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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition?
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Jeremy Corbyn 95 18.63%
Dennis Skinner 53 10.39%
Angus Robertson 20 3.92%
Tim Farron 9 1.76%
Paul Ukips 7 1.37%
Robot Lenin 105 20.59%
Tony Blair 28 5.49%
Pissflaps 193 37.84%
Total: 510 votes
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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Boy, do I have the thing for you.

Also seriously, gently caress everybody who was involved in getting ChestEze pulled.

Also whiskey, honey, lemon, boiling water.

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Guavanaut
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Pissflaps posted:

I heard that lemsip, honey and a big glug of whisky is efficacious though being tee total I haven't had it myself.
The big caution with that is that Lemsip is mostly paracetamol, which shouldn't be regularly taken together with alcohol, and is mostly in there for fever and aches, it won't do much for a cough.

The active ingredient in there for your cough is phenylephrine, which has never really been shown to be active orally, but they pulled all the ephedrine-containing cold medicines because a couple of are boyes OD'd for a training course trying to increase their stamina and lung capacity despite the huge black box saying never do that.

I prefer just lemon.

efb

Guavanaut
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Or J Collis Browne's Mixture, which is the same thing but morphine. And peppermint. Some Boots' still carry it.

Both are preferred for dry coughs than productive ones though.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Who on the left wants milquetoast social democrats to be portrayed as left-wing extremists other than other milquetoast social democrats who want to play revolutionary?

Have any other science men like internationally respected bioethicist Dickard Dorkins weighed in on this?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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mfcrocker posted:

Just saying, I'm not sure why I should give a toss about what he thinks of the state of the Labour party :shrug:
Isn't his latest thing some Big Yud obsession with AI being the singularity GodSatan or something?

That's better than James Watson's gay abortions and African intelligence stuff as old man with an audience comments go, but still.

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namesake posted:

It's because everyone to the left of Angela Merkel gets described as leftwing by at least one newspaper so from a societal level it's literally true than no one knows (or agrees) what it means.
Yeah but Corbyn is Hard Left, because he wants to scrap nukes like Mao and Stalin.

e: 1930 - Mao Zedong's second wife is executed because of grammar schools.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 12:23 on Mar 7, 2017

Guavanaut
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I just got this as a promoted post thing:


I'm not sure what it is, looks like one of those things they use to generate analytic profiles as were alleged to be used in the referendum and US election.

I took a quick look and the questions are along the lines of "how worried about a terror attack against the country/you" and "how worried are you about being injured in a car crash" followed by four brain-teaser/Bayesian statistical riddles, so it seems fairly transparent what narrative they're trying to push, followed by a survey which is just "Are Muslims encrypting immigrants on the dark webs?" type stuff, but 3 and 8 are the same.

Guavanaut
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Private Speech posted:

6 out of 8 of those options are completely and utterly idiotic on a fundamental level, but somehow from what you said I get the impression that most people don't pick the duplicate one.

Hurrah for the great and glorious public.
I'm not even sure what direction they're going for though. Like having the statistical brain teasers directly after the 'how worried about terrorism' and 'how worried about a car crash' questions implies that they're selecting for people who consider themselves statistically aware, and then they follow it up with some idiotic questions.

Who is that even for? Smug 'rationalists' who like to use the word sheeple unironically? Internet nerdlords who think all social problems can be solved with badly-applied Bayes? Or is it genuinely trying to prove a link between authoritarian silliness and innumeracy?

If it's the latter, what are they then proposing we do? Move away from authoritarian methods because they're logically unsound even though it will make the Express scream? Or replace statistics in schools with Goveathonics for Academies so that more people will be on board with those kind of measures? Or (more likely) just selling that data to anyone that wants to push for either of those.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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big scary monsters posted:

It's actually bad that scientists don't want to engage in politics and think that their work is somehow apolitical. I suspect that senior scientists generally trying to avoid taking a stance that can be seen as political and being unwilling to comment publicly on policy even when it relates to their specialism is a part of what has led to experts being seen as untrustworthy and every person's opinion as good as any other. Science isn't any more insulated from politics and society in general than anything else, and it's a dangerous delusion that scientists allow themselves to believe it is. We have this huge pool of experts who dedicate their entire lives to studying topics that have huge impacts on our daily lives. Yet as soon as some idiot politician who knows nothing about anything but where the bodies are buried in Westminster opens their mouths, suddenly all these experts start staring at their feet and mumbling "well of course there are two sides to every story" and pretending that the real world and their pet area of study are comfortably separate domains that only overlap on their funding proposals.

I don't say that Hawking should necessarily start spouting on the best way to address unemployment in rural Wales, but I do feel that it'd be good if more scientists were willing to follow the lead of Prof. Nutt and actively and publicly lobby for policy to follow science within their field rather than throw up their hands and claim to be apart from the whole sordid mess.
Scientists commenting within their area of expertise is a good thing, and we should have more evidence based policy. And also have some idea of what is good evidence and what is quackery.

We should also be aware that the evidence will only tell you whether something is likely to work or not, not whether the thing you want to do is a good thing or not. So philosophers of science should also be given a platform. There was an interesting public lecture recently that argued for teaching ethics and phil. of sci. alongside the sciences in schools. We should also have more input from social scientists, while at the same time admitting that their models may be both useful but culture or standpoint bound.

The problem comes when you grant a bully pulpit to people whose main achievement has been a lifetime of study and achievement in a highly detailed area of the sciences (usually a 'real science') and they gain celebrity smartperson status, which too often turns into 'old white Oxbridge man tells us all about the Muslims' or 'this neurosurgeon has some theories about slavery'.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Regarde Aduck posted:

He'll be writing 5000 word polemics about why the EM-drive could never work and how we're never leaving this planet and how truly awe inspiring it is that we're all going to live meaningless lives in a universe destined for heat death before you know it.
Living a life without inherent meaning can be fun or awe inspiring if you take the right approach to it.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Brexit could be the biggest charitable reparation to Africa and the Levant in history, the biggest problem is that it had to be wrapped in 'Turkmen!' and 'Our Sovreignity!' to get it passed.

The only articles I saw through the whole referendum campaign even talking about this angle outside of anarchist publications with readerships in the dozens was something about the CAP and knock on effects on sub-Saharan Africa by Zambian economist Dambisa Moyo, something in the back of the Graun from one of the two Lib-Dem Leave MPs, and a couple of pieces in ThisIsAfrica about how the EU operates a Eurocentric Neocolonial foreign trade policy.

Even then I only found those through occasionally reading those publications, nothing like that came up in the mainstream debate. Even Lexit was mainly talking about how the EU is bad for the British left and British workers.

They could even have lied, like they did about the money for the NHS, or Turkey joining before Euro 2020. They could have tugged at the heartstrings of daytime television watchers. "This is Thandi. She is 8. She doesn't have clean drinking water because the EU stole it all to wash Francois Hollande's filthy ballsack." But they didn't, it was entirely a campaign of Us! Our stuff! Control! Them! Bad!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Darth Walrus posted:

That's literally where Britain First came from.
And on that topic:

OwlFancier posted:

I invariably play a pretty good character in every RPG but I like ones that give you the option to be a dickhead because a game that railroads you to being nice doesn't really connect as well as games where you elect to be nice. That's sort of an aspect of the medium, that the player has agency, and what separates it from a linear narrative and facilitates its ability to communicate with the player.

Guavanaut posted:

There's an anti-radicalization CYOA where no matter what you do your character becomes more and more fash ... I think it's part of Saatchi's anti far right campaign. I can't find it anywhere now though.
I found it, I found the 'interactive' video experience where the nazi leader hides out in your house to make dank memes and they bring an Orangeman in to teach you to set a bottle on fire.

https://openyoureyestohate.com/

I also like how the URL appeares to be something-something-yes-to-hate at first reading.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Kokoro Wish posted:

The main character is literally raped by a school uniform in the first episode.
My immediate D&D thought is that this is some kind of political statement, like how dress codes are used as an excuse to assault and harass women, and also uniforms are a hierarchical form of oppression that often hard code the idea of gender into an institution, therefore the rape by the uniform is symbolic of the trauma all women face under patriarchy.

Then I remembered we're discussing bad anime and not bad 2nd waver lit, so it probably grows tentacles or something. idk/care

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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I wonder how much of that is deliberate large scale business fraud and how much is the cumulative effect of 3/4 of Chinese eBay/AliExpress/DX sellers valuing everything at $5 on the form.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Pissflaps posted:





Sorry everyone Imgur is awful now and getting the image URL is apparently not something they want you to do in their app
What was it supposed to be?

I tried looking it up by URI and got this:


Is it this?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Lunar Suite posted:

Considering the other member state have successfully tackled the problem according to the linked article, I don't think it's an unfeasible "death of a thousand cuts" situation.
It's possible that the other member states don't believe the Port of Guangzhou as often when a smartphone comes through with a customs sticker for $5, or they have better funded customs departments to detect that kind of thing.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Jedit posted:

Now taking wagers that barring a snap GE we'll be back to 4 million unemployed by the time May is done.
As in Theresa or as in before June?

I could be persuaded to believe either.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Seaside Loafer posted:

So in summery people don't want to do lovely service sector job with no prospects, heavens hold the front page ...
Maybe they should make the service sector jobs good jobs with dignity and fair wages and then people will want to do them.

What they will actually do is keep them lovely and fill them with workfare staff.

:capitalism:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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crispix posted:

They do have an online cyber-shop but they have taken down all the really tacky ornaments they used to sell on it. :( It used to be like an extremely dark St Patrick's day stall.
Do they sell plastic bath ducks with ducky ar la written on the side?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Namtab posted:

Haha like any paper would publish a corbyn op-ed
Morning Star counts, right?

OwlFancier posted:

I wish he'd say gently caress more.
Who is he going to tell to gently caress more?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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forkboy84 posted:

This is my favourite rage-inducing stat. Sure, wages are stagnant in ways not seen since before the Highland Clearances
Then obviously the solution is to steal even more of the commons and murder some people who are insufficiently British again. :torysay:

Guavanaut
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MikeCrotch posted:

Meanwhile Alistair Heath in the Telegraph is screeching at a level that only dogs can hear:
Is that a dogwhistle? It sounds more like an air-raid siren going 'Further Right, Further Right'.

Guavanaut
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OwlFancier posted:

Isn't that what pisspots are for?

E: As in, PSPOs.
Yup, that's exactly what they're for. To pass fines for things that aren't illegal but that the council doesn't like, such as rough sleeping, sleeping in a vehicle, using offensive language, loitering in groups of three or more, urinating in a public convenience, etc. etc. and then criminalizing nonpayment of the fines.

Which sounds like a surefire route to selective enforcement and a street to prison pipeline for the homeless that is about 3x as expensive as just getting them a house and paying for their basic needs.

Guavanaut
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baka kaba posted:

I wasn't really thinking of TV, unless you mean Question Time
Smug Young Conservative Juror: Look, the good taxpayers of this country are spending their money on these unelected judges and all they're doing is picking random people off the street to do their work for them. It's fiscally irresponsible.
Angry Thumb Man Juror: We're taking time out of our day and all the prosecution and defence are doing is arguing with each other, they should just find the criminals and lock 'em up. It's all gone soft.
Sobbing Woman in Dock: When I voted Conservative to Ban This Sick Filth I didn't think they were going to come after me.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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OwlFancier posted:

GET YE FLASK
THE PLP appears before you.

You cannot get YE FLASK.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Skinty McEdger posted:

I read the Daily Mail's coverage of the budget while I was sat on a delayed train today. Predictably enough they came to the conclusion that Corbyn was to blame for it being bad because his weak opposition had given Hammond reason to be complacent and think he could get away with anything.
By freelance journalist Labia Euphemism.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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It sounds a lot like what Leave campaigners said to Asians in the Midlands before immediately turning round and saying no it won't to the whites.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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#ukgoons

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Yeah, 50p isn't really that high historically speaking if it's only on people who are that wealthy. And that's only on the margin.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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If only we could have the economic liberalism and the social authoritarianism, just like the early Prods, thinks Gove while repeatedly declaring that the truth is in the middle of his arsecheeks.

MikeCrotch posted:

Probably something along the lines of "amusing idiot" with that picture of him meeting Saddam Hussein attached
This but this.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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jBrereton posted:

*this guy shakes his fist while critically examining both the illiberalism of protestant land/asset seizures and attempts at a more egalitarian society by the female Protestants such as Katarina Zell whose writing on religion in and of itself was revolutionary and is still truly unwelcome in the catholic-influenced faiths including the CofE to some extent*
Land and asset seizures for the benefit of the capital class is perfectly compatible with economic liberalism, but yes, I'm sure Gove was thinking about women's lib when he was criticizing Theresa May for thinking too much of the social good like a Papist and that we need to act more like buccaneers.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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feedmegin posted:

I do like that Galloway is something apparently all of us itt can agree on without controversy.
It's because he manages to be so multifacetedly bad. It's like the five blind men grabbing the elephant only they're all of different political inclinations and the elephant is a twat.

Excited for his pirate book tho.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Maybe he just likes Asses.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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I'm sure if you make the right noises you can have him eating out of your hand.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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But Iran is #2 in the world for gender reassignment therapy. Why do you hate the Islamic Republic George? Why do you make Ali Khamenei cry so?

Guavanaut
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quote:

She hates the idea that politics is just a game, which is what she suspects the Cameroons have always believed.

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Hoops posted:

Devils advocate then - isn't it easier for the left to succeed in one isolated country that is not interdependent with right wing governments than it is to succeed in five or six countries at the same time? It's easier to move an island nation to the left than move a whole continent.
Undoubtedly the question of the victory of Socialism in one country, in this case our country, has two different sides. The first side of the question of the victory of Socialism in our country embraces the problem of the mutual relations between classes in our country. This concerns the sphere of internal relations.

Can the working class of our country overcome the contradictions with our peasantry and establish an alliance, collaboration with them? Can the working class of our country, in alliance - with our peasantry, smash the bourgeoisie of our country, deprive it of the land, factories, mines, etc., and by its own efforts build a new, classless society, complete Socialist society?

Such are the problems that are connected with the first side of the question of the victory of Socialism in our country. Leninism answers these problems in the affirmative.

Lenin teaches us that "we have all that is necessary for the building of a complete Socialist society." Hence we can and must, by our own efforts, overcome our bourgeoisie and build Socialist society.

Trotsky, Zinoviev, Kamenev, and those other gentlemen who later became spies and agents of fascism, denied that it was possible to build Socialism in our country unless the victory of the Socialist revolution was first achieved in other countries, in capitalist countries. As a matter of fact, these gentlemen wanted to turn our country back to the path of bourgeois development and they concealed their apostasy by hypocritically talking about the "victory of the revolution" in other countries.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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We know there were plenty of Did Not Votes who came out to vote Leave, but was there anyone who voted in 2015 who didn't vote at all in the Referendum? Even just enough to make up 1% for one of the parties?

Other than General China, who drew a cat.

Guavanaut
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baka kaba posted:

He's going to be showered with gold by the private sector for services rendered
I hope someone pisses on him. Unless he enjoys it.

baka kaba posted:

I think the markets can provide a service solution for this conundrum, friend. Step forward, Atos! G4S! Capita! And whatever the 4th horseman is these days
Serco?

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jBrereton posted:

Alternatively he shouldn't have held one because do you really need to sort out internal party discipline when you don't end up with the hung parliament most people predicted? No.
Got him an extra 14 months of power, half of which was clouded by allegations of piggery, tho. Worth it.

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