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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition? This poll is closed.
Jeremy Corbyn	95	18.63%
Dennis Skinner	53	10.39%
Angus Robertson	20	3.92%
Tim Farron	9	1.76%
Paul Ukips	7	1.37%
Robot Lenin	105	20.59%
Tony Blair	28	5.49%
Pissflaps	193	37.84%
Total:	510 votes

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Miftan: Mar 31, 2012; Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Guavanaut posted:

Was Hitler a secret lizard, or are all lizards secret hitlers? Did Zionists turn Hitler into lizards using tissue samples from a South American lab?

I think you'll find it was the mufti that turned Hitler into a lizard.

# ¿ Mar 30, 2017 14:41

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# ¿ May 16, 2024 01:32

Miftan: Mar 31, 2012; Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

TinTower posted:

We're still the only party to have more seats now than after the 2015 election.

Gotta be honest, that would be some pretty impressive spin if everybody suddenly forgot 2010-2015.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2017 14:33

Miftan: Mar 31, 2012; Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Benjamin Arthur posted:

It's not safe to assume people who support Corbyn will vote labour but we're supposed to trust you about being "lifelong labour supporter" when you support neither the leader or the parties original ideals? You don't have any more reason to doubt that I'll vote Labour than the reverse.
The next election is ages away and Brexit is going to shake things up, regardless even if nothing changes significantly in that entire time theres still far better ways we can spend it than reading impotent rage about how Labour is hosed because Corbyn is bad and theres nothing anyone can do about it.

Please, for your own sanity, stop responding to the flaps. They are full of piss, nothing good will come of it, and honestly he is a master class troll.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2017 20:00

Miftan: Mar 31, 2012; Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

forkboy84 posted:

He has a few of the annoying biases of his generation but otherwise, sure, nor do I. But then you & I aren't exactly average members of the public.

But yes, you're getting there. Parliamentary democracy is trash, throw it away, build something better outside it because the change we want will not happen through it. Bernstein was wrong, past 100 years prove that, lets move on.

If you really believe that, and given your past posts I think you might, you have to do this poo poo yourself. Nobody is gonna do it for us. I don't know if you have time/money or if you're already actively participating, but it's important that we do. Nobody is going to help people if we don't, especially not politicians. I hope that regardless of Westminster bullshit you can help those around you, maybe spread the word while you're at it.

It's important not to get discouraged by politics, despite it being a big ball of poo poo.

e: OwlFancier and Chegg: Maybe just that we need to stop waiting for this 'help your fellow man' stuff to start with rich politicians and do it ourselves.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2017 21:22

Miftan: Mar 31, 2012; Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

OwlFancier posted:

But that hardly seems in conflict with pursuing parliamentary routes as well? And would, in fact, seem highly synergistic with parliamentary success?

The problem is that parliamentary success doesn't usually happen for the working class if the movements aren't already there. There is currently no movement, but people trying to force the parliamentary process to happen anyway.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2017 21:34

Miftan: Mar 31, 2012; Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Yes, but if all it does is seize the Labour leadership than it has failed as a movement. It needs to be out there providing aid to working class people and making their lives better. Also, if you do that, they might vote for you and you can change the laws to better reflect a socialist society. The making lives better is the point, not the getting elected.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2017 21:41

Miftan: Mar 31, 2012; Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

OwlFancier posted:

Isn't Momentum trying for that? I would also like it to be a Labour position, frankly.

Me too. I am not a Momentum member, so I couldn't tell you what they're trying to do other than some leadership squabbles that I see in headlines occasionally. I'm doing my own thing, and I was suggesting that forkboy do the same if he isn't already because it helps you remember what's important and not to give up.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2017 21:45

Miftan: Mar 31, 2012; Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Namtab posted:

I've decided that the title for the new thread will be UKMT April 2017 - Circular Corbyn Conversations

Circular Corbyn Conversations Perpetually

# ¿ Mar 31, 2017 22:22

Miftan: Mar 31, 2012; Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Namtab posted:

Ceaselessly

You're ignoring my rad CCCP joke though.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2017 22:31

Miftan: Mar 31, 2012; Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

OwlFancier posted:

I appreciated your CCCP joke.

Thank you that means a lot.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2017 22:33

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# ¿ May 16, 2024 01:32

Miftan: Mar 31, 2012; Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Namtab posted:

You seem to have an r where there should be a b

ignobing isn't a word?

# ¿ Mar 31, 2017 22:40

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