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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition? This poll is closed. |
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| Jeremy Corbyn |
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95 | 18.63% |
| Dennis Skinner |
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53 | 10.39% |
| Angus Robertson |
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20 | 3.92% |
| Tim Farron |
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9 | 1.76% |
| Paul Ukips |
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7 | 1.37% |
| Robot Lenin |
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105 | 20.59% |
| Tony Blair |
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28 | 5.49% |
| Pissflaps |
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193 | 37.84% |
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Namtab posted:Picture a tweet of me holding an express saying weather:rain up on a sunny day with the caption fake news lol
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UnlimitedSpessmans posted:can't they just round us up in camps if they want us dead so bad. Unemployables Sent On Permanent Butlins Holiday Paid For By YOUR Taxes
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Mar 2, 2017 15:48
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hakimashou posted:What's wrong with red trousers?   https://yougov.co.uk/news/2013/07/31/its-official-red-trousers-fashion-faux-pas/
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Mar 2, 2017 16:25
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Bad news, educated friends. According to the Adam Smith Institute, universities are worryingly lacking ideological heterogeneity, as too many lecturers are left-wing. This means they agree on everything and to prevent dangerous groupthink universities need to introduce ideological hiring policies to ensure more right-wing views are heard on campuses. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2017/03/02/eight-ten-british-university-lecturers-left-wing-survey-finds/
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Mar 2, 2017 21:44
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jBrereton posted:True. But right wingers who end up in academia are not even positive examples of right wingers. I'd be interested to hear more if you'd care to elaborate.
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Mar 2, 2017 21:53
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Spangly A posted:the right wing are objectively wrong about everything they believe, of course we don't want them in loving universiites. They ruin the whole point of the endevour. Well maybe but where will students hear right-wing views expressed if they aren't taught on their courses???
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Mar 2, 2017 22:50
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J_RBG posted:Just FYI the big irony of the Adam Smith Institute's study is that it is nowhere near rigorous enough to pass muster in the average university. Also its proposed methods for dealing with it are just illegal. A professor I used to work with was an outspoken UKIPer (in a group where more than half the staff held a non-UK passport), and I've taken a certain grim enjoyment hearing from my contacts still working there that after initially crowing about the referendum result he's suddenly in a panic because about 70% of his funding currently comes from EU grants.
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Mar 3, 2017 00:16
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If you're thinking of visiting the SW it's with bearing in mind that everything good associated with Cornwall: pasties, sunshine, beaches, surfing, cream teas, quaint fishing towns, ice cream, National Trust properties and so on, can be found equally in Devon. In fact, Devon invented pasties, cream tea and sunshine. I suppose Cornwall has the lead in kitsch plaster dragons and Pendragon pewter figures, but you can get those in Plymouth these days too.
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Mar 3, 2017 20:55
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Stephen Hawking is wrong about AI imo.
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Mar 7, 2017 13:09
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Jeza posted:Stephen Hawking is cool but in my experience science people have atrocious political opinions. This one is fine and good, but the stereotype hasn't risen from nowhere. Fortunately, most scientists hate politics and everything to do with it. Usually you find out why when they offer their thoughts on social policy. It's actually bad that scientists don't want to engage in politics and think that their work is somehow apolitical. I suspect that senior scientists generally trying to avoid taking a stance that can be seen as political and being unwilling to comment publicly on policy even when it relates to their specialism is a part of what has led to experts being seen as untrustworthy and every person's opinion as good as any other. Science isn't any more insulated from politics and society in general than anything else, and it's a dangerous delusion that scientists allow themselves to believe it is. We have this huge pool of experts who dedicate their entire lives to studying topics that have huge impacts on our daily lives. Yet as soon as some idiot politician who knows nothing about anything but where the bodies are buried in Westminster opens their mouths, suddenly all these experts start staring at their feet and mumbling "well of course there are two sides to every story" and pretending that the real world and their pet area of study are comfortably separate domains that only overlap on their funding proposals. I don't say that Hawking should necessarily start spouting on the best way to address unemployment in rural Wales, but I do feel that it'd be good if more scientists were willing to follow the lead of Prof. Nutt and actively and publicly lobby for policy to follow science within their field rather than throw up their hands and claim to be apart from the whole sordid mess.
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Mar 7, 2017 16:54
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fridge corn posted:Why am I not surprised that there are so many earnest anime likers itt I only watch good British anime like Funnybones, Dangermouse, or Monkey Dust.
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Mar 7, 2017 22:07
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There's an entire forum for discussing Japanese cartoons, this thread is for talking about UK politics and getting trolled by Pissflaps. Is there any chance you could stop arguing the relative merits of your schoolgirl rape shows here and take it to ADTRW instead?
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Mar 8, 2017 09:50
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baka kaba posted:As well a lot of the criticism has been about them breaking a manifesto commitment (which feels like criticising someone's manners instead of what they're actually doing but whatever) about not raising taxes - which effectively changes the criticism from 'this disproportionately hits poorer people' to 'you can't raise any taxes', which is definitely an argument we don't want to be making. Also might also be why Labour weren't pressing that point too hard This was my feeling too. Sure, Labour can criticise the Tories for breaking a manifesto promise, but is it worth it when it means you're also attacking them for raising taxes to pay for social spending?
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Mar 9, 2017 19:52
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I'm dead thick and I'm allowed to vote and everything. If I wanted to I could go out and hire a tractor tomorrow and just drive it really slowly along the roads wearing wellies and a flatcap. I could drive to Carlisle if I wanted. Probably I'd wear trousers too because this is March in Scotland. But I wouldn't have to.
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Mar 9, 2017 20:07
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Gove is such a slimy poo poo.
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Mar 10, 2017 12:53
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I voted remain because I hate the EU and all its inhabitants and thought Britain could do a better job of bringing it down from the inside.
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Mar 11, 2017 13:08
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Pistol_Pete posted:The UK public is currently living in a fool's paradise where they have no concept of what a fundamental change leaving the EU's going to be and just how much it's going to hurt them. Couldn't hurt to look into your possibilities for leaving the country. Not saying anyone should leave, just that there's no harm in having an idea of where you'd go, what you'd need to do and how you'd arrange it.
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Mar 11, 2017 19:26
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Regarde Aduck posted:That sounds really scary to those of us unlikely to be able to leave. I don't see anywhere in Europe as particularly enticing and while I have a degree it's not STEM or in demand so the chances of getting a job or being head hunted is low-impossible. Am I going to die? If the best course of action is to literally flee if you can what the gently caress is going to happen to us that can't? You're giving me a panic attack. I'm not saying that that is what is going to happen, I'm just saying that if you are in a position to do so (and if Pistol_Pete is buying property than I assume he is, at least financially) then why would you not look into your options? The UK doesn't have to become a literal hellmouth for there to be better places to live abroad, and if you decide that things are becoming intolerable here then at least you already have an idea of your next move. I don't know how else you can prepare because I, like everyone else, has no idea what's going to happen here. I assume "be loving loaded" would be a good start, but failing that not being here when the fallout lands seems a safe bet. e: Also while it's not exactly a matter of just getting on a plane and starting your new life, I don't think moving abroad is as expensive or difficult as most people think. I'm probably going to leave the UK for a second time in the next couple of months, I can try and keep track of what it costs me to do so this time around and how long it takes to get set up. I reckon last time it cost me about £2k all-in, over maybe six weeks, but I didn't keep exact tabs and I had a contract signed and a job at the other end. big scary monsters fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Mar 11, 2017 |
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Mar 11, 2017 19:49
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Seaside Loafer posted:I've got my eye on La Costa in Ecuador, will have to learn bloody Spanish though and for some reason i'm really bad at learning foreign languages. It's easier when you're immersed in it.
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Mar 11, 2017 20:06
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Bobstar posted:This is true, but even more so if the locals don't speak perfect English (shakes fist at the Dutch). I found that after a few months of lessons my Dutch became just about good enough that they wouldn't immediately switch to English when I opened my mouth. From there you get better much faster! There's a definite level you need to achieve before they'll tolerate befouling their language by allowing you to speak it though.
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Mar 11, 2017 20:10
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Lightning Lord posted:Who in loving hell is Paul Cattermole and why do half of the posters in this thread have redtext about him? smh if you aren't cool with the 'mole
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Mar 11, 2017 20:43
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At least in Scotland it's rare that the weather forecast includes firestorms the size of Perthshire.
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Mar 12, 2017 12:33
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Breath Ray posted:Mental retardation seems clear enough. Why mess with a winning formula? It is a forums rule not to sign your posts.
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Mar 12, 2017 19:07
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TACD posted:I mean, why shouldn't they do this? The press is apparently willing to let poo poo like this and the £350m bus slide and to continue giving these people airtime, and the public is willing to let it slide and to continue voting for them. There's really no incentive for them to maintain any pretence of not being completely divorced from reality. That sounds rather odd, I wouldn't have thought you'd need to renew your lease until your notice period comes up. IIRC the landlord only has the right to do viewings in the last month before the end of your contract, and has to provide 24 hours notice - you can refuse permission when you receive that notice if it's not convenient. I've certainly asked landlords to reschedule viewings because it wasn't a good time for me. Of course in practice many landlords will try and pull whatever they like and it's up to you how hard you want to stick to your rights.
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Mar 12, 2017 22:01
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Small tip: ty for the advice but actually I have no intentions of quitting.
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Mar 12, 2017 23:26
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forkboy84 posted:Why doesn't the UN guarantee my right to a life in UKMT free from pointless arguments with Pissflaps over pedantry & boring minutia? You have the right to form your own UKMT if you can get enough people to recognise it, but keeping out Pissflaps is something you have to handle yourself.
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Mar 13, 2017 12:22
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Appealing to charters and declarations isn't really necessary when you can point to a much more fundamental rule of international relations: if you can get away with it then it is legal. This is why Nepal does not have the right to self-determination while Taiwan apparently does despite the PRC's protests. Kosovo probably just about does but we haven't quite decided yet. Scotland would have the right if the people of Scotland agreed on it in a referendum, Middlesbrough most likely not without a couple decades laying the groundwork first. Cornwall, we'll be finding out shortly.
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Mar 13, 2017 12:38
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These really are exciting times in UK politics. This must have been how people felt under Cromwell: bewildered and terrified.
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Mar 13, 2017 13:01
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Fangz posted:Yes, see Taiwan, which is legally not separate from China and is recognised by no major nation. The PRC holds enough sway to prevent Taiwan gaining widespread legal recognition, but I think it's pretty hard to argue that it is not de facto independent given that it is entirely self governing and just about every major player has officially unofficial diplomatic relations with it.
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Mar 13, 2017 13:13
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Taear posted:Nepal's a sovereign nation. You mean Tibet. Fangz posted:No, the legal principles, just like facts on the ground, *are* the actions of powerful interests. big scary monsters fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Mar 13, 2017 |
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Mar 13, 2017 14:16
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forkboy84 posted:There are definitely people who pirate music. Spotify is poo poo when I'm out on the go because I live in the Scottish Highlands & mobile signals may as well not exist up in large parts of it. Including my bedroom. There's still P2P services out there like Soulseek, and certainly in the many different strains of the metal underground there are loads of blogs with links to cool poo poo. Like there's a great anarcho-punk/crust/anarcho black metal one I follow, & another for DSBM (scenes that Spotify isn't particularly good for anyway). Lots of the poo poo is demos and stuff from unsigned bands that are freely available, but some of it is undoubtedly straight up Yeah the real use of the old piracy platforms these days is not so much that the music is free, but that it's available at all. Obscure bands, out-of-print records, demos and bootlegs, stuff that never made an official transition to digital or maybe even CD. Stuff like what.cd (RIP) and Wordpress accounts full of zip files are great for that.
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Mar 13, 2017 16:02
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Yorkshire Tea posted:They should ostensibly claim not to support it, but do literally nothing to prevent it and then blame the Tories for the breakup of the Union. That's what they did last time so probably what they'll try again.
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Mar 13, 2017 21:34
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Lord of the Llamas posted:If only, Labour made a huge mistake being seen as a part of the Westminster cabal. I dunno, there was The Vow that was immediately shot and buried following the No vote, and there was Gordon Brown's last minute essay writing and I can barely remember what else Labour was involved in in the last referendum. Of course I was living in Scotland so probably wasn't the main focus of their campaign.
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Mar 13, 2017 21:43
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Mar 13, 2017 22:03
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I'm not sure what the purpose of Lords is if they're just meant to step aside on legislation the government really wants. Are they only there to lodge symbolic protests and then rubber stamp the decisions of the lower house? Are they meant to just form advisory committees (solely on unimportant laws)? And I don't see that delaying Article 50 is pointless either. If a week is a long time in politics a year is a lifetime. There's plenty that could alter even in the next month or two both at home and with elections happening in Europe. Even if nothing changes it is at least extra time for EU citizens in the UK and Britons abroad to prepare themselves for the worst, get citizenship, whatever. Also extra time that we're all benefiting from that sweet EU legislation, trade, ECHR...
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Mar 14, 2017 01:16
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Sinteres posted:It's just a dumb holdover like the queen. So is our entire system of government though. I'd like to think if it were redesigned from scratch we could do better now.
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Mar 14, 2017 01:33
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Hello I live in Scotland but am against the UK leaving the EU, how much is that opinion worth on a scale of Smug London Elite to Xenophobic Non-Racist Northerner?
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Mar 14, 2017 14:07
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I have to say I've found the attitude both of Labour and this thread on opposing the government on Article 50 a little baffling. "It's right that Labour whip for this legislation, voting against it would be a pointless act of symbolism. We'll improve it with amendments." "Oh well clearly those amendements were never going to get through anyway. Yes that was definitely enough time to debate them. Let's see what Lords have to say. " "Well of course it was a fine gesture but it would be pointless for Lords to block the government further, they'd only lose in a year's time. And it would make them unpopular." When exactly does the time come to oppose this hugely damaging Tory policy? Why would May moderate her attitude or negotiate with the Houses if they will roll over the second she gives them a nasty look? Delaying Brexit for a year would not be a pointless symbolic act, it's pretty much the only bargaining chip the opposition parties have. It would be a hugely embarrassing defeat for May personally - there's no way she'd even be in power in a year if she failed to negotiate with Lords on that. She'd be a laughing stock in Europe and you'd practically be able to hear the knives being sharpened on the Tory back benches. Like you can say the government will win eventually, and that's certainly true if they face no meaningful opposition whatsoever. But I'd rather see the attempt made, because doing absolutely nothing is definitely not going to improve matters. If May has to make concessions to stick to her timetable, that's a good thing. If she has to pack Lords with her cronies just to pass legislation (assuming she even can), that's a sign of how inept she is and a damaging display of how far she's willing to go against accepted practice in British democracy to push through the legislation she's staked her premiership on. Labour should be taking every opportunity to stick the boot in and hassle her on this, because it makes her look weak, and neither her party nor the electorate will put up with a weak prime minister. big scary monsters fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Mar 14, 2017 |
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Mar 14, 2017 14:37
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learnincurve posted:I'm not saying a recession won't happen. In my opinion it will happen, but the problem is that the wealth and resources devision in this county mean that London will be hosed far far harder than the midlands and the north because we are getting pretty screwed right now anyway. Perhaps if things had been fairer in the first place then this would never have happened. Yes, no doubt London will be allowed to suffer the brunt of any economic problems, it would be strange indeed for the south east to suddenly start getting special treatment to the detriment of the rest of the country.
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jBrereton posted:Right... and the Swiss have a really big airport which explains them getting more trade than the French or what? People say that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush but actually that ratio is wrong because you can't sell birds in the bush. Unless they're grouse.
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