Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



Shooting Blanks posted:

It's utter bullshit and an arbitrary number. It's useful as a statement to emphasize that it takes practice to be good at any task - but as a blanket statement it's pretty easily misinterpreted.

A better one is "Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong."

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

Soon I'll be suffering through Path of Exiles story. Why do I do it? I want to see if my Kitava's Thirst Volatile Dead Lightning Warp (it gets like 10+ casts a second of lightning warp ZOOOM) actually works. Will I get bored before I get to that point? Probably. Will I spend at least 8 hours before I say gently caress it and stop? Yeah probably. Would I be happier watching Jericho (like my third or fourth watch I think) or playing Backpack Battles? Absolutely.

Anyway my build is pretty sweet let me explain it to you all.

Kitava's Thirst has a 50% chance to Trigger Socketed Spells when you Spend at least 100 Mana on an
Upfront Cost to Use or Trigger a Skill, with a 0.1 second Cooldown

So I'm going to use lightning warp to trigger volatile dead. For corpse generation I have cast while damage taken descrate/unearth triggered by eye of innocence. Ignite chance is 100% thanks to Elementalist. I get extra cast speed with the necromancer node that gives it on corpse consumption. I get the necromancer node by using Forbidden Flesh and Forbidden Flame. The corpses are consumed by volatile dead. I reduce my skill duration using timeclasps so lightning warp is faster. This also gives me recoup for mana and life which as well as cast speed. A replica reckless defense allows me to ignite myself from the eye of innocence damage.

William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



And you're still occasionally going to be unavoidably one-shot by the mere act of existing within the game space

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



William Henry Hairytaint posted:

A better one is "Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong."

Another good quote on the topic comes from Picasso: “Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist.”

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

William Henry Hairytaint posted:

And you're still occasionally going to be unavoidably one-shot by the mere act of existing within the game space

They made like the third screen of the first act have charging creatures that can and will stun lock you. The fact that they thought that was a good idea, and have kept it in the game is pretty telling on what Grinding Gear Games thinks makes a good game.

Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Mar 29, 2024

Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー

Duck and Cover posted:

is pretty telling on what Grinding Gear Games thinks makes a good game.

It's in the name, man. The company was founded upon a deep contempt of gamers and knowing their lizard brains.

Outpost22
Oct 11, 2012

RIP Screamy You were too good for this world.
Who came up with red = health, green = stamina, and blue/purple = mana?

I think it's about time for an update to that.

William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



Outpost22 posted:

Who came up with red = health, green = stamina, and blue/purple = mana?

I think it's about time for an update to that.

in Daggerfall green was health and red was stamina, and now Bethesda is laughed at by nearly everyone. Coincidence? Maybe. But can we really take that chance?

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

red=health probably comes from the facts that blood is red and that losing blood typically results in your health going down irl.

DontMockMySmock
Aug 9, 2008

I got this title for the dumbest fucking possible take on sea shanties. Specifically, I derailed the meme thread because sailors in the 18th century weren't woke enough for me, and you shouldn't sing sea shanties. In fact, don't have any fun ever.
Pretty sure that Diablo was a big influence on that standard. It definitely was using the blood=health logic, and then blue is a nice contrasting color for mana. Green for stamina mostly comes from dark souls, right? LOZ Skyward Sword? Idk.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Maybe Skyrim? A lot of people played Skyrim, and I think it was yellow in Morrowind but these days I definitely assume green is stamina. Technically green is just an advanced yellow so it covers a wide range.

satanic splash-back
Jan 28, 2009

It's because having your lifebar be any other color than red is just weird

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!

Khanstant posted:

Maybe Skyrim? A lot of people played Skyrim, and I think it was yellow in Morrowind but these days I definitely assume green is stamina. Technically green is just an advanced yellow so it covers a wide range.

Morrowind used the standard red=health blue=magic and green=stamina template. The yellow bars you’re remembering are for the enemies health.

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
Nap Ghost
Legend of Zelda had red hearts for life, but most NES/SNES games had green life bars with red for damage

It really was Diablo that locked in red=life blue=mana, red potion blue potion thing

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

In the Super Mario Brothers porn parody the stamina bar was green so that's probably the first known occurrence of green for stamina

George
Nov 27, 2004

No love for your made-up things.
its the weed bar op

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

Serephina posted:

It's in the name, man. The company was founded upon a deep contempt of gamers and knowing their lizard brains.

I mean yeah but they still managed to make a zoomy fast game in spite of the all the stuff they do to slow it down.

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

1000 hours is crazy, I get bored looking at graphics and hearing the sound effects at like 150 hours at most

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

I mute pretty much every singelplayer game after the first few hours

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!
Zelda games used green for magic all the way until Skyward Sword where they buckled to the industry standard and made it stamina, another black mark against that terrible game.

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008
I put 60 hours into BG3 before uninstalling it at the halfpoint of Act 3. If I get into a game and hit around the 50 hour mark, my interest just craters. Usually I just switch games and revisit it if I haven't finished it (or if it's Kenshi) a few months later. Will probably do that with BG3, though I'm not really into the characters and writing.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

DontMockMySmock posted:

Green for stamina mostly comes from dark souls, right?

Pretty sure stamina typically being green was very much a thing before 2011.

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010
Yeah, Demons Souls did that a whole 2 years earlier

ovenboy
Nov 16, 2014

In balatro the number of hands is you hp (hand points??), your cards in hand are your mana, and your number of discards are your stamina. I think this will be the norm going forward.

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005

SilvergunSuperman posted:

Something about a weird melodrama with cute little sprites worked for me.

Playing final fantasy 15 is like, the gently caress is this lame rear end poo poo.

:same:

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Wait, Diablo IV has persistent always on enemy level scaling? So in a game about grinding to make number go up, number never actually go up?

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Barudak posted:

Wait, Diablo IV has persistent always on enemy level scaling? So in a game about grinding to make number go up, number never actually go up?

correct, no matter how long you play, it's still going to be Daiblo IV and the number won't go up until they develop and publish Diablo V and then you buy it. microtransactions smdh

Vic
Nov 26, 2009

malae fidei cum XI_XXVI_MMIX

Barudak posted:

Wait, Diablo IV has persistent always on enemy level scaling? So in a game about grinding to make number go up, number never actually go up?

It's even better. It's per character level scaling so if you and your friend are fighting a monster it has a health pool proportional to each's characters damage output until you reach max level and start playing on further difficulties.

So your lvl 1 friend is doing roughly the same kinda damage as you on lvl 30 to the same monster but you each see different numbers fly out.

George
Nov 27, 2004

No love for your made-up things.
Listen, I don't need some overly complex chore. I just want to FIGHT some DEMONS. And I have a phone.

God, I hate when new diablo devs talk about diablo.

William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



anyone that plays diablo 4 is dumb

D2R exists and it fixes the biggest problem D2 had (looking like complete dogshit) so go play that instead if you really need a Diablo game in your life

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
In Diablo 3 I recall that it was often better to bring a low level player because of the weird damage scaling and they could deal more damage than your high level character.

It's actually a pretty brilliant design, really helps push people away from their terrible casino genre.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

William Henry Hairytaint posted:

anyone that plays diablo is dumb

itry
Aug 23, 2019




William Henry Hairytaint posted:

anyone that plays diablo 4 is dumb

D2R exists and it fixes the biggest problem D2 had (looking like complete dogshit) so go play that instead if you really need a Diablo game in your life

Unless I can import my old characters, I don't care :colbert:


Regardless, I don't care. I've played enough D2 back in the day to last me until D10.

DontMockMySmock
Aug 9, 2008

I got this title for the dumbest fucking possible take on sea shanties. Specifically, I derailed the meme thread because sailors in the 18th century weren't woke enough for me, and you shouldn't sing sea shanties. In fact, don't have any fun ever.

William Henry Hairytaint posted:

anyone that plays diablo 4 is dumb

D2R exists and it fixes the biggest problem D2 had (looking like complete dogshit) so go play that instead if you really need a Diablo game in your life

instead of playing this poo poo you should all come play Diablo 2: Eastern Sun: Eclipse on the goon server.
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3960054&pagenumber=14&perpage=40#post537240512

Eastern Sun is a long-standing mod from like 2005 or something that goons have been slowly modifying and improving over the years, with the latest overhaul from a couple months ago, Eclipse, adding in more endgame content and a huge swath of new items. There's a discord where you can hang out and get help and stuff. It's cool as hell.

Also there are a number of graphical overhaul things to make it look less like poo poo to address WHH's problem.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Friends don't let friends Diablo.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

goonies never diablo

That Fucking Sned
Oct 28, 2010

Click to move in a game where you control a single character

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
A tangled skein of bad opinions, the hottest takes, and the the world's most misinformed nonsense. Do not engage with me, it's useless, and better yet, put me on ignore.

That loving Sned posted:

Click to move in a game where you control a single character

The game is meant to be played one handed, using the mouse.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

DontMockMySmock posted:

instead of playing this poo poo you should all come play Diablo 2: Eastern Sun: Eclipse on the goon server.
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3960054&pagenumber=14&perpage=40#post537240512

Eastern Sun is a long-standing mod from like 2005 or something that goons have been slowly modifying and improving over the years, with the latest overhaul from a couple months ago, Eclipse, adding in more endgame content and a huge swath of new items. There's a discord where you can hang out and get help and stuff. It's cool as hell.

Also there are a number of graphical overhaul things to make it look less like poo poo to address WHH's problem.

e: Actually I'm a little bit glad there are still people playing Diablo 2 but drat, guys. No worse than the psychos who replay Oblivion I guess

QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Mar 30, 2024

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
in highschool a friend beat the game and was excited and his dad asked what he was yellin about and he says "I just beat Diablo!" and his dad goes "oh is that what you call it nowadays?"

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply