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I don't really have a pony pick, but Sierra is definitely my poision. I can't believe they are bringing her back again, when she's done nothing of note in either of her previous appearances. Replacing the casting directors is probably the easiest change the show could make in terms of cost to benefit. The show would be incredible without all the mactors who've never watched Survivor.
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Lone Goat posted:Do you mean Ciera? Because Sierra has only been on one season. I do indeed!
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Feb 26, 2017 21:01
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Yeah, people are always down on Boston Rob because it "took him four tries to win".... not really.
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Feb 27, 2017 13:45
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Mar 9, 2017 02:27
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DurosKlav posted:I know its not cool and all but Andrea is the only survivor where every moment she's on screen I'm It's hard to tell how much is editing, but her seeming to instantly pick up on how it affects strategy is cool.
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Hahaha, "calm and collective" call back.
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Mar 9, 2017 03:05
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xbilkis posted:"I can't lose all the challenges and win Survivor!" He can't lose all the challenges and win Survivor, even if Denise can.
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Mar 9, 2017 03:36
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xbilkis posted:Denise and Malcolm played pretty much identical premerge games and Malcolm hosed up at the end It's the internet, we're being pedantic.
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Mar 9, 2017 03:47
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Max posted:Either the editors sucked or she just wasn't an interesting character but was a good player. Or Survivor has a extremely high degree of chance where players of low skill can occasionally win, and the better players can be felled by something they had no way to forsee or counter (bad initial tribe situations, unlucky swaps, random people deciding to get rid of them because of a "feeling", chance immunity outcomes). Because as much as I love Survivor, the game mechanics don't push the best to succeed. One of the biggest sources of randomness in the game is the pressure on players to "not be a threat". One can make the argument that being a threat while not appearing to be one is a key skill to winning the game, but more often than not it involves the ultimate winner making a bunch of accidental missteps that mean they aren't the biggest target at any given time. A big reason Adam was able to win last season was that he lucked into loving up at just the right time, with the jar thing and generally getting on peoples nerves (but not to the point that they booted him for it), hiding him among players who hadn't hosed up as much and were thus "bigger targets". Otherwise great players can not have the fortune of accidentally loving up at the right time, and get targeted as threats. If you don't ever piss people off, you're a "social threat". Which people don't really take seriously (though they should). But if a "social threat" who hasn't pissed anyone off does, like, anything that is seen as a "move", they'll instantly become targeted as a big threat. So it's totally possible that Michele lucked into winning, despite not being good at Survivor. It really depends on how conscious she was of how others would be perceived; if it's clear that everyone hates everyone, sitting back and floating into the final because "everyone can beat you" when in reality the hatred everyone has means that any game players won't win, well then it's a valid strategy. As Sandra has demonstrated twice. Someone who understands this can win, even if they don't grasp the wider strategic concepts of Survivor. Mildly goating yourself has always been the optimal strategy in Survivor because you can get other people to want to take you to the end which eliminates so much of the effects of the randomness, which means pretty good money (since Survivor pays its high place finishers pretty well), and a chance of actually winning the thing after all if all the game players actually hosed up just a bit too much (resulting in everyone hating them, and giving you, the goat, the money). Every other strategy involves, at some point in the game, leaving things up to chance (because otherwise you're playing too hard), and things can go either way. Arcanen fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Mar 14, 2017 |
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Mar 14, 2017 03:28
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I really dislike the 2 tribes to 3 tribes swaps that have been happening so often recently. The tribe that ends up having to start anew gets completely hosed over, and it reduces interesting tribe dynamics to "that person wasn't on our original tribe that we had for 2 days, GET THEM!!!" pagongings for the subsequent 5 or 6 boots. I generally dislike tribe swaps for the randomness they introduce (at least do it in a way that is less random and less likely to end up with unbalanced teams, like each pick has to subsequently pick someone from the other initial tribe), but the 2 to 3 has got to be the worst swap dynamic.
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Mar 17, 2017 01:17
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Adus posted:the troyzan idol thing got me thinking. has there actually ever been a time where someone was swapped into a minority but found an idol and got someone else voted out with a vote of 1? i can't seem to think of any occurrences of this. It's not in anyone's best interest to ever let this happen. If someone is literally on their own with an idol, they know they're going to be targeted. It's much better in that situation to say "hey, I have an idol, who wants to align with me" and try to fracture the group targeting them than it is to try and make a surprise idol play and be the sole opposing vote.
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Mar 18, 2017 19:53
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Nexal posted:Interesting scenario if troyzan pulls idol in play and the votes go 3 on him 1 on someone else and 1 someone other. Can't troyzan force the remaining 2 voters to go for rocks? Yes, which is why (assuming people play rationally, which...) he can potentially split the tribe quite dramatically, because people have an incentive to go along with his vote.
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Mar 18, 2017 20:26
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blue squares posted:Anyone planning on watching Amazing Race tonight? I like the fact that all the teams are strangers before the race Thanks for this heads up. I got into Amazing Race before Survivor, but got incredibly sick of all the team based stunt casting and haven't watched for a couple of years. More hopeful after this first episode than in a handful of seasons.
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Apr 1, 2017 04:20
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It's a shame that the "Game Changers" theme of the season seems to involve more many more twists than are necessary. Twists put Big Brother on a lower strategic level than Survivor, and it's a huge shame to see them here with such prominence. Malcolm and Sandra getting eliminated because of a twist and unnecessarily frequent and random tribe swaps lowers the quality of the season. I understand that twists were used throughout both shows' history to be able to draw in extra viewers "watching tonight... FOR THE BIG TWIST/GAME CHANGER!!!". But does this sort of advertising really effect viewership of a show in its 34th season?
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Apr 6, 2017 14:40
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Holy poo poo. "My trans friends", he says, as he outs someone while saying that Zeke being transgender is a deception. It became clear that Varner had "misread" the room, and was apologizing profusely for that. But I don't buy that he actually understand what he did was wrong, because he kept pushing the deception thing. What an rear end in a top hat.
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Varner's "strategic reasons" or thinking that Zeke was already out based on the previous season don't mean poo poo. As Zeke himself said, Varner using Zeke's trans status as being evidence of "capability for deception" is seriously transphobic and just as bad if not worse than the fact that he outed Zeke on national TV without his permission.
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Capsaicin posted:It really sounds like a lovely thing that a person did without thinking. I don't think Varner is as malicious as it came off. I think the shittier takes are those by Corinne, Hantz, and Ice Cream Eric on twitter. Outing someone on Survivor in an intense moment could be a spur of the moment bad decision. But Varner was clearly planning to do it before the tribal (given that he told the camera he knew a secret of Zeke's etc), so he had plenty of time to think about it. But even if it was a spur of moment decision to out Zeke, he straight-up said that being trans was a deception. That's not a spur of the moment fuckup, that's a poisonous worldview From Zeke in his People interview http://people.com/tv/survivor-transgender-contestant-zeke-smith-outed-tv-exclusive/ quote:“I think he hoped others would believe that trans people are dangerous and fraudulent. That reasoning is infinitely worse than him outing me because it’s the same one used to discriminate against, attack and murder trans people,” Smith says.
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sportsgenius86 posted:If they wanted a former survivor to host, the first person they'd ask would almost certainly be Colby. Boston Rob?
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Apr 14, 2017 22:46
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Bolivar posted:Do I remember correctly that no one knows for sure that Tai has even one idol (let alone two)?. Aside from oh-so-correct remarks from other contestants that he is ridiculously good at finding idols. I think in some ways that "is good at finding idols" actually means "is so bad socially that they don't get it's not ok to blatantly spend a lot of time searching for idols".
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Apr 18, 2017 11:23
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In a general sense, I think there's a reason that people who are up against the wall often manage a last-minute idol find: they throw caution to the wind and blatantly go searching. It's obviously a lot easier to find an idol when you're caring less about being discovered. I think people who have a reputation for being "good at finding idols" are people who don't have that caution in the first place, and are blatant about their searching from the get-go. They find lots of idols, but they don't grasp how it makes them look sketchy in the game, socially. They tend to be people with other huge social game flaws. Tai, Tony (I still don't quite understand how he won...), Russell.
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Apr 18, 2017 11:39
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The most confusing thing is that we got a Zeke confessional where he said he understood he was overplaying "but whatevz!".
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Apr 20, 2017 02:30
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"Getting cute" with the votes is one of the silliest things that overplayers are prone to doing. Vote for people you want gone. Don't vote for people you want to stay. Voting the way you want, and they lying about it (if that is necessary for some reason) is almost always going to be better than voting for someone strictly so the vote numbers look a certain way, because it can end up screwing you in a game when everyone is potentially lying.
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Apr 20, 2017 03:16
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Piell posted:Everyone who has played back to back plays exactly the same game both timea, because they haven't seen themselves from the outside point of view and haven't had enough time to think about it. Counterpoint, Aubry? I don't think Zeke gets a pass here, because he understood it was what got him out last game, verbalised that, then decided to do it anyway. That said, it COULD inadvertantly help him, if he survives a couple more votes. Making a huge mistake, but surviving it, is a helpful factor in ultimately winning. Adam messed up pretty badly a couple of times, and that's ultimately how he could win, because he became a smaller target when he needed to.
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Apr 22, 2017 18:24
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Oops, weird brain moment there thinking Aubry and Zeke were on the same season.
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Apr 22, 2017 19:49
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:How would nobody see Sarah swim to the other platform and think nothing of it? lol I think everyone else went into the boat and couldn't see her?
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Apr 27, 2017 01:21
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I think "ok, no one goes home, but next tribal, 2 people are going" is the best way to respond to such a situation. It's not a twist for its own sake, since it's in response to a strange situation, and everyone would have adequate preparation to figure out how to deal with it. But it would cause some interesting voting dynamics.
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May 7, 2017 13:53
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SweetJahasus posted:I almost want to see some Genius-esque Supreme Ways moment where they've been working together the whole time to get to yet another finale together where they can take another shot at the victory. *Ideotape Melodie starts playing. "Shall we go together... to the finals" *clasps hands. * Intro begins. God I miss the Genius. This is the threads seasonal reminder to go watch all 4 seasons of the Genius (and season 1 of society game), since it's on a strategic level Survivor can never hope to achieve due to its casting (of smarter people), challenge structure (of vastly more complicated games), and voting mechanics (which don't incentivize playing "below the radar", because getting rid of a strong player requires a direct 1v1 challenge vs that person). Arcanen fucked around with this message at 14:40 on May 9, 2017 |
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I'm not sure what's more mind boggling, Sierra telling someone in an oppossing alliance that she has a power in the game that will get willed to that person if she's voted out, or Sarah not immediately realising that she should vote her out because of it.
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May 11, 2017 01:05
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Candy Crush? Are you serious?
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May 11, 2017 01:26
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These are much better than the standard endurance tests, because there's an element of strategy in how much exertion is put keeping things stable, and that trades off against long-term endurance. Then there's the ability to compensate purely through balance and skill. So much better than "how long can you hold onto this thing".
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May 11, 2017 01:39
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gif Probst posted:me too considering how strong his first few episodes were. I can see that being because Jeff felt that Brad got done in by the edit last go around, and wanted to make viewers like him more. Doesn't have to have anything to do with how far he goes.
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May 13, 2017 14:47
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Someone needs an extreme ways flashback to explain wtf just went down.
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May 18, 2017 01:58
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Rick posted:This is great. Poor Aubrey. I think it's more of an "alliance" than an alliance. It's been vastly more successful at getting its own members out than the opposing alliance.
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May 19, 2017 12:37
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Superanos posted:The production really needs to calm down with the constant dumb twists. Speaking of productions calming down with dumb twists, Big Brother Canada season 5 (which just finished this week) is worth watching precisely because they did so (with one exception that's revealed right at the beginning of the season). They've always had quite good casting, but were hampered by the constant twists.
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May 20, 2017 14:45
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It was a great season we want people to watch, spoiler tags might be appropriate?
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May 21, 2017 12:51
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There is no logic, Tai is not a thinker.
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May 25, 2017 01:15
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:gently caress. This was a poor week to miss 20 minutes of. Signup for a trial of Hulu livetv, watch from the beginning. You'll catchup through breaks and the first 5 mins being recap.
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Bigass Moth posted:Tai is such an awful
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May 25, 2017 02:35
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:They are focusing on Outwit, Outplay, Outlast but nothing has really changed? Explicitly having an "Outlast" segment seems like a way to encourage juries to not be bitter?
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Do we know who the third Brad vote was? Andrea seemed pretty bitter?
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