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Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Use this thread to talk about all the bad, dumb free agents your team signs or trades for. Remember that the team that wins free agency often goes on to win the Super Bowl, so this is really important ok.

Dates

The fun stuff is siren'd and bolded.

February 28-March 6 -- NFL Scouting Combine (This is when everyone discusses deals they're not allowed to make. _

March 1 -- Prior to 4:00 p.m., New York time, deadline for clubs to designate Franchise or Transition Players.

:siren: March 7-9 -- Clubs are permitted to contact, and enter into contract negotiations with the certified agents of players who will become Unrestricted Free Agents upon the expiration of their 2016 Player Contracts at 4:00 p.m., New York time, on March 9. However, a contract cannot be executed with a new club until 4:00 p.m., New York time, on March 9.:siren:

March 9 -- Prior to 4:00 p.m., New York time, clubs must exercise options for 2017 on all players who have option clauses in their 2016 contracts.

March 9 -- Prior to 4:00 p.m., New York time, clubs must submit qualifying offers to their Restricted Free Agents with expiring contracts and to whom they desire to retain a Right of First Refusal/Compensation.

March 9 -- Prior to 4:00 p.m., New York time, clubs must submit a Minimum Salary Tender to retain exclusive negotiating rights to their players with expiring 2016 contracts and who have fewer than three accrued seasons of free agency credit.

March 9 -- Top-51 Begins. All clubs must be under the 2017 salary cap prior to 4:00 p.m., New York time.

March 9 -- All 2016 player contracts will expire at 4:00 p.m., New York time.

:siren: March 9 -- The 2017 league year and free agency period begin at 4:00 p.m., New York time. :siren:

The first day of the 2017 league year will end at 11:59:59 p.m., New York time, on March 9. Clubs will receive a personnel notice that will include all transactions submitted to the league office during the period between 4:00 p.m., New York time, and 11:59:59 p.m., New York time, on March 9.

March 9 -- Trading period for 2017 begins at 4:00 p.m., New York time, after expiration of all 2016 contracts.

Free Agency Tracker
The best way to follow free agency is Twitter.

Here is a list of people who break NFL news:

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter
https://twitter.com/RapSheet
https://twitter.com/JeffDarlington
https://twitter.com/JayGlazer
https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora
https://twitter.com/MikeSilver
https://twitter.com/alexmarvez
https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo
https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer
https://twitter.com/Rand_Getlin
https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson
https://twitter.com/JasonColeBR

To keep track of what has happened so far, there are free agency trackers:

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/
https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-2017-free-agency-tracker/

Cap Tracker
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/

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Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

FizFashizzle posted:

Eric berry to the panthers

Print the shirts

Also cancel the "Julius Thomas to the Dolphins" shirts

https://twitter.com/armandosalguero/status/833726854301368323

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Intruder posted:

This is the thread where I get moist

Same

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

tarbrush posted:

A 7th in next years draft. Why fuckin' bother?

Better than nothing.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/davidcanter/status/833751364224348161


Wonder if we would explore bringing him back.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

tarbrush posted:

Would he still fit? I'm not sure what his best role is in a 4-3

He can play multiple positions and be moved around. I think he'd still fit.

Also

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/833799275775553536

May be a separate deal from the Albert one.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.


It's two separate deals.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/omarkelly/status/833802068334936065


hahahahaha he's bummed because he thought he broke this story and he was all wrong

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Amy Pole Her posted:

I don't get how you can be mad at this trade. Thomas can be penciled in as a 1b starter. With Dion Sims resigning you've got your two TE. Sims is a great blocker and strong receiver. Mediocre in athletic ability but he's produced when needed. I think Thomas can be better than Cameron on day 1.

Yeah and he took a pay cut

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article133913059.html

quote:

One of the hurdles that was overcome Monday to get Thomas to Miami was a restructuring of his contract.

Thomas originally was signed through 2019, with cap hits of $8.3 million this coming season, $9.8 million in 2018 and $10.3 million in 2019.

Those numbers have been cut signficantly, according to a league source as has the paragraph 5 salary Thomas is scheduled to earn. But Thomas will get a chance to earn back much of his money through incentives if he plays at the level he did in Denver -- something he has confidence he can do because of his past performance.

Thomas is basically betting on himself. And he’s showing the Dolphins he wants to play in Miami rather than anywhere else.

This was a key point for the Dolphins because they are focused on working deals that may not meet the top of the pay scale but still reward players that show a desire to be in Miami.

The Dolphins are also focused on rewarding their own players who already played for them rather than players new to the team. The Dolphins in the past have been known to pay incoming free agents while allowing their own players -- running back Lamar Miller and defensive Olivier Vernon, for example -- to move on to other teams.

That is changing now under Gase, general manager Chris Grier and executive vice president for football operations Mike Tannenbaum.

The team wants to keep its own players and not overpaying players that are coming in to the team this season.

The Dolphins and Jaguars continue talking about doing a deal for left tackle Branden Albert. Although that deal is close and Albert visited the Jaguars on Monday, that issue is separate and apart from the Thomas trade.

The Dolphins are expected to send the Jaguars a late 2018 draft pick in that trade.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Febreeze posted:

I mean I guess he theoretically does

I should add a note that says your team will do the exact opposite of what he says

Also

https://twitter.com/albertbreer/status/833826713167618048

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Grittybeard posted:

I'm sure that's part of it, his catch % when targeted went from ~70% his last 2 years in Denver to 57-58% in Jacksonville. But I think it's pretty possible he's just an injury prone tight end that will put up around 500 yards and be a good red zone target for you in a good year.

Still, he's a massive upgrade for Miami even with that isn't he? Haven't they been just godawful at the position for like a decade?

I long for the halcyon days of randy mcmichael

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

FizFashizzle posted:

Paul Soliali released.

whatever

Also Fat Mike.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/jeffdarlington/status/834179697315545089

https://twitter.com/jeffdarlington/status/834179832669933568

https://twitter.com/jeffdarlington/status/834180000131719169

https://twitter.com/jeffdarlington/status/834180393293209600

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/834190439691460609

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/allbrightnfl/status/834189522116165632

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/834194620674371585

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/martysaurusrex/status/834521286814613504

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/skotty_payne/status/834826470786744321

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.


why are we on this list

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

a neat cape posted:

Because Romo is better than Tannehill

if that is all it takes to be on the list then almost every team should be on the list

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

a neat cape posted:

No because he'd actually want to go to Miami

It still doesn't make sense. Miami wouldn't sit Tannehill for a diminished, fragile Romo.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.


Super high effort guy everyone loves because he tries super hard, but isn't a great player. People ran @ Mitchell a lot last year :-/

Granted, part of that was running away from Suh.



Edit: Kalli is right about the health. He was better in previous years before he was hurt.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Just a little update on Alshon

https://twitter.com/profootballtalk/status/836180285536493568

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Another thing - The rumored amount for Kenny Stills is $12m per year.

If that is true, bye Kenny :-/

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

FizFashizzle posted:

In what universe is kenny still getting 12 million a year

This is all per Armando, who is the best source for Dolphins info. The rumor is that the Eagles love Stills and are prepared to break the bank for him.

He's good, but he is not $12m per year good. I would be upset with us going over like $7m per year.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/836274292182626304

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/836276375799611392

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/836318260526268417

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/mikegarafolo/status/836331797642276864

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/836342064291827712

meanwhile, the new england patriots

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

holy crap it's more than we thought

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/836343581128323074

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

a neat cape posted:

Franchising Melvin Ingram is really loving stupid

How so, friend?

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/836623869494636544

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Every free agent is headed to the Pats every single year.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

I do not want Hightower. We need too many things to spend that much on one guy.

Same reason it's okay to let Stills walk.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/briancoz/status/836742183881441280


obviously

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/836747932611276800

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

89 posted:

Well hopefully not. If Stills was as good as he was supposed to be, then the Saints wouldn't have traded him and the Dolphins wouldn't let him walk after Year 1. I'd take him around $6 or $8 million as a WR3. But anything more is :barf:. Corey Davis/Kenny Stills/Jordan Matthews could be cool, but there's no guarantee Corey Davis is available when the Eagles pick at 14 or 15.

An older and way more talented DeSean Jackson on a cheaper deal would be a million times better than Stills on a bloated $12 million a year contract. We could probably get DeSean for $7 million even with him only having maybe another 2 good years left. Stills is just Treggs all over again. One big play and then disappears for the rest of the season.

I remember that time Chip wouldn't pay Maclin $11 million.

But, to be fair, if we had retained Maclin, we would have won 4 or 5+ more games, probably made the playoffs one extra year and would have never landed Wentz with Chip Kelly getting cut so :shrug:

Stills has been in Miami for 2 years FWIW

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/837322121105784833

Makes me think the Eagles might not feel good about Stills negotiations

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Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

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https://twitter.com/schadjoe/status/837384153385615361

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