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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition?
This poll is closed.
Jeremy Corbyn 95 18.63%
Dennis Skinner 53 10.39%
Angus Robertson 20 3.92%
Tim Farron 9 1.76%
Paul Ukips 7 1.37%
Robot Lenin 105 20.59%
Tony Blair 28 5.49%
Pissflaps 193 37.84%
Total: 510 votes
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Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun

Pistol_Pete posted:

defected to Ukip [from Tories]

a genuine point of principle

doubtful

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Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun

Well, Corbyn exists, so

Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun

Parents should teach their children life skills like taxation, except lots of parents have a shaky grasp of those things and don't really have the time or ability to teach them well anyway.

Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun

If the PLP thought Corbyn was such a poor candidate they wouldn't have given him the nominations that let him run. The turn came when it seemed like the token leftie might actually win, which would shatter the triangulation consensus that had dominated the party to that point.

I would take the idea of the PLP as experts on winning elections protecting the party from itself more seriously if they showed any, y'know, success in winning the party's internal elections.

Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun

Pissflaps posted:

Every member of the PLP succeeded in being elected a member of parliament.

So did Corbyn.

Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun

Pissflaps posted:

He should stick to doing that.

I'm glad we established the PLP is no particular authority on winning elections, and in fact has had less success than Corbyn.

Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun

Fangz posted:

Because if we don't get to the stage where we can tell each other that even if there is disagreements, at least Labour candidates mean well and should be trusted, then we will never be able to make the case to ordinary voters that they should vote Labour.

But a number of Labour MPs have proven they don't mean well and can't be trusted. Getting rid of these people shouldn't be considered some kind of failure state.

Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun

Perhaps if the PLP had gotten to the stage where they could tell each other that even if there are disagreements, Corbyn means well and should be trusted, we wouldn't be in this mess.

Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun

Fangz posted:

Do you people really prefer I didn't post here? Because, okay.

Post what you like, where you like, but most people aren't a fan of disingenuousness - and that extends to pretending that this kind of response is 'personal'.

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Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun

lol if you think any of us will make it to retirement age

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