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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Automotive Insanity > The Fabulous Italian Automobile Thread
 
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Gamesguy
Sep 7, 2010

 Anybody here have a Ghibli? I'm getting a new car soon and I'm seriously considering one. Doug Demuro's video notwithstanding, my understanding is the 17 model is supposed to be significantly improved from the 14 models that the press reviewed?

Gamesguy fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Oct 30, 2017

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Gamesguy
Sep 7, 2010

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

why in the gently caress do you want a sixty K chrysler 300 you can buy 2 chrysler 300 for the same price

I am an Italian car apologist and the Ghibli is an unforgivable sin. At least the Alfasud was cheap. I've driven one. The engine is kind of nice. The exterior styling is decent. The interior is Chrysler partsbin if you know where to look but con stile italano. Every other car in its class is better than it at everything except being Italian and having exterior styling.

Upside they depreciate like loving rocks so you can get a used one for like six bucks

I cross-shopped it with the E43/540i/XF-S and it's significantly cheaper than the e43. The Jag is the cheapest but I've driven two different Jag loaners and it has the most buggy infotainment system on the planet and still doesn't have android auto.

The 540i costs a bit more and has nicer interior and tech but I'm just not really into it. It's also slower.

Forgot to mention I need a lease for tax reasons, and sticker price often bears no relation to lease cost.

Gamesguy fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Oct 30, 2017

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Gamesguy
Sep 7, 2010

SlowBloke posted:

Keep in mind that electrical/electronic issues are more likely with the Ghibli than the BMW, and if you are not in continental europe, spare parts may take a while to reach you. Hell I live in :italy: and still would have second thoughts at buying a Maserati due to mainteinance expenses/downtime.

Well, I live only a couple of miles from a Maserati dealer and as long as they give me a loaner it shouldn't be a problem. Maintenance wise it's about the same as my current car.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

if you want an Italian sedan you might as well just get a Giulia QV, it's all the same problems with way more of the fun
Dude the Quadrifoglio and the Ghibli s aren't even remotely in the same price range. The Quadrifoglio costs twice as much...I can lease a freaking Panamera turbo or a E63/M6 for that price.

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Gamesguy
Sep 7, 2010

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

Giulia QV: $70,000 base MSRP
Ghibli S: $78,000 base MSRP

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Giulia QV: $78k MSRP, total 3 year/10k lease cost ~70k with tax
Ghibli S: $83k MSRP, total 3 year/10k lease cost ~28k with tax

Those are actual, real quotes. The QV leases extremely poorly due to a total lack of dealer discounts, a very low RV, and zero lease support from Alfa resulting in a ridiculous MF. It is quite possibly the worst car to lease on the planet.

Gamesguy fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Oct 31, 2017

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