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Elise trained at the Lilina school of Caps Magic Stupid Fast. Effie, meanwhile, went to the Oswin school of Knights With Decent Speed. And Arthur is actually a good example of gameplay/story intergration: Arthur has terrible luck as a character, and he has terrible Luck as a unit!
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Apr 22, 2017 01:19
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Odin's growths make it better for him to go Dark Knight (the okay-but-not-great Strength growth means he can actually be a decent sword user). The other Dark Mage is definitely meant to go Sorcerer.
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Apr 23, 2017 05:10
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mandatory lesbian posted:odin's growths make it better for him to go to the bench Well, maybe I got lucky with him! That's what you hope for with Erk-types: you either go big or go home.
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Apr 23, 2017 05:23
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You should have named it Blazing Sword, to fit with Owain's gimmick of referencing previous FE titles through attacks.
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Apr 23, 2017 16:35
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Scratch what I said about Elise, Nyx is the true attender of the Lilina school of Nuke The Enemies And Burn The Ashes. If you think Nyx's skill growth sucks, play FE6: Lilina has a 20% Skill growth.
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Apr 25, 2017 02:43
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While I do like this map, it's basically blatant "HEY BUY REVELATION YOU DINGUS".
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May 5, 2017 03:27
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For anyone worried: Echoes's story is officially confirmed by Japanese players to be Not poo poo and is actually Quite Good.
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May 6, 2017 20:32
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Okay, some of you may disagree with me on this, but I will admit that this game does do one thing right writing-wise, and that's having Nohrian and Hoshidan characters contrast and reflect each other. Let's start with the younger sisters and their retainers. Elise is a perky, hyperactive and peppy younger sister, while Sakura's a shy, demure, and quiet one Arthur is loud, proud, and energetic hero, while Subaki is just as proud, but more introverted and narcissistic. Effie and Hana are both the best friends of who they serve, but Hana's more focused on being a good retainer while Effie's focused on being a good protector.
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May 11, 2017 23:07
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Why isn't there a Berserker Class Overview?
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May 12, 2017 01:27
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Tae posted:Because I'm doing that next update Okay, cool.
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May 12, 2017 01:28
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...am I the only one who thinks Odin would make a good henshin hero, while Ophelia would be a good magical girl?
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May 17, 2017 01:04
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So, uh, Echoes just came out, and holy hell does it do Fates's plot a heck of a lot better than Fates itself did.
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May 19, 2017 22:52
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Tae posted:If you guys wanna take Echoes talk to the thread itself, feel free. I kinda don't want people being spoiled by it randomly here because most westerners never played Gaiden and there's a lot of new stuff in Echoes regardless. My apologies.
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May 19, 2017 23:40
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Ah, Soleil. Easily one of, if not THE most controversial character in this game.
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May 25, 2017 02:11
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Oh, and Soleil's base class's promotion allows her to learn Sol, which I find hysterical.
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May 25, 2017 16:54
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AradoBalanga posted:Thankfully, Tetsuya Nomura hasn't graced the franchise yet. Yeah, while some of his designs are relatively cool and interesting, I've always preferred more simple and clean designs, when it comes to characters.
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May 25, 2017 20:57
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*bangs head on a wall* On a lighter note, I have an idea for all the writers out there: Without changing the characters and setting, how would you have re-written Birthright and all that we've seen of Conquest up to this point?
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May 27, 2017 19:40
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 Suzanoh, or as it should be romanized, Susanooh, was the Japanese god of storms. Even if this game has a plot that would be rejected by the world's cheapest publishing agency if it was a book, it at least has some educational content!
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Jun 3, 2017 01:22
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Thank goodness IntSys went back to a good plot with solid writing in Echoes. Even without giving away anything, there are some chuckle-worthy lines there, unlike here, where all funny lines are in the "so bad it's funny" category. "Shut up, Tobin" comes to mind, but Mae and Boey trade a few great quips as well ("Roasting marshmallows", anyone?)
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Jun 4, 2017 18:56
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Endorph posted:that's not really intsys so much as the different translators. The translators didn't write the basic plot for Fates, IntSys did. Sure, I can say that Echoes has a better overall translation than Fates, but I'd rather have a good plot that was translated sub-parly rather than an excellently translated plot that sucked.
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Jun 4, 2017 19:10
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CptWedgie posted:The fact that Echoes is a remake of Gaiden might have something to do with it; maybe they're just the kind of writers who can't do anything original to save their lives, but they can elaborate on a plot someone else made just fine. ...so they're destined to write fanfiction? ...I can't believe I just said that. Then again, I have some sort of natural talent to tell if a fic is good or not just by reading a synopsis.
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Jun 4, 2017 20:59
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Camel Pimp posted:I mean, you can definitely tell that the original script of Echoes is better than Fates even in translation (I mean, unless the translation team completely rewrote Echoes which is a bit unlikely nowadays) But JRPGs are carried more by charm and character than plot, so I'd argue that the better translation is a bit more important. Besides a good plot would get mangled by a bad translator anyway. I didn't say BAD translation, I said SUB-PAR. Breath of Fire 1 had a sub-par translation. Breath of Fire 2 had a bad one. One is simply wooden and dry, the other is full of grammar mistakes and renamed characters.
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Jun 4, 2017 21:03
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Endorph posted:You were writing out specific snappy lines though, which is the work of the translators. Well, yeah, you have a point, but those lines had to have existed in some way, shape or form in the original Japanese script.
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Jun 4, 2017 23:32
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Endorph posted:Not really at all. The sentiment being expressed is often but not always in the original script, but the line itself is always made up for the translation. Like, always. Literal translations of Japanese into English don't exist. The JP line for 'shut up, tobin' is just a rude dismissal, then Tobin's name. and there's a billion ways you could translate that that would be more or less natural. "Be quiet, Tobin," which is less rude, "You don't know what you're talking about, Tobin,' which isn't as snappy, "Cram it, Tobin.' You could even totally rewrite it so that Gray redirects the conversation back to Clive, since Clive picks up talking after that line. "Like you could understand what a knight's been through. Right, Clive?" Wow. I legitimately did not know this. Thank you for telling me.
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Jun 5, 2017 00:17
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Endorph posted:The game cheating is fun. The best maps in FE5 are the ones where it cheats. Fire Emblem is a tactical series where the plot is almost always about a weaker army managing to overcome a much stronger one due to Friendship and Strategy. Every enemy in every FE game should cheat. ...you're one of those people who likes FE5 Fog of War and the teleport tiles, aren't you.
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Jun 10, 2017 19:44
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Heaven Spacey posted:"Shadow Yato" is a goofy-rear end name and I'm really surprised the translators couldn't think of something a little less ridiculous-sounding like "Umbral Yato" or "Shrouded Yato" or something like that. Which brings up a point of trivia I've been wanting to share: The Yato's original Japanese names. Firstly, the base form is known as 夜刀神 (or Yato-no-Kami). Yato-no-kami are snake deities in Japanese folklore appearing in the Hitachi No Kuni Fudoki. It literally means God of the Night Sword. The Noble Yato was 夜刀神 • 空夜 (Yato-no-Kami - Kūya, literally Yato-no-Kami - Empty Nights). The Blazing Yato was 夜刀神 • 白夜 (Yato-no-Kami - Byakuya lit. Yato-no-Kami - White Nights) The Grim Yato was 夜刀神 • 長夜 (Yato-no-Kami - Chōya lit. Yato-no-Kami - Long Nights) And then, the Shadow Yato was 夜刀神 • 暗夜 (Yato-no-Kami - Anya lit. Yato-no-Kami - Dark Nights)
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Jun 11, 2017 02:57
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BlazeEmblem posted:Suddenly, the Grim and Shadow Yatos seem like good names. Are you saying the Japanese names are terrible?
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Jun 11, 2017 22:37
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Can we all at least agree that they did the soundtrack right? Because Fates's soundtrack is extraordinary.
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Jun 14, 2017 20:37
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This guy makes me look like the Guinness Book of World Record's World's Best Poster, and considering how crappy I am, that's saying something.
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Jun 16, 2017 05:38
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RevolverDivider posted:for the sake of everyone especially yourself please stop posting in this thread. I have a whole new realm of appreciation for Junpei's posting now. Aw, thanks!
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Jun 16, 2017 05:51
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Face, meet Desk. AND THIS IS FROM SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T MIND THE BLOOD PACTS IN RD.
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Jun 17, 2017 17:55
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The plot hurts worse than that magic trick where a guy sits in a barrel while the magician sticks swords into the sides of the barrel, except with actual swords sticking into the barrel guy.
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Jun 18, 2017 00:02
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Bruceski posted:The plot hurts worse than that analogy. Yeah, that was a pretty lovely analogy.
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Jun 18, 2017 00:35
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Okay, it's been a decent length since the last time I asked this, and we've received a bit of new information from mid-Conquest into to start-of-Revelations, so I think this is an opportune time to ask this again: Without major changes, how would you change the plot to be better?
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Jun 18, 2017 01:49
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Fun fact: The Yato's handle is based on a vajra, a weapon from India.
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Jun 22, 2017 01:40
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And this is the part where I almost kill myself banging my head against the wall. For the love of Naga, I hope they fired everyone involved with writing this story.
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Jun 23, 2017 23:57
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MightyPretenders posted:FE2 was when the developers were thinking "Okay, that was cool. Let's do something else on the same world." FE4: Let's make this more serious and deconstruct it a little! FE5: Let's make it super hard, but also really dark, but strangely satisfying! FE6: Let's return to our roots! FE7: Let's make a more personal story! FE8: Let's try and re-do what we did with Gaiden again!
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Jun 27, 2017 23:57
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Dr. Fetus posted:Was that C support real? I chose to believe that it's a parody of fans making unofficial supports for edgy characters like FE7 Karel and Jaffar that are literally just "...". It dulls the sting that SOMEBODY CHANGED IT FROM THE JAPANESE SUPPORT, WHICH WAS THEM ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY'RE BOTH ASSASSINS.
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BlackPersona posted:Don't be ridiculous, Hoshido doesn't need assassins, they're pure and good and wholesome and Magic-anti-bad-thoughts barrier! ...when you put it that way, it makes them sound either incredibly creepy or like total Mary Sues/Marty Stus.
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