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Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Da Raiders

1) Khalil Mack A+

Best player in the draft, and reigning DPOY. Struggled a bit his first season relative to how good he is now, but you could still see the talent. The numbers just weren't piling up because it seemed like he would just miss out on making the play by a hair. Second year he blew up in the second half of the season, and had something stupid like 4 sacks against the Broncos. Finished second in DPOY voting. Third year he again kicked it on later in the season, and with Watt out, he was the default DPOY. With the age difference between himself and Watt, he looks primed to spend several years as the undisputed best defensive player in the league, and if he can remain consistent, a first ballot Hall of famer.

2) Derek Carr A+

Rookie season was a tough one because the team was horrible. Had a horrible game against the Rams, but blew up against the 49ers, so it was really up and down. Second year was much improved and he really established himself as The Guy. It was pretty clear by the end of that year he was the best QB in the draft. Last season he finished as the NFL Clutch performer of the year as he led the league in 4th quarter comebacks and drug a young raiders team kicking and screaming to a 12-4 record and their first playoff berth in well over a decade. He also racked up a few MVP votes. He can make any throw, and he's not afraid to show it. Great leader, everyone loves him, and he's awesome. Quite probable he'll get an MVP award and a Super Bowl to his name before his career is done if he can stay healthy. You could easily make the argument that he's a better player than Andrew Luck, so he's an absolute steal in the 2nd.

3) Gabe Jackson A

Me and Al really wanted this guy. He blew up the combine with his strength, and unlike Raider guards of yesteryear, he plays at a level to match it. He's a true mauler, and I hope we can hold on to him. Probably got a few pro bowls in him.

-some guys-

7) TJ Carrie B

Nothing special with this guy, but the fact he's anything other than special teams at this point is pretty significant with where he was taken. Immediately came in and outplayed DJ Hayden, and has gotten quite a bit of playing time all over the Raiders very bad secondary since then. Solid depth especially because of his versatility.

The verdict

If you could redo this draft today, it wouldn't be out of the question for Mack and Carr to go 1 2. This draft built the core for a team that went from perennial bottom feeder to perennial super bowl contender. Without a doubt the best draft I've ever seen the Raiders have, and probably somewhere on the list of greatest drafts ever.

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Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Abugadu posted:

Yeah, very few GMs would risk the public blowback they'd get if the younger brother is a bust when the older one busted hard for the same team, regardless of position, but multiplied if it's a first rnd QB.

GM's that concern themselves with blowback from retards are the first to lose their jobs for sucking. What did Teddy's brother do in the NFL? How about Bortles and Manziel? Derek had more exposure to quarterbacking at an NFL level in his youth than any QB prospects in NFL history except for maybe Peyton and Eli. And those two were just little kids. Derek was playing high school and college ball with an active, experienced NFL QB a phone call away. That is an absurdly good situation that any young QB would love to be in, regardless of whether or not said QB warranted his draft selection. Mouthbreathers who think that is anything other than a huge asset should not have any sort of role whatsoever in a teams decision making process. I mean gently caress, could you imagine if the Saints passed on Peyton because Archie was trash? I sure as hell hope the Texans have a better reason than that for passing on Carr, because something that stupid should be grounds for getting fired to death and banished from football.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Intruder posted:

I vaguely remember a bunch of charts comparing Teddy, Bortles, JFF and Carr that made Carr look like a major checkdown artist.

Yeah me too. Also there was a lot of talk that he didn't do well against the blitz.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:

Just look at this 1st round.

Eric Fisher – mediocre, overpaid
Luke Joeckel – bust
Dion Jordan – injuries, suspension, bust
Lane Johnson – good player
Ezekiel Ansah – good player
Barkevious Mingo – total bust
Jonathan Cooper – injuries/bust
Tavon Austin – semi bust, might be good if used properly
Dee Milliner – bust
Chance Warmack – bust
D.J. Fluker – flukey!
D.J. Hayden – inconsistent and injured
Sheldon Richardson – good player, horrible person
Star Lotulelei – good player
Kenny Vaccaro – inconsistent
EJ Manuel – total bust
Jarvis Jones – bust
Eric Reid – inconsistent
Justin Pugh – good player
Kyle Long – good player
Tyler Eifert – always injured
Desmond Trufant – very good player
Sharrif Floyd – good
Bjoern Werner – :lol:
Xavier Rhodes – good
Datone Jones – who the gently caress even is this?
DeAndre Hopkins – elite player
Sylvester Williams – semi bust
Cordarrelle Patterson – one great year, then disappeared
Alec Ogletree – good player
Travis Frederick – excellent
Matt Elam – bust

Hayden has consistently been trash.

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