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FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Haha, yeah, this is definitely the thing that will sink Trump. He's totally sunk now, guys. This is it. This is the thing.

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FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Look everyone! Trump's base of die-hard supporters is totally abandoning-- will abandon-- just keep watching, it'll happen!

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Poetic Justice posted:

I think people should go to the actual source of information and not rely on pre-edited, censored, and spun information, personally.
Sorry, you think every single person has the time, knowledge, and access necessary to rely on primary sources?

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Poetic Justice posted:

We began this conversation because according to you Trump didn't fire Flynn immediately and was just using him as some sort of plausible deniability chip. Perhaps Trump wanted some investigation done seriously and diligently before making that decision?
You have no evidence there was any such investigation.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Poetic Justice posted:

Yes. Thirsty Girl said Trump was briefed months ago about Flynn. My beginning point and first post that started this was we don't know what Trump was briefed with, and I personally won't judge Trump for not immediately firing Flynn because without knowing what sort of information was shown, it's not something I'd feel qualified making a judgement on.
So what you're saying is that Trump was told months ago that Flynn did something illegal. In the intervening months, he could have been doing something that makes that okay, but we have no evidence of that whatsoever. So even though there's lots of evidence that Trump was aware Flynn acted wrong and ignored it, none of that counts, and instead we need to wait for... what, exactly?

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Obviously no decisions of any sort should be made over the next four to eight years, because we do not have telepathy, and therefore it is impossible to know, or look into, or find out, what anyone knows or what motivates their decisions.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Poetic Justice posted:

I think we should wait for more information before jumping to conclusions, yes.
But there is so much information. The Flynn resignation is the result of many, many investigative reports. It's not a single story. This is stuff that has been emerging for some time now. All you're doing is setting impossible standards in which you'll keep asking for new information until you like the information.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

feelix posted:

lol hillary lost
She forgot to campaign lmao.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Poetic Justice posted:

It's not about whether I like the information or not, I'm pretty indifferent. The whole point was people are somehow saying Trump knew or knows or has ties with Russia because Flynn resigned and that Trump has known for months that Flynn had ties to Russia because he was briefed. What I'm saying is we don't know what was in the briefing. Was it perhaps "Flynn and the Russian ambassador where at the same coffee shop at the same time, while both were on trips to the same city." We have no idea what information was relayed in that briefing and again, I, personally, won't judge Trump for not immediately firing him after that briefing.
So you would support congressional investigations to find out what Trump knew and when he knew it?

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Great, then you're on the same side as congressional Democrats who are being blocked by the Republican party. Welcome to the left, new friend.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

The dozens of 20-something goons who have read Rules for Radicals apparently lmao

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

You guys need to put down your Bob Dylan records and your Jane Fonda movies and live in the freaking real world!

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

GREAT SATAN posted:

Mod response and a straw man attack from one poo poo post. I gotta say I'm not tired of this winning
I just think the idea of goons reading a book from the 60s is funny, it's not really a response to your argument.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

VikingSkull posted:

the lord of the rings was written in the 30's so I mean...
And it has more influence on goon politics than Rules for Radicals.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Yes, all the mods legit voted for DJ Trump as well as MC Pence.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Tallgeese posted:

Huh. I finally have something to point to when people ask why they should respect the moderation team. Thanks!
Your custom title is insane.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

I checked the IPs and you're all from Bulgaria.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

do you hate democracy????
No, but the electoral college does. :moonrio:

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

these takes are too hot!!!
They're spicy like a bulgogi hoagie!

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

Except you know nothing of actual being in America, what Americans are like outside your news
I'm an American and the foreigner is right.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Turns out when you're the world's dominant cultural exporter and the entire world follows your news, people outside the country will know stuff about you.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

We had a Muslim Socialist president for 8 years
You're proving his point

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

VikingSkull posted:

I wonder if they know Bernie would have won
Even amoebas know this.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Tallgeese posted:

He's trolling, you know. Very successfully, might I add.
Actually, these are the most troll-free forums on the internet.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Poetic Justice posted:

The story, as reported, since you now believe Trump's tweets, is false. He didn't know where the information came from. That was the underpinning of the entire WashPo article.


So you are gonna believe Trump when he said he shared certain information, but not believe him when he said he didn't know where the information came from? How convenient for you.
Man, if you don't get why people trust the news media, with all its flaws, over a man who has been caught lying constantly for years, I don't know what to tell you.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Avirosb posted:

One gets used to it :)
I'm agnostic but also a contrarian and somewhat cynical by nature, so whenever someone expresses a strong opinion for or against a higher purpose I tend to play the devil's advocate.
Woah. drat, dude. You just blew my mind. See you third period for trig.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

The Hill also says Anthony Weiner is innocent, sooooooo

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

I like how you're not allowed to talk about Hillary even when she's directly involved, basically because there's no defense for it.
Probably because this isn't about Clinton's actions, it's about members of the Trump campaign meeting with Russian officials, then releasing emails about those meetings.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

I'll take Russia over Hillary any day of the week.
also lol at this defense

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

It was a meeting about Hillary. Hence, I will side with the Russians, who are way cooler than she is.
This is the behavior of a cultist.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

Shouldn't you be cracking racist jokes in FYAD?
Yes, and you're distracting me from it. I'm definitely going to ban you for that. Just you wait.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

The only thing me and my FYAD buddies love more than racism is Hillary Racism Clinton herself.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

VikingSkull posted:

me a few months ago :smug:

me now :stonklol:

Me, maybe later? :stare:
I thought the progression was :stare: :stonk: :stonklol:

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Who What Now posted:

Why would a trump supporter :stare: when his candidate won?
Maybe it's not about winning or losing. Maybe... maybe it's about something more important. *camera pans to an ice-cold can of Tab*

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

The_Cack posted:

lol

No the behavior of a cultist is to "sacrifice a chicken to Moloch". If Pedosta's emails are fake like everyone says they are why is the establishment going mad over them lol :frogbon:
We aren't talking about Podesta's emails???

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Lmao I've never seen this.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Significant Ant posted:

lol at siding with a neofeudal state full of drug addicts with a tsarist wannabe at the helm

really makes u think when our interests start to converge doesn't it
What's wrong with siding with America?

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

FuzzySkinner posted:

I think the conclusion I've reached is that the "TRUMP RUSSIA" story is mass hysteria in the vain of "911 IS AN INSIDE JOB", mixed in with the "SADDAM HAS WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION" that was brought on by the Bush administrator.

I;m gonna be sincere here. I think to them...election night 2016 was akin to some sort of national/personal tragedy. But it's easier to accept that narrative that their candidate ran a poo poo campaign, didn't go to the swing states, was absolutely LOATHED by the general public, and voter apathy was caused as a result.

I'll get someone flipping out at me for even insisting that Hillary being a poo poo candidate was an even bigger factor to her loss than any Russian "Hacking" could ever be. I imagine as soon as I post this I'm going to get accused of being a "DON'T TREAD ON ME"-type despite that being the farthest from the truth.
Here's the thing though: Donald Jr. just released a bunch of emails showing collusion with the Russians. Like just now.

Hillary Clinton was a bad candidate who ran a bad campaign and would have lost regardless, but that doesn't change the fact that the Trump campaign worked with Russia to influence the election.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

The_Cack posted:

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/30489


"W ith fingers crossed, the old rabbit's foot out of the box in the attic, I will be sacrificing a chicken in the backyard to Moloch . ."

Where's the confirmation bias? :mmmsmug:
Wait, sorry, do you actually think he sacrificed a chicken in his backyard?

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FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:

Spunky is a 9/11 truther, no joke. But this conspiracy is actually cool and good.

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

Alex Jones rules.
This explains so much.

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