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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition? This poll is closed.
Jeremy Corbyn	95	18.63%
Dennis Skinner	53	10.39%
Angus Robertson	20	3.92%
Tim Farron	9	1.76%
Paul Ukips	7	1.37%
Robot Lenin	105	20.59%
Tony Blair	28	5.49%
Pissflaps	193	37.84%
Total:	510 votes

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TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Oh dear me posted:

What mess?

I don't think 2020 was ever winnable without an electoral pact because the LibDems are still electoral poison, which hands the Tories a stack of western seats. But the Brexit referendum handed the Tories a whole lot more support. They're doing something the country likes, that dominates news cycles, and that will take at least 2 more years, and they are the obvious party for Brexiters to support because the opposition contains more Remainers. UKIP is now pointless, so Tories are no longer flanked on the right. They're in a fantastic position.

We're still the only party to have more seats now than after the 2015 election. :colbert:

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TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

FAO especially jabby, Prince John: further to the Alexander Blackman discussion the other day, someone pointed this out from the first appeal judgment:

quote:

This was, in our view, a very unfortunate circumstance. It was not possible two years after the killing of the insurgent to diagnose whether the appellant was in fact suffering from combat stress disorder, but the circumstances to which we have referred may have meant that any combat stress disorder was undetected.

So over three years the CMAC have flipped on a dime over whether Blackman could have been diagnosed with adjustment/combat stress disorder after the fact.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2017 15:11

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Gort posted:

I think you're kidding yourself if you think replacing the leader will win the next election for Labour. In order to do that you'd have to get the media on side, and in order to do that you have to sell out to the owners of the media, which means going Tory.

If you rely on the NHS, you should probably be supporting the people who support it (Corbyn and his team), not proposing replacing them with people who will continue to destroy it (the PLP and whatever goblin the Daily Mail convinces them to run as leader).

All that Corbyn standing down would achieve is moving Labour to the right and proving that the scummy tactics of Murdoch and the PLP are successful and should be emulated.

If there's anything that Farage and Trump have proved, you don't really need the media to support you; you need the media to notice you.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2017 17:06

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Some more Brexit polling:

https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/847096671976767489
https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/847096129590300677

# ¿ Mar 31, 2017 17:25

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Benjamin Arthur posted:

Polling data couldn't accurately predict Brexit or the outcome of the last general election. I doubt theres sufficient evidence that the PLP undermining Corbyn has had no effect on Corbyn or the Labour parties approval ratings unless you go looking with a hefty dose of confirmation bias.
Done your way vulnerable people would lose the only party willing to improve their lives in a tide of striver v skiver "business friendly" anti-immigrant neoliberal shite.

As much as I have to reiterate this, the polling was "within the margin of error" wrong, not "most people actually think Corbyn's doing a good job" wrong.

If the confidence interval of the polling was on the level of the Higgs boson, Corbyn would still be on a -24 rating at best.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2017 18:54

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

So HuffPo journalist Paul Waugh has a Twitter thread about how poo poo the ShadCab are at media:

https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/847897383350546433

"Oh sure, Paul, we'll waste three days of your time running around the Commons Library before going with a rival publication".

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TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Although the Socialist Worker Student Society (the SWP youth wing) often failed all four criteria. :v:

(The remnants of the SWP in Leeds are mostly seen on campus these days trying to sign people up for SUTR)

# ¿ Mar 31, 2017 23:08

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