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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition? This poll is closed. |
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95 | 18.63% |
| Dennis Skinner |
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53 | 10.39% |
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20 | 3.92% |
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9 | 1.76% |
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105 | 20.59% |
| Tony Blair |
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28 | 5.49% |
| Pissflaps |
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193 | 37.84% |
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The Lords debates the Article 50 bill again today, with the remaining amendments grouped as such:
The most likely defeat for the Government would be on the rights of EU nationals, but Labour do appear to be pushing a lot on parliamentary scrutiny too. TinTower fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Mar 1, 2017 |
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EU nationals amendment passes 358-256. e: Euratom amendment up for debate now. Yesterday, MPs were warned that leaving Euratom would cause an energy crisis. TinTower fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Mar 1, 2017 |
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A semi at 69 Cock Lane has gone up for sale
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Mar 1, 2017 20:13
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Lady Wheatcroft was the only Tory peer to vote for the Single Market amendment. Earl Selborne appears likely to vote for the Euratom amendment.
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Mar 1, 2017 20:43
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Dead Goon posted:I wonder if Baron Lloyd-Webber managed to turn up? He did. He also released a statement parroting the government line about the Will of the People, which is a bit rich because literally nobody likes Love Never Dies but it's still playing in the West End.
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Mar 1, 2017 21:01
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Owen Jones makes a lot of decent points in this video about how Corbyn needs to basically either go hard or go home. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGhOTihjHlk
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Mar 1, 2017 22:57
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jabby posted:Most people here also wish Corbyn would 'go hard' in a John McDonnell mace-swinging fashion. The trouble is that if you want a left-wing Labour party he can't actually go home, not unless there's a rule change allowing a successor. The point that Jones makes is that Corbyn has a lot less time than most of his supporters thinks to actually be able to get a Left candidate onto the next leadership ballot. Clive Lewis is possibly the only candidate that I can see getting the nominations without a backroom deal between Corbyn and the PLP. But even then there's a shelf life on that option.
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Mar 1, 2017 23:08
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clear eyes full farts posted:SDLP - nationalists, socially conservative but take the labour whip in westminster so infer from that what you will, anti brexit To be fair, Labour and Catholicism go way back, mostly because the Catholic Church has always been one of the strongholds of Christian socialism. Likewise, the Tories and the CoE go even further back because, basically, establishment politics, and the Liberals and Non-conformists had similar relations; indeed, the Lib Dem constitution is still, in TYOOL 2017, very pro-nonconformist.
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Most cannabis in NI has been burned by the dealers so they can get a subsidy from the Government.
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floofyscorp posted:Today on the BBC and the Spectator: should disabled people be 'allowed' to be paid less than minimum wage? This woman in Brighton thinks so, because her daughter doesn't understand the concept of money anyway: Isn't this something that Philip Davies said about five years ago? Can't wait for the Tories of 2021 to make misandry illegal.
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Mar 2, 2017 11:58
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kustomkarkommando posted:greens 1, pbp 2 (McCann) and then Eastwood 3 I guess if he needs it Don't do exactly this, as you run the risk of exhausting your ballot. Keep preferencing as far down as you can stomach – even to the UUP if needs be – to ensure the DUP have a hard time reaching the quota.
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Mar 2, 2017 12:14
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There shouldn't be a metro mayor for Manchester or Birmingham. The government should respect the will of the people who rejected a mayor less than five years ago. 
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https://twitter.com/ryxnf/status/837076434761867269 brb cutting up my membership card
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/837444983342960641 Ginger Joe and Little Kev now have a Tory councillor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uja3W-ibifc
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In all seriousness, it's a very Jewish ward. And the Tories have, despite their history, been able to siphon a lot of the Jewish vote from Labour in the past eighteen months.
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The worst effect the anti-semitism furore in Labour had was that it allowed the people who only two years ago were basically saying "look at the Jew and how he's different, you shouldn't vote for him" have been able to recreate themselves as the Only Defenders of the Jewish Minority.
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Mar 3, 2017 00:53
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jabby posted:Explains why their share of the vote actually went down. I'm sure the split of the vote by a new independent candidate had nothing to do with the result. Their vote went down relative to the May 2016 locals. The Tories only got 17% of the vote in the ward in 2014, for example. They then shot up like a rocket in the 2016 locals.
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I only posted about it to make a joke about the Kersal Massive.  https://twitter.com/lukemartin_dl/status/837634618891304960
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Wheat Loaf posted:It would be nice if we could start having people with actual legal qualifications as Justice Secretaries again. Make her father Justice Secretary.
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Paxman posted:Not sure exactly what this means or how to read it but it seems to suggest support for the unionist parties is just a hair's breadth higher than support for the parties that want Irish unification? Unionists: 44.7% Nationalists: 40% Others: 13.5% Independents: 1.8%
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Is Paul Dacre okay?
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One piece of good news: the most seats the DUP can get is 30. Will almost certainly only win 29; if Eamonn McCann's lucky, 28. Sadly, though, a DUP FM is almost certain, unless the PBP or Greens change their designation to Nationalist to give SF the right to nominate as the largest party of the largest community. TinTower fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Mar 4, 2017 |
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Mar 4, 2017 00:41
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jabby posted:If they get less than 30 don't they lose their ability to veto progressive legislation? The actual figure is 29 because you can bet that Jim Allister thinks that even the DUP are a little bit too queer-loving, but yes.
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kustomkarkommando posted:Changing designations wouldn't do it, there's a deliberate fiddly out clause What if, as isn't improbable, the DUP and SF tie at 28-28 and PBP jump ship (which would possibly tie the community-wide totals too)?
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Mar 4, 2017 01:16
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kustomkarkommando posted:You have Jim Allister (TUV) and Claire Sugden (Ind) to add to the Unionist count so you'd need to muster two defectors. The Greens wouldn't be up for that - I doubt you'll get an Alliance jumper The SDLP are projected to finish on two more than the UUP, I believe. So only the PBP would need to go Nationalist.
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kustomkarkommando posted:If the SDLP finish on 12, SF will finish on 27 - they are competing for the last seat in the same constituency Ah, yeah, I realised that as soon as my maths didn't add up. Still, I think a PBP jump if SF win the East Londonderry seat would have 28-28 and 40-40.
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The DUP being down to 28 means that petitions of concern on same-sex marriage need MLAs for three parties to cosign.
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Spangly A posted:Let's not forget Labour carried gay marriage in Britain, the tories rebelled on it. Cameron knew full well that Labour weren't going to gently caress people over to score points like he would happily do. It would've been a tight majority, but if I remember correctly if every Labour MP who voted for same-sex marriage abstained, the bill would've passed at each stage. Definitely in the Commons. Still, I think we could have got it five years earlier if Ben Summerskill wasn't using his position as former Stonewall CEO to project his personal hatred of marrying on everyone else.
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Spangly A posted:I stand corrected. Does it pass if the Lib Dems abstain too? Only if one of the two parties abstained. Both were needed to pass it despite Cameron's charm offensive to his backbenchers. Although I doubt that the Lib Dems would've abstained on it because they were responsible for getting it on the Cabinet table in the first place. I'm personally not fussed about any party taking their due share of credit. It just annoys me when the Tories claim sole credit when the majority of their MPs who voted on the issue voted against.
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Baron Corbyn posted:who is this/what show? Woman's Hour. Goes out weekdaily on Radio 4.
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https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/838330022444294144 Majority in 2015: 24,000
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jabby posted:You know drat well the context of this sentence was her saying Labour doesn't take any votes for granted, and she doesn't like to imply that by calling anywhere a safe seat. You're being as disingenuous as the express if you're trying to imply it means anything other than that. I'm pretty sure that Corbyn imposing a three-line whip for Brexit despite 78% of his constituents voting Remain is taking their votes for granted, you know. e: oh my god, this is fractal dysfunctionality https://twitter.com/jenwilliamsmen/status/837593259291656193 TinTower fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Mar 6, 2017 |
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 from the Tory former leader of the local council, saying this:https://twitter.com/SL_Benton/status/837030324223754241 Just a day before this: 
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