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infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

pagancow posted:

ok now post the pagancow one with MORE FPS

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infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
lol *immediate pre-order availability*

amd can't even pull off a hard launch. can't wait for the inevitable process issues and schedule slips to restrict availability so much their price advantage disappears

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Maximum Leader posted:

intel is beat on price, perf and power now

well, amd says that, yes

of course you can't buy one yet and no one is allowed to publish actual benchmarks until they're available for sale, so lol

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
okay, i'm not going all :tinfoil: here, but maybe wait for anand or someone to publish some real world benchmarks before crowning amd king poo poo of gently caress mountain over a press event

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
probably just to start selling lower binned xeon e5 as i7s, without the workstation chipset/ecc requirments

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
it also remains to be seen if amd can make a chipset that isn't a flaming piece of poo poo

i, for one, am optimistic

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

minivanmegafun posted:

a ProLiant MicroServer and it has a Turion

sorry for your lots

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
zen seems to be targeting that ever growing juggernaut of the PC market, home desktop PCs

without ecc support they're worthless for actual workstations or entry level servers, so i guess going for the biggest markets of 2003, the last time amd was even remotely relevant, makes sense

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

not exactly the market of the future, but i think the "enthusiast" crowd still exists and is very prepared to go with anything that seems a bit flashier than intels offerings. i expect they can make some quick cash there, and then longer term get another go at servers going

the enthusiast crowd is approximately a rounding error in the PC market

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
seriously though, who is this product for? you have a dozen cores but can't support high memory densities. what's the advantage of having 8 cores for a basic desktop? nothing is multithreaded enough to take advantage of that until you start getting to specialized workloads that you'd want an actual workstation for

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

i can't quite tell how much of it is ignorance and how much of it is the perverse compulsion to spend money on new computers each year that have more/bigger numbers than last year's model.

it's both

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

The Management posted:

I frequently do things at work that can use as many cores as you can throw at them. at home not so much.

sure, and presumably since this is your job, you have an actual workstation to do it on. one with ecc ram that isn't riced out to infinity with mad overclocks

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

why are they overclocking what game has that as a bottleneck?

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
ryzen: multi core don't mean poo poo or how amd fails to compete with two generation old intels yet again

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
it'll get better, we promise!

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
anand's take

so if you have a cpu bound multi-threaded workload, and for some reason didn't already have a xeon e5 to run it on, you could conceivably save money by buying a ryzen

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
yup. the core can support it, but all the consumer parts have that disabled.

so forget reliably using high memory densities

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

carry on then posted:

if they're xeon, supercomputers workstations, servers

if they're core i, nerds with too much money

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
here's a hint, if you have any use case for that many cores, you can't use ryzen because of the lack of ecc support

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Endless Mike posted:

a $350 intel will last like 10 years. a $1500 one will last like...10 years

yeah, but only one give you the kind of e-peen you need to put your specs in your forums' sig

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
if you really want to know who's buying $1500 core branded cpus, it's middle aged men with no real hobbies who sometimes play video games on easy and like to think they have the latest and greatest of everything

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
naples, or how we stacked our benchmarks to look like we beat the e5

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infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
amd: we'll fix it in POST

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