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Lightning Lord posted:Definitely a no one knows situation. I doubt if a case for impeachment can be constructed and made ready for presentation to the Senate this year, even if they started working on it today. I think it's more likely that establishment Republicans will pressure Trump into resigning this year or next. If he won't go quietly, they'll green-light impeachment proceedings. TheImmigrant posted:Depends on what more comes to light in the next few days and weeks. Currently, there's not enough. Impeachment requires the votes of 67 senators, and that's not happening unless Trumplethinskin becomes such a political liability that Republican senators are worries about their own skins. If the Senate votes along party lines for impeachment, they'd only need about 20 Republicans to vote alongside Senate Democrats. That would be enough for a conviction. Grouchio posted:Doesn't Pence want to put the LGBT community in internment camps and shock-therapy the gay out of them? Yes, he advocates defunding HIV research and using the government's money instead for "conversion therapy." People like him really believe that gays live a tortured existence with their "unwanted same-sex attractions," and are desperate for a way out of the "lifestyle."
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:It's weird, because it's never been clear if he meant that or just was saying other lovely republican opinions. Like he said they should defund AIDS treatment until the government stopped funding the behavior that spreads AIDS and people jumped to that meaning "being gay", and it might well be that he meant that but it's a reach and he might just mean stuff like "giving out condoms" using the good old lovely republican logic that always thinks condoms increases sex or whatever. No, it's well known that he despises gay people, and the conversion therapy thing is only one example. His track record as governor of IN is ample proof he's every bit as homophobic as Cruz or Huckabee. I wish there was a way be rid of him before Trump goes. Maybe a sudden heart attack?
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Yeah, absolutely, it seems like he wanted gay people to flat out die not get conversion, which is why the quote is weird, like the idea he wants gay conversion was the charitable interpretation and it seems like he just wanted to convert them into being not alive anymore. Like "pence wants gay conversion camps" always seems like a weird thing that softened his position from his actual position. The evangelical whackadoodles whose support Trump and the other GOP candidates sought (and received) during the campaigns haven't gone away. They helped get this administration elected, and they expect to be rewarded. These are the folks who want to put gays into camps ringed with razor wire and guard towers. I worry that Pence would happily indulge them and the other bigots who've become more vocal since the election. I might lose the right to marry my boyfriend while Trump's in the White House, but President Pence wouldn't stop the people who'd cut my throat at the first opportunity.
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