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Red_Fred posted:I've always known that Italian cars are hilariously unreliable and strangely designed. Is this still the case? Why is/has that been the case? But in their heyday, Italian cars could be unreliable but still a dream to drive and worth the headache. New cars are lightyears more reliable than something from the 80s or before. But I also wouldn't be surprised if a Giulia ends up being more trouble and higher TOC than a BMW. I'm gonna try to get an Integrale Evo someday... someday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiwaZ9SD6-A&t=10s
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2017 07:32 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 03:26 |
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I'm drooling: http://www.evo.co.uk/news/19684/jay-kays-lancia-delta-integrale-comes-up-for-sale Watch that video if you aren't familiar with the Integrale Evo -- shows a few of the special bits.
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2017 03:47 |
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http://jalopnik.com/the-alfa-romeo-giulia-is-the-perfect-unreliable-italian-1796883384
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2017 07:13 |
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He makes a lot of good points (and gets quoted in the other article), but he doesn't double down on the fact that teething pains or not, new cars can never have the character that old cars will. Like if the car performed flawlessly, would it be able to recapture the brand spirit in a Spider or GTV?
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2017 08:09 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:He does mention that no modern car can match up to the older stuff, but it is kind of a throwaway line. I know he wrote that; I'm just saying that he's positioning his argument to mean that if the Giulia were trouble free, then it would really capture people's imagination in a way that other cars can't. He wants the car to be well made, but that doesn't necessarily get it to where it needs to be.
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2017 14:21 |
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The Fulvia is incredible stylish but the prices people seem willing to pay are way higher than what the car is, yeah. It'd better drive incredibly. It's that kind of rare where I've never experienced what it feels like, like most vintage Italian cars.
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2017 14:44 |
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Look who's making moves on an Integrale! https://bringatrailer.com/member/kpflynn/
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2017 04:45 |
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How can they port that exhaust to the 300?
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2017 15:13 |
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https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-fiat-124-spider-pininfarina/ Good comment: "I credit my 124 Spider’s workshop manual and wiring diagram with my passing knowledge of Italian … nero, azzuro, verde, bianco, not to mention the gauges with benzina and olio"
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2017 05:53 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:edit: panasports blow on Italian cars, cromodora supremacy bitches They don't look quite right, but only the 4 spoke Cromodoras would work on that 124, which it doesn't really to be said, looks light years better than the tribute of the modern 124.
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2017 21:54 |
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Do they interfere with each other?
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# ¿ Nov 30, 2017 03:05 |
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They don't make fun enough of its typical Italian car origin story: https://jalopnik.com/this-alfa-was-dropped-by-a-tow-truck-and-then-it-became-1820805337
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# ¿ Nov 30, 2017 19:53 |
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Holy moly: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-lancia-stratos/
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2017 18:30 |
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Kyoon, what did you think of this one, quality to price wise? https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-lancia-fulvia-2/
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2017 05:38 |
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MrOnBicycle posted:Also, part of the charm is that it isn't too expensive right now to drive comfortably. As long as you maintain it, you'll be able to enjoy it without worrying about the long term costs -- there'll always be some money to recoup when you sell it. Comrade Flynn bought one of the Delta Integrales on BaT, and the 3 or 4 Delta guys who post on every listing have really made me want to get one. Despite all of CT's warnings on how it doesn't handle well, that exhaust sounds killer.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2018 19:22 |
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DoLittle posted:and maybe look in to steering column extenders. That was the number one thing that took my 348 from awkward to drive to sublime -- a 25mm steering wheel spacer.
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2018 20:12 |
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Completely unfair, as it's parked outside a shop, but I love that in this random news clip, an Integrale has its hood up and a service van in front of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPKY1pFyqu8&t=123s
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2018 05:26 |
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Cholmondeley posted:I've had mine for nearly a year, with no real issues, and it's a blast to own and drive. I've heard there were some software glitches on some of the early models, but I think they've been fixed. Makes you wonder if the loaners they gave journos was a total lemon, and if the continued stigma could have been avoided by swapping a few cars out.
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2018 00:40 |
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Saw a pretty clean X1/9 running around in Cambridge today and I fist-pumped. Glad to see it moving and not rusting away somewhere.
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# ¿ Jun 7, 2018 02:46 |
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gently caress. Yeah. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1975-ferrari-308-gt4-5/
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2018 18:26 |
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Sten Freak posted:That's sweet but of all the Ferarri engines they chose the one with the absurdly low timing belt interval? I assume so -- make sure all the subframe bolts are exposed and just drop the rear half when you do services.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2018 20:26 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 03:26 |
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Sten Freak posted:I sent that link to my uncle (a 348ts owner once like you) and mentioned the engine and he said something like I was nervous anytime I ran it up to 7k rpm because of the timing belt, sold that car and never looked back. I guess if it's a young belt it's good to go but the short life doesn't inspire confidence. Yours blew under mileage but over-life right?
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2018 20:43 |