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Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

What is this day 50 something? Was obama's first x amount of days that exciting? I vaguely remember him closing git mo and then finding out it's kinda more complex than that and not really anything else.

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Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

facialimpediment posted:

Second Russia shoe dropped tonight. First was about Trump associates, this one is about (now) Attorney General Sessions.

https://twitter.com/gregpmiller/status/837121087435591680

I know absolute 0 things will come of it, but are the confirmation hearings under oath?

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

At this point whether he's a Russian spy is debatable, direct or indirect collusion really isn't. I mean what's next, Betsy Devo's spent a winter in Russia studying Russian Schools or something?

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Office Pig posted:

Was there really any doubt that nearly every congressional republican has made themselves complicit?

That would be the most hosed up thing in American history in at least the last fifty years or so right? If one entire political party sold america up the river just to get 4-8 years of control.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

I think the better question is why does it matter if any sitting congressman is seen with Russians? Did the world go insane? The problem isn't "congress is appearing to be influenced by Russia." The Problem is "The Russians influenced the executive election some how, a bunch of people in the executive that where installed by Trump have Overt ties to the Russian Government and a few have suspected ties, and some may even be innocent of having any ties, Trump himself was surrounded by people with ties to Russia during his election, and Trump has been talking about lifting sanctions and detente with Russia. The question is, is the executive branch compromised by Russia and if so how bad is it."

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010


What?it'd be more surprising if he did.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Burt Sexual posted:

Why wouldn't they just pony up their GDP share of NATO dues vs this. Get on Donnies good side and maintain protection.

Because I don't think they trust that don man and the executive branch aren't Russian puppets/patsys?

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

MassivelyBuckNegro posted:

i would say that intelligence agencies leaking poo poo directly to the press is bad. but, if congress wont act on it in the normal fashion(i assume that someone provides a report to the house/senate commitees and they decide what to do), it seems necessary.

so....how are our intel agencies supposed to handle this sort of alleged wrongdoing? what is the process?

Depends, you really want the three letter agencies to start disapearing members of the executive? That's how you get coups. I mean there's nothing that intel agencies can do at this point besides continually leak worse and worse poo poo so that public outcry finally forces the congress to do the needful and take trump out behind the gym. The Judiciary has to bring charges up and good loving luck with Sessions as the Attorney General or the Congress has to do it and good luck with republicans in power and Trump still having a high approval rating among their constituents.

Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Mar 6, 2017

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

facialimpediment posted:

I stand corrected.

https://twitter.com/vplus/status/838881974324445184

gently caress Kelly in his other eye too.

Yuugist and most luxurious evidence you've ever seen.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

MassivelyBuckNegro posted:

no, i think you misunderstand. should trump/et al actually be russian agents and should the ic continue to leak to the press(vice whatever the normal channel is), then eventually congress will be forced to act*. following that, it should be made clear(typically, done by firing, restructuring, and law making) that american intelligence agencies should not be involved in domestic politics.

*in theory. also, assuming that he's not working with the best interests of america in mind.

So fire the only people who had any power to do poo poo about Trump and did it? I mean lofty ideals and all good on you but practically speaking it's not like they threw themselves after Trump before he became a liability to the standing and national security of the USA.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010


This man broke the greatest archaeological find in the last fifty years, The Pyramids where used to store grains. Who knows, maybe he found evidence of travelers who came over on slave ships who where not slaves?

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Does anyone at this point think WikiLeaks is genuine and not a politically useful tool at this point?

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010


What kind of mental gymnastics is this?

Is this, "It's not a matter of proving it, it's convincing the people he did it?"

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Vengarr posted:

And now, so am I

Just lol at the loving state of the Republican Party

They found a successful demographic and are running with it:

The Scared , The Stupid, The Ultra Wealthy, and The Scared Stupid Ultra Wealthy.

The weird part is I have some friends that vote that way and I look at them and think. You aren't wealthy. So you're either more scared or more stupid then I thought.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

So what would be the best response to the Senators letter, "We obtained a warrant to tap phones in trump tower due to an investigation involving [Russia, Hookers, Gangsters, Fraud, what ever] and found lots of incriminating evidence of [x, y, or z]" or "No, there where no taps."

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Office Pig posted:

I'm going to echo what people in less savory subforums have said and say this is a result of Fox-fueled DEEP STATE paranoia.

Is Deep State code for lizard people?

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010


Well, that's hella dystopian.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Gobbeldygook posted:

In a hot tub that you leave full and manage the pH and stuff in yes, but a "Jacuzzi bathtub", which I think means one of those bath tubs with jets in it that you fill up from the tap every time you want to use it, it's inexplicable.

Hey something I actually know something about. Muriatic Acid cleans tile and porcelin very well. Takes care of urine, poop, and blood stains like a charm. So maybe he needed some urine or poop cleaned out of the tub?

Source: The summer I spent as a janitor.

edit: I just learned that Jacuzzi is a brand name

Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Mar 12, 2017

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

I am now certain that the Republican party has no clue how insurance works.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Sean Spicer and Republicans doesn't mention is is that the people applying for hardship or will just take the penalty is a result of the cost of it, not the fact they don't want it.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

I can't imagine why Rachel Maddow would put out a wet fart, a couple of seconds of googling says MSNBC and her show specifically are doing fantastic ratings, so it's not like they're hurting for ratings at all. Is this sort of an attempt at death by a thousand paper cuts sort of deal? Where regardless of the inanity of it such as "Trump loves burnt steak with ketchup." "These tax returns don't have anything extremely shady, just kinda scummy." they'll post it in an attempt to turn Trump insane?

Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Mar 15, 2017

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

THE FREE MARKET WILL MAKE US ALL RICH gently caress SOCIALISM.

*free market determined that it would rather do research into cleaner methods of energy, free market determined that china has cheaper coal, free market determines that coal mines in bumfuck aren't near profitable*

NO NO NO I MEANT GIVING MONEY TO POORS AND BROWNS! PLEASE SAVE MY JOB GOP!

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Casimir Radon posted:

*Free market determines that uneducated rural whites aren't worth keeping alive except as chattel slaves.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Casimir Radon posted:

Zuckerberg has no charisma

Didn't stop the Democrats from nominating Gore, Kerry, or Hillary so...

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010


The upside is a lot of idiots will die or get really sick of MMR or something.

The downside is a lot of idiots Kids are gonna get it and die, and a lot of kids who couldn't get their shots in time are gonna die. So on the bright side a bunch of idiots might learn shots are necessary and a lot of parents might get so pissed off they'll actually do something about it.

I mean poo poo we're not so far removed from the generation that parents got so angry that certain elements of society had salty language and sexy videos they forced the MPAA and RIAA to label everything.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

I know there's a moratorium on gun chat and punching hitlerites, but can there be also a moratorium on Bernie vs Hillary chat? At this point it's played out to "Bernie was more Charismatic/Bernie was Unelectable/Hillary is a black hole of charisma that hosed the DNC and all DNC Nobles should be hung" and nobody is changing their mind or having a new thought about it.

edit edit: Someone already talked about McDonalds slamming trump. Pretty funny

Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Mar 16, 2017

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Office Pig posted:

A while back, Tucker Carlson elevated Trump's victory as the result of people fed up with a system from which they saw no benefit or promise.

Someone in this thread keeps describing Republicans as a Death Cult. I'm starting to come around to that idea.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

gently caress this guy's actually competent at his job.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Handsome Ralph posted:

Like how the gently caress do you measure "success" with that and meals on wheels?

People get fed, mission accomplished. Sorry feeding Grandma didn't result in a .000025 increase in the GDP.

Food in schools was an attempt to not have scrawny malnourished people to feed into the army in case of a draft. Feeding Meemaw is just a nice thing to do, because you'd feel bad if Meemaw went hungry because she's home bound and doesn't have fam to feed her.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

VikingSkull posted:

Defense is the elephant in the room but to do it would mean you accept the US taking a smaller role in world affairs and apparently no one really wants Russia and/or China to fill the void.

Well.. no one except Alt-Right people and Trump.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Lol Spicey playing the "YOU GUYS ONLY COVER WHEN WE DO BAD THING AND ARE PROVEN WRONG!"

mlmp08 posted:

Aaaaand here's part of the problem. Why not increase tax revenue?

Because getting blood[money] from a stone[poor people] is impossible and lol if you think this admin would dream of passing taxes on anyone above a million dollar threshold.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Third World Reggin posted:

Please by nice to spicer. He was practicing this speech for a long time which is why he was late getting here.

Bullshit, my Coms1101 teacher didn't allow us to read verbatim from a prepared speech. Only let us use note cards.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

shyduck posted:

None of the NYT articles he cited support their claims

This is beyond batshit

I am glad the other guy isn't the press secretary. It's a small blessing that Trump et al tend to be really bad at their jobs.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Jesus gently caress Spicey, you just had to say "Yes, the president stands by this". You'd think he'd have learned by now he does nothing but make himself seem worse when he talks longer.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Godholio posted:

From the very last page, and there are plenty of public officials that like using DOD as the "perfect target" for budget cuts. We've seen it since 1992, and at some point we go too far, but the defense budget is still the big target because it's a huge amount of money and barring a major war when it's too late, there's almost no way to prove that we've gone too far.

I mean what else you're gonna cut? Military at 16% of the budget, Medicare at 27% of the budget, or Social Security at 33%? Everything else tends to be one or two percent of the budget.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Don't the republican proposals disproportionately affect red counties and red states? A lot of suffering which is regretful, but a lot of schadenfreude as well.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Office Pig posted:

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/844181736481325056

Not really news or anything, just pointing out that Trump is a whipping boy for Russian gangsters, no biggie.

:catstare:

At the intelligence meeting someone pointed out, "All these people connected to trump with Russian ties. Could all this just be an unfortunate coincidence?" this is just insane.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010


:stare: I just realized this is going to be the future of politics once the 85-90's people start getting political office.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

I know gently caress all about the army, so be patient. When my brother signed up at a recruiting station they had him sign a contract listing the MOS he wanted to get and all that good poo poo, if the military is hard up for folks is there room to negotiate the terms of a re-enlistment? Like I want MOS a,b,c,d, or e and if there isn't a spot within 45 days of signing the contract becomes void? Or is it more similar to getting a bunch of boiler plate and they hand you santa's wishlist?

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Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010


brb starting a VPN business.

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