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Grouchio posted:Can we also talk about how these proceedings may play out? Or the chances of Pence's involvement in the scandals and how it might/might not result in him stepping down? And how the hell can a GOP led house be convinced to impeach Trump? Not to get too  but it seems plausible that Pence, Ryan, and McConnell are complicit in Russian collusion, at least with the attempted cover up. There have been reports of them ignoring intel while they sideline inquiries.I'm not sure what the solution is to this, because if the leaders of both houses are compromised it indicates that there are significant issues with the entire Republican Party being compromised. And until 2018 they have control of the only institutions that can remove the president. I almost hope the corruption chain doesn't involve a poo poo load of representatives because I have no idea how our rabid conservative population would respond to their team potentially being frog marched out en masse (at least a big group of them). Of course this has almost 0% chance of happening, and Republicans will stonewall impeachment up to/past mass riots in the streets.
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Lurdiak posted:I'm laughing imagining massive riots in the streets after infinite amounts of evidence have come out and Ramirez is still making cartoons about OBAMA'S DEBT or whatever. It will be quite fun watching all the hacks like Ramirez and Garrison flail about fanatically trying to redirect the mounting evidence that Trump is the worst/one of the worst presidents we've ever had, and he's not even halfway through his first year.
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Paradoxish posted:Republicans will vote to impeach when Trump has become so toxic that his own base is turning on him. Nixon's approval had fallen into the mid-20s by the time he resigned, so I'm willing to bet that Trump's numbers are going to have to be somewhere south of there for Republicans to really see the writing on the wall and decide that cutting Trump loose will do less damage than staying tethered to him. I'm still kind of skeptical about how much the current investigation and non-stop parade of bombshells will really matter, though. Not because this stuff isn't important, but because I don't think there's much hope of silly things like facts or evidence leading to impeachment. Republicans will use those things as cover once they've already made up their minds, but they won't actually act unless the numbers are going their way. This is all crazy speculation at this point too. Who knows what the investigations will bring out it seems more than likely Pence would have to resign if he wasn't fingered as well. Seems more likely to choose a new Speaker that's "clean" to replace Trump before a hypothetical impeachment goes through.
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