Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition? This poll is closed. |
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Jeremy Corbyn | 95 | 18.63% | |
Dennis Skinner | 53 | 10.39% | |
Angus Robertson | 20 | 3.92% | |
Tim Farron | 9 | 1.76% | |
Paul Ukips | 7 | 1.37% | |
Robot Lenin | 105 | 20.59% | |
Tony Blair | 28 | 5.49% | |
Pissflaps | 193 | 37.84% | |
Total: | 510 votes |
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Plenty of rumour that carswell is looking at re-defecting (double defecting? un-defecting? refecting?) back to the tories at the moment, but that would serve fartrage better than him, surely?
DesperateDan fucked around with this message at 10:18 on Mar 1, 2017 |
# ¿ Mar 1, 2017 10:15 |
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 10:17 |
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All this mention of culturally significant animation and none of my comrades has mentioned teesside tintin? For fuckin shame...
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# ¿ Mar 8, 2017 08:21 |
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It's the job of the press to influence public opinion in ways preferable to the capital interests owning/allied to the press assets. That's why continuing to claim corbyn is "bad at the media" is pointless- he could be replaced by a perfect mystery dreamteam of socialists who also do good press releases, unless the policies are favourable to those who own the press they will simply do what they always do. Socialism is not acceptable to the press. Centralism gets you a liberal eating a bacon sandwich, forever. What was interesting was walking in the premier this morning and seeing every headline having a crack at the government. It's been a long honeymoon period for may but the lines are being drawn up within the conservative party and this mornings press release was a pretty stern shot over the bows- this isn't just about the budget. Doomed e.t.c but it's at least something interesting today
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2017 13:21 |
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53% to exit and destroy the festering shithole that is great britaine. Polls to show neck and neck, but the catastrophuckery that is brexit will be a good few years further up poo poo creek by then, and the writing on the wall will be far more obvious. Hell, the tories are already starting to go a bit lord of the flies. Of course, given that it seems I could get grandfathered citizenship and potentially retain/regain my EU rights so I'm a bit biased- but do a runner scotland folks, it's for your own drat good and you know it.
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2017 22:26 |
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Pissflaps posted:'Brexit shows why leaving a political and fiscal union with your most important trading partner is a bad idea....so this is why Scotland should leave the UK'. The nation of scotland voted strongly against leaving the EU, and then they watched as england and wales held the gun to their temple and squeezed the trigger. Less than two years beforehand, they were (falsely) told that remaining in the UK was the only way to stay in the EU. Why shouldn't they want to go their own way, when their "most important trading partner" dragged them out of a union they didn't want to leave, is headed for WTO rules, a deep recession, and a loving from the EU that will make a brazzers flick look like an episode of miss marple. Brexit is going to be really poo poo. Why the hell should scotland remain for it? I mean, I would imagine, given your supposed preference for remaining in the EU, that you would be glad at least some of the residents of this blighted isle are actually making a decent, viable shot at getting back in. Maybe you could surprise the thread by taking an active role in politics- you would be a shoe-in for tory councillor in a year or two, max! They will guide you through the process, make sure you know the new dogwhistle terms for out of date phrases like "urban ferals"- a few years of mindlessly vomiting out the kind of shite you talk on here, and you will be an MP in no time! You could glare at corbyn in person and make booing noises and everything!
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2017 23:30 |
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jBrereton posted:What was false about it? It was more of a case of one side claiming "well you are technically out, but given you already abide by all the rules/regulations and it would be financially beneficial to the EU there's nothing really stopping you getting fast tracked" VS "only way to stay. they won't let you back. never ever. spain won't let you. because catalonia. Reasons. so there. vote remain in the uk! or NO EU for you!". Then, well, you know. Brexit, and now the best chance for scotland to be in the EU is to leave the rest of the woebegotten and beshitted UK. jBrereton posted:OK but that doesn't negate them not being in the EU after independence either in 2014 or 2019. It allows them take the popular democratic decision of their nation to rejoin the EU after a 2019 split. It's not inconceivable that scotland will be applying to rejoin before the kingdom of england, wales and norniron (or whatever it gets called) fully leave. Hell, I can see brussels using negotiations with scotland as leverage against the remnants of the UK- Verhofstadt in particular seems pretty sympathetic to scotland wanting to remain, and its another card they can use in an already stacked deck. The only real issue with things seems to be adoption of the euro, but I don't think that will be so much of a problem *insert farage plane crash poond crash graph here* for too long.
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2017 00:23 |
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Pissflaps posted:Wading through this bilge to address the points you clumsily made: I'm sorry, was I a bit too "urban" for you to comprehend? And it was the questions I asked that I wanted addressed (that's kind of the point of asking them), but why would you break the habit of a posting lifetime by not cherrypicking? Pissflaps posted:voting No was the only option of the first referendum that would keep Scotland in the eu, it wasn't 'false', Scotland was told "the only way to stay in the EU is to vote in". And then they voted in, in a close vote. And now, despite voting strongly against leaving the EU, they are being dragged out. That removes scotland from the EU. Which they voted against. Which they were told was the opposite of what would happen with the first referendum. Hmmn. So scotland voted for the option you said would keep scotland in the eu. And yet after voting for it... They won't be staying in the EU. But the claim wasn't false. Uh huh. Pissflaps posted:and I think Scottish independence is a bad idea for the same reasons why Brexit is a bad idea. Supporting the former while opposing the latter is inconsistent. I asked a question, but not on your opinions on if you think its a good idea or a bad idea. The question was, compacted slightly- "Brexit is going to be really poo poo. Why the hell should scotland remain for it when they didn't vote for it.". And I genuinely mean it flaps, if you spent a third of the time you spend bashing out "corbyn bad" on here out doorknocking and leafleting instead, you would make a great tory councillor, a real asset to the team!
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2017 00:59 |
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jBrereton posted:They were right to say Scotland was out in 2014 if it left. They will be right again when Scotland is already out in 2019. But that wasn't the claim, the claim was, "remaining in the UK is the only way to stay in the EU". Turns out the only way for scotland to be in the EU is to leave the UK. jBrereton posted:Yes it is, and Verhofstadt's opinion on this is a big part of the reason it is inconceivable. Would you care to explain why his opinion is so easily disregarded rather than simply stating it as thus? I mean if the guy is an irrelevant fuckwad, my bad, but please explain- as lead brexit negotiator for the EU, I thought he might have some insight on poo poo inside the EU that your average SA poster might not. I mean then you also have the head of the European commission in the UK saying “There are a number of official candidate countries – Montenegro, Serbia, Bosnia, Herzegovina, [but] they are still quite some way away from meeting the criteria for membership. And obviously were Scotland to become independent, they would join that list. Now, it might be easier for an independent Scotland to meet those criteria. The fact that all your legislation has to be in alignment with existing European rules would presumably not be too difficult for Scotland, compared with, say, Montenegro. And that might enable them to move faster than others.” Which would point to an article 48 rather than article 49 succession- which makes sense as they already are demonstrably compliant and conversant with european law. Even the strongest objections I can find from spain seem to amount to "well it can't be an automatic thing, they would have to be out of the UK first" which just seems to be the drat rules anyway- no mention of any kind of veto or even a block on negotiation from the spanish government.
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2017 01:38 |
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Pochoclo posted:Lol the tories will own absolutely nothing. Best to make plans now- my brother couldn't decide between Spain and Australia so he's doing both, and my sister has been talking with HSBC about her job going out to Paris since this shitshow got on the road. And they were born here. They just want off this racist feckin island!
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2017 08:52 |
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Encryption ban is gonna be fun. Don't use maths citizens! You may inadvertently help isis when loving around with long division!Private Speech posted:Is this really true? Aren't comets/meteoroids/whatever actually fairly close? It's one of those QI style "facts" that isn't really quite there at all. On a really clear night in a dark area when you look around you will be able to see a few thousand stars with your naked eyes. Out of those thousands, perhaps one or two might well be dead. Betelgeuse, the bright red star on orion's shoulder is about due to blow any time (within the next hundred thousand years maybe) and its about 6 or 700 light years away. Others are further away and even dodgier. It's all playing the odds, but any stars you see naked eye are within a few thousand light years, so almost all of them are probably still there, because they aren't that far away relatively, and that doesn't give a long timespan for them to have died compared with life expectancy. If you start loving around with binoculars or a small telescope, suddenly you see a fuckton more, and you knock up your odds a lot. Any comets or meteors you can look at are going to be within our own system with a light distance measured in a few hours max. That poo poo's almost definitely still there. Now if you are lucky enough to be super dark on a really good night, you can see other nearby galaxies with your naked (sexy) eyes as bright splotches. When you look at one of those, given that the brightest stars in them shine the shortest, and the distances involved, you can be certain to be looking at some dead stars- andromeda is about 2 million light years ago/away and its populated with billions of massive, shortlived stars.
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2017 16:49 |
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Pissflaps posted:Another similarity with Corbynites. Corbyn whines, obsession for men- eau de shitpost
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2017 08:28 |
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Pissflaps posted:Ah so we're at the point where people need to stop 'obsessively whining' about the guy destroying the Labour Party. Very Brexit. Well yes there are those in life who think simply whining and moaning gets them closer to their goals. And when that doesn't work, they double down and whinge some more, and piously blame others for inaction while they sit, so hypocritically listless and dull. Here's a list of their valuable achievements for humanity:
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2017 09:52 |
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Pissflaps posted:A few days ago I organised a successful boycott of the sandwich chain Pret A Manger that was followed by a climbdown by their management on the issue of paying young workers with sandwiches. Who would put this man, this joke of a man, a man who couldn't outwit a used tea bag, in a position of authority where he could wipe out an pret a manger? Who? Only a yoghurt. This man is guilty of whiny shitposts. He's also guilty of being Pissflaps. That is his crime. It is also his punishment. Defence rests.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2017 10:08 |
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Like the security guard on the front gate who considers himself head of the corporation...
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2017 11:05 |
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Literally hundreds of posts consisting of little other than corbyn bad or an opinion poll may make you feel better but it casts you in a very poor light when you do nothing to change the situation you complain about and opt for endlessly whinging and expecting others to do the work for you. It's not even accursed slacktivism. It's akin to a stroppy child continually complaining when their room is a mess rather than tidy up a single toy or even discuss the process of tidying. But for years on end, and hundreds, if not a thousand+ posts now. TinTower posted:Obviously stress makes you do crazy things, like committing war crimes. Quiet gardener. Can't upset the tabloids.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2017 12:01 |
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Breath Ray posted:Seems he has a mental illness and claimed diminished responsibility? Certainly didn't diminish his capability to try an organise a cover up of the murder he comitted with malice aforethought. On camera. Maybe it's just the cynic in me, but I think it's more as a result of a bunch of "aaar boys" rabble rousing by tabloids than by any legal debate that he goes free. Weirdly enough I have a strange (and very limited) sympathy for him because I kind of understand the motive. The guy he murdered was probably dead soon anyway. I can imagine if the situation were reversed he might have seen it as mercy, and certainly if I was bleeding out from being shot by an apache I would want it ended quick. It didn't change the fact he aknowledged it was illegal, did it anyway and then tried to cover it up. Knew it was illegal. Did it anyway. Covered it up. Had he gotten away with it the army would have probably given him a medal instead, because that's just how they roll.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2017 12:21 |
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Guavanaut posted:Is it even an issue in the UK outside of a handful of religious fundamentalists and people who took Valerie Solanas way too seriously? Abortion is a tabloid hot button issue, and the interfering religious turdswogglers may be few in number but they are well organised and very, very well funded. I don't think most people seem to give two fucks though. I'm vaguely against sex selective abortions but it quickly gets complex and it's not my body so it's not my choice anyway.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2017 20:34 |
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Breath Ray posted:I was hoping someone could clarify things with a computer game analogy Alien: Isolation. Moments of binding, seething horror and fear interspersed lot of hiding away while watching humanity gently caress itself over, over and over again with greed and betrayal. That or system shock 2 if you don't mind a bit more old school trying not to piss yourself in terror
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2017 13:32 |
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Zephro posted:If I refuse to pay on the grounds that I was told by the stationmaster that I was fine to park there, will I get anywhere? Stationmaster (on being asked of alleged incident): "Nope. No idea what they are on about." AND/OR Car Park Owners: "don't care, pay up". It's an invoice for an alleged breach of contract, not a fine. You can either pay them in full, offer them a reduced figure, dispute the evidence, or, in my experience, (i am not a legal type person) just ignore the fuckers because they aren't going to spend out going to court for anything less than what they would spend chasing you up. They make their money on people who just pay up straight away, and lose interest quickly otherwise.
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2017 15:28 |
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Zephro posted:This isn't that likely. He is generally friendly, and we all know him. At least one other person has had this happen and he was annoyed enough about it to complain to the parking company, though I don't know how it was resolved in the end (ie whether he had to pay or not). Lack of parking is a chronic problem at this station and people are parked out of bays 4 days out of 5, every week. Ah, I misread- all the station car parks near me are the same tossers running all the supermarket ones near me- where they seem to consist of a few signs and anpr cars/cameras, a company post office box and a place to mail out vaguely threatening sounding notices of doom from. Have a quiet chat with the stationkeeper and see what he reckons, maybe have a look at the signs that are up in the car park and see who the contact details are for and what the wording is like? I would avoid any kind of official communication till you know the scores.
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2017 18:09 |
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 10:17 |
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UKMT: Express elevator to Hull... GOING DOWN!
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# ¿ Mar 30, 2017 08:22 |