Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition? This poll is closed. |
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Jeremy Corbyn | 95 | 18.63% | |
Dennis Skinner | 53 | 10.39% | |
Angus Robertson | 20 | 3.92% | |
Tim Farron | 9 | 1.76% | |
Paul Ukips | 7 | 1.37% | |
Robot Lenin | 105 | 20.59% | |
Tony Blair | 28 | 5.49% | |
Pissflaps | 193 | 37.84% | |
Total: | 510 votes |
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jabby posted:The PLP decided to respond to Brexit, possibly the biggest political event of a generation, by launching mass resignations timed to cause maximum damage to the party. A lot of people on the left aren't going to forgive that. Maybe some of the PLP can regain grudging acceptance if they threw themselves behind left-wing policies, but there's no sign of that happening. They have actively sabotaged the purpose of the Labour party - to promote socialist policies - and that shouldn't be forgotten. Wasn't that their response to corbyns intransigence?
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2017 12:43 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 17:35 |
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dispatch_async posted:The hatred that New Labour grandees have for "the left" isn't something that people made up. They are extremely open about it and it long predates Corbyn 's leadership. Are they wrong? Brown and Milliband both lost, Blair won over and over.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2017 12:46 |
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Comrade Cheggorsky posted:I think there is some merit in the Labour Party embracing some sort of patriotism, people love that poo poo Yup. The notion that any party could attemp both to be unpatriotic and also to govern the country is absurd. It's not just wrong, it's absurd, it's facrcical. There is some kind of sick twisted belief that many fools cling on to that all patriotism or nationalism or pride in your country is bad, that a country shouldn't look out for itself first and foremost. It's broken-brained insanity, absolutely disconnected from how real people think and feel.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2017 13:04 |
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If US dollars suddenly lost a ton of value money wouldn't really be money anymore anywhere in the world, so it's as safe as you're gonna get. Gold is just a commodity, but the USD is backed by aircraft carriers, stealth bombers, fleets of nuclear ICBM armed subs, the CIA, the NSA, and the whole institution of global capitalism. If you believe that this time the sky really is falling, for sure, you can make a wager on it by taking out as much debt as you possibly can, then converting it all to commodies like gold or other easy to sell valuables, or even just USD if you think it's just the pound that's going. If the pound loses half its value, you can pay the loan back with half of what you borrowed and keep the other half. If the pound doesn't collapse you're bankrupt.
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2017 13:25 |
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radmonger posted:If it wasn't for Brexit, the City would be caning it right now, being based an island with most of those things, and no Trump or Putin. The real tragedy of trump (one of the real tragedies) is that we in the states would have been even more the rock of the world if it had gone the other way. At least the fact that poo poo's hosed up everywhere mitigates it for us a bit. Not quite enough of us learned from the brexit mistake, but at least our democratic party learned from the corbyn mistake.
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2017 07:19 |
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Pissflaps posted:Pret A Manger have a plan to solve their looming problem of Brexit disrupting their recruitment by 'hiring' children to work 30 hours a week making their lovely sandwiches. "Leftist brexit" is still hilariously dumb. Corbyn three line whipped for this.
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2017 08:28 |
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Give it time, brexit hasn't even barely begun yet. One day you'll be happy for a sandwich.
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2017 12:13 |
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Were the people out protesting corbyns caving / three line whip? E: Douglas C-133 Cargomaster was a United States cargo aircraft built between 1956 and 1961 hakimashou fucked around with this message at 12:23 on Mar 26, 2017 |
# ¿ Mar 26, 2017 12:13 |
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Regarde Aduck posted:I sure do hope that he didn't then take the country into two pointless lovely wars that militarised our country people in a way they had never been before. It'd be a real shame if that started an almost American cult of the warrior that would send even more people rightward politically. May it not also be that the cause of civilisation itself will be defended by the skill and devotion of a few thousand airmen? There never has been, I suppose, in all the world, in all the history of war, such an opportunity for youth. The Knights of the Round Table, the Crusaders, all fall back into the past - not only distant but prosaic; these young men, going forth every morn to guard their native land and all that we stand for, holding in their hands these instruments of colossal and shattering power, of whom it may be said that Every morn brought forth a noble chance And every chance brought forth a noble knight, deserve our gratitude, as do all the brave men who, in so many ways and on so many occasions, are ready, and continue ready to give life and all for their native land. -Tony Blair, "Cult of the Warrior"
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2017 13:20 |
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TomViolence posted:Well, in my case since winning his second leadership election. It's almost like Corbyn should have... stepped down after the brexit referendum.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2017 12:20 |
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Don't Lol me posted:Behold the power of the press. I don't buy the principled bit. The honorable thing after brexit won would have been to step down. Letting David Cameron, a man who hosed a dead pig's head, steal a march on him in the 'principles' department was a sure sign of what was to come, and is why you see the polls saying what they say. E: 140 is the maximum number of exclamation points you can put in one twitter. hakimashou fucked around with this message at 12:31 on Mar 28, 2017 |
# ¿ Mar 28, 2017 12:26 |
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Seaside Loafer posted:I honestly cant wrap my head around why the loving numptys in this country want to be ruled by openly evil posh arseholes. Its almost like some form of BDSM It's specifically because the alternative is Jeremy Corbyn and what he represents. If he'd done the honorable thing and resigned after the brexit referendum things could be different. Since the delusions about Corbyn somehow becoming prime minister have faded significantly, a new futile hope seems to have emerged. That if somehow Corbyn and his cadres can make the whole Labour Party stand for what he stands for, then somehow over time it will get a turn in power, and voila, far left government. This is absurd. All this will do is destroy the Labour Party, and make the Liberal Democrats or some other new center-left party become the major opponent of the tories.
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2017 12:16 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 17:35 |
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winegums posted:So tories try to brexit. As it proceeds the dream falls apart. Most people realise their vision of brexit won't be realised and may/ the tories are seen to fail. Business, the historical ally of the tories gets uneasy that the country is about to fall apart. Electable sane Labour? Maybe. Howl at the moon stick it to the man Corbyn Labour? Eh....
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# ¿ Mar 30, 2017 12:04 |