a few surprises.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9fuCqsiGTU
First ZvZ on Inner Coven. Most Mutalisks win.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

Took a long time for the youtube upload today - I started wondering if it had been taken down due to music clips again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr-RCt6OiOI
1:24 for winner's game 2. Watch it. WATCH IT.
I like the last set of games too, but that's the one you have to watch.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

I'd kinda like to see a normal game on Hitchhiker, but it looks like none of the players want to play one.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

Heavy_D posted:

Ignore those guys, here's a much quicker and simpler strategy

It won't embed
what


Anyway,
A lot the early campaign mission are kinda annoying due to the limited unit availabilty (Terran 6(?) where you have marines/wraiths/goliaths vs an entire map covered in sunken/spore colonies comes to mind).

For Zerg 4, the AI doesn't have Siege mode on his tanks, so I found mass hydralisks to do fairly well - all you need is an unprotected place to drop them (IIRC top left of the island in the SW end of the map doesnt have turrets). Also, once you start fighting on an island, the AI cheerfully drops reinforcements 1-2 units at a time, so you can whittle down his entire army from one island. Personally I found Zerg 3 more annoying, since that one pits you against sieged tanks on high ground (and no Queens yet, so broodlings are out).

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

Been looking at the maps at Liquipedia:
https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/2020_AfreecaTV_Starleague_Season_10#Maps

Looks like Plasma is going to be "the weird map" this tournament (that's a lot of eggs).
Although Optimizer has two geysers in the main, which will probably result in some unusal strategies as well.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY1mnqH-oh0
So much for Tier lists.

Don't miss game 4.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6U4mpWiPR0
Winner's match is great.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

Oh god, the second gas steal.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

Final set is great too.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

First look at Plasma (losers game 1), and it gave us pretty crazy game too.

Kinda disappointed we actually got an infested Command Center, but still didn't see Infested Terrans get into play.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

Holy poo poo, Snow.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010


Yeah, don't sleep on this one - even you can't understand a word.
I initially assumed double Robo into double Reaver drops was the big unusual play, but then...

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

:siren: NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED :siren:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-XXDApJSlo

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyMVNf5m0rc
Featuring a wonderfully specific counterbuild in game 3.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

That was awesome.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sOb-be1Mlw
:stare:

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

A new strategy against zerg on Ultimate Stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgHPE8eXer0
(not embedded because the thumbnail has spoilers)

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

The final game is completely insane.

The rest are good, but the final one kinda overshadows that.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDD2GelmX5c
Even got a normal game on Lemon (well, as normal as any game on Lemon can be).
And yes, Movie did shoot his own Observer.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6uwY5D6djk
I love when a strategy is so weird it just breaks the casters. "...what?" "...yeah." "...what?" "...yeah."

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

(Non-ASL)

PvT goes off the rails:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0HJ4yP_0OM

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYcZpsj3wnk
That Overlord was not worth it.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

Artosis has been casting BSL on his channel (Ro. 8 and up)
Just finished the 3rd place match, which is some really good TvZ:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDjaLPKSNIY

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

One of the weirder TvZ games I've seen (preceded by an extremely short PvZ):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM-BxI-sG9w

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

It's not every day you see firebats fighting probes, but the opportunity arose, and it worked pretty well.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010


oh god the bait turret

Also, I was checking some things on liquipedia, and...

quote:

Firebats deal full damage to Protoss shields, and are questionably viable as a surprise early game attack in an Infantry based-build. However, standard TvP, which involves Factory units, is generally more effective. Occasionally, a Terran player will land a Barracks at a Protoss expansion and produce Firebats, with the intent of harassing the expansion.
https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Firebat
How long has this been here?

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

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Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

Holy poo poo that first game

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