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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition?
This poll is closed.
Jeremy Corbyn 95 18.63%
Dennis Skinner 53 10.39%
Angus Robertson 20 3.92%
Tim Farron 9 1.76%
Paul Ukips 7 1.37%
Robot Lenin 105 20.59%
Tony Blair 28 5.49%
Pissflaps 193 37.84%
Total: 510 votes
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Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

ronya posted:

E L E C T A B I L I T Y

I dunno. I feel like Loach, of all people, would be quite familiar with the exhausting and pointless nature of arguing over whether there exists this secret silent socialist plurality just waiting to be tapped at the general election, or whether it's just an outcome of the vagaries of suitably vague polling - reflecting a transient sentiment that evaporates when it becomes clear that anybody who will put forth said nationalizations is also going to to prioritize trade union strikes over service users, or that anybody who puts forth higher taxes will also refuse to cut the foreign aid/EU contribution/houses for terror preachers fund that exists somewhere in the minds of the median voter

probably from the former side rather than the latter, because he's ken goddamn loach, but he can't possibly be unfamiliar with the endless, pointless debate

bitching that the plp is divergent from the membership has been a thing ever since there has been a plp, even back when the membership were delegates and not members in themselves. that's not new.

he's right that this can't be pinned on Corbyn, but his prescription is no fresher than it was in the 1970s. rather, the malaise amongst social democratic parties is so widespread in the developed world that it's suggestive of structural political factors, not personality politics

Meanwhile, the merits of conservatism continue to help everyone.

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Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Jose posted:

is there any particular reason farage is starting a fight against carswell?

Far age didn't get knighted and carswell made fun of him for it.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Jose posted:

lol i'm sure getting the only MP of the party expelled is a great idea

Nah see carswell was a Tory plant and it is only once he leaves that skip will become a true party for socialism on a national scale (seriously, I saw a dm commentator stating that ukips policies were a socialists wet dream (funding for the nhs, nationalisation of public services etc) for for the uk only (no international health service, Labour))

Nationalist socialism, hmmm...

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

and i must meme posted:

aren't ukip actually pretty far to the right economically? they describe themselves as libertarian, iirc

This was a northern guy who was convinced that ukip were the new left but only for the English.

I didn't have the heart to correct him even if I hadn't run out of comments by reminding people of how many times far age had failed to be elected.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Spangly A posted:

was there ever anything more substantial than known bullshit artist Kuessenberg saying she definitely knew a guy who knew a guy?

The fact she qualified it so hard on threat of legal action smelt like crap.

Palace sources~

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

The mother of a friend of my wife was recently judged fit to work at the age of 62 after a lifetime on sickness benefits for mental health issues and chronic epilepsy.

Last night my wife's friend found her mother dead on the floor, following an epileptic seizure most likely brought on by stress.

I'm sorry to hear that, it's a bit inane coming from a guy on the internet but I hope your wife's friend is ok (obviously as much as can be expected in this situation).

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Weather: windy

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Weather: sunshine and showers

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Picture a tweet of me holding an express saying weather:rain up on a sunny day with the caption fake news

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

floofyscorp posted:

Today on the BBC and the Spectator: should disabled people be 'allowed' to be paid less than minimum wage? This woman in Brighton thinks so, because her daughter doesn't understand the concept of money anyway:

https://twitter.com/Emmabarnett/status/837234398374346752

(That 'Improving Lives' government paper that wilfully misinterprets research to conclude that being unemployed is bad for your health because work literally just makes you healthy makes me really, really angry)

Woman from Brighton is a oval office, people with ld are still people

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Just because people may not have the cognitive ability to understand money doesnt mean they shouldn't be fairly paid.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

A parcel got signed for by my neighbour and they're shouting through the door that they aren't going to open up, so, confused.

Mail theft is a crime

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

I have no idea what the gently caress is happening with that house, but during the day things seem pretty normal and friendly and regular, then when the sun goes down everything just gets weird as described, so I think I'll put a pin in this until tomorrow.

Mail theft is a crime

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

hakimashou posted:

I sincerely hope that works for people.

It does. Treatment with a substitute and therapy is proven as an effective treatment. It's medical science.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

kingturnip posted:

I'm curious how much publicity the march got beforehand - I work for the NHS, am a Labour member and get emails about all kinds of boring poo poo I have no interest in and I had no idea the march was happening.

It was in my labour email

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

That's our Jeremy :negative:

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

As ever, he's making a good point but finding a way to gently caress up.

That said I'll still vote for him.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

TheHoodedClaw posted:

Where's the 36 grand p/a pension from? That's not the Leader of the Opposition increment in the wrong column is it?

He's a pensioner, mp pension probably.

Pochoclo posted:

Jesus Christ people, that's still by far the closest I've seen a politician come to a real, clean tax return. I mean I've seen politicians declare huge mansions with helipads on them for $1 value and nothing happen, in comparison this dude forgetting to declare £35k is a breath of fresh air.

If you're making the political point that people over a certain income should post your tax returns, and getting the chancellor to call it demonstration politics instead of posting his own, it's an own goal to then miss the equivalent of 150% of a newly qualified nurses salary off your own income. It leaves him open to ridicule and he'll have to publicly deny any wrongdoing. The right wing press get to laugh at him instead of engaging with the point.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Thatcher only regarded one of those two people as her greatest success tho

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Seaside Loafer posted:

Its going to be 'whoops me or the accounts hosed up and everything is legal' but they should have got it 100% perfect first time so as not to cause a nonsense.

Yeah, it's an own goal that the likes of the mail will jump in, and will probably weaken his sick owns in pmqs

E: in episode 22 of dragonball z as it aired on toonami, goku used the kaio-ken to beat nappa.

Namtab fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Mar 6, 2017

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Pochoclo posted:

I agree it was stupid to gently caress it up. I still think the mistake is being unnecessarily demonised. It wasn't "oops forgot to put in all my £10 million+ of real estate in prime London held through offshore companies in my return, teehee" like it would be with most tories that are criticising this

£37k is still a lot of money from my end of the scale, it's a big deal.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

Nice bathroom

What?

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

It's a legitimate place to put that information though, the issue was that the section wasn't broken down by the accountant.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

I'm not an accountant can you explain to me why it's legitimate to record part of your salary under the section headed 'uk pensions annuities and other rate benefits'?

To me, as a layperson, that seems extremely nuanced.

It's been a while but the general principle on a tax return is to record the information in the section you feel is most appropriate. Putting things in that section won't lower your tax burden so it just shows that corbyn/his accountant feels that the leadership money is an additional workplace benefit.

E:as opposed to primary source of income. The important thing to note is that this is all above board.

Namtab fucked around with this message at 10:01 on Mar 6, 2017

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

The BBC is full of shot and the sooner it goes away, the better

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Also I have an accountancy degree alongside my nursing one. I'm the only one of my colleagues to claim the tax relief on nmc and rcn membership that were allowed.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

All I'm saying is she probably never watched k-on

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Death to all who never watched k-on

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

I think there's evidence to suggest that anime child porn (lolicon) has been used by paedophiles to groom actual children, and that kind of material is illegal here in the UK which is good

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

I'm also reasonably confident that there's a lot more social stigma involved in reporting rape in Japan, which is probably part of the reason rape stats are lower

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Regarde Aduck posted:

I've been watching anime for about 15 years and I've managed to avoid weirdo porn poo poo and tentacle rape of any kind. You do have to go looking for that stuff.

Only 15 years?

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

OwlFancier posted:

Alternatively, relaunch corbyn-san as the most kawaii leader of the labour party desu nyaa~~!

He's moe as gently caress

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

OwlFancier posted:

Very, erm, ecchi?

I'm running out of weeaboo words.

Corbyn is NOT ecchi.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

OwlFancier posted:

He might be.

Well, Diane Abbott definitely agrees with you

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

What we need is the principles of the lib dems.



Once they find some

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

As I said, there's evidence that its used in grooming.

Defending it is not a hill any of us should choose to die on

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

I think a hd re-release of that got kickstarted or crowdfunded or something

E: it was the manga

Namtab fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Mar 6, 2017

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

quote:

Goofs
While the demon has the nurse in his possession he soon shoves both her hands into the wall of the hospital room they are in. This is practically impossible as the wall was lined with thick tile resting over an even thicker amount of drywall, meaning that her hands would not have penetrate the wall in the slightest.

Thanks imdb

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

jabby posted:

If anime teaches us anything it's that the penetration doesn't have to be realistic.

Lol

Mister Adequate posted:

My parents had a big poster of Urutsukidoji up on the living room door.

Epic


How's the evening not-anime politics?

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Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

forkboy84 posted:

I haven't looked but I imagine it's terrible.

The only thing I've seen is that danzcucks wife had a hot take on the mcaans and Labour don't like the idea of Fox buying sky

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