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starkebn posted:So if he's prone to automatism he can't be a police officer any more right? Right? You cant be prone to it, im trying to find another case that didnt involve sleepwalking or head injury and coming up empty. Automatism as in "blind rage" does not exist, well it didn't until now.
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You Am I posted:He's like a young Russ Hinze "Tell me your secrets sugar cane"
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starkebn posted:So if he's prone to automatism he can't be a police officer any more right? Right? I imagine it more hinges on the fact he was just in a rather horrific crash, and so went into automatism mode, which isn't such an unheard of thing. But... that's in terms of people pulling themselves free of a crash. I've never heard of someone going into murder mode. Flight or fight I guess? Sets a dangerous precedence I would think.
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So I hear Joyce really wowed 'em on The Project.
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Starshark posted:So I hear Joyce really wowed 'em on The Project. It was a train wreck and he left looking like a petulant child
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Starshark posted:So I hear Joyce really wowed 'em on The Project. I happened to see it, it was pretty amusing. The weirdest thing about it was that Waleed and Gorgi were actually wrapping up the interview when Barnacle started melting down like a bawling toddler. If he would have just had the self control to shut his mouth for ten seconds, the interview would have just been over and he would have not looked half as dumb 
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Lid posted:Just so everyone know automatism defences NEVER work and never get run for this reason. That this worked at all is insanely rare and a huge what the actual gently caress. This is most likely criminal victim therefore judge didnt care. Yeah wow hey, I'd be interest to know about what the psychologist actually said. I wouldn't think that the psychologist would even be allowed to comment about the events.
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Konomex posted:I imagine it more hinges on the fact he was just in a rather horrific crash, and so went into automatism mode, which isn't such an unheard of thing. But... that's in terms of people pulling themselves free of a crash. I've never heard of someone going into murder mode. Flight or fight I guess? I'm going to say someone who loses any semblance of self control or restraint when involved in high stress situations is not in fact suitable to being a police officer
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xIhnTei-cQ&t=180s Pertinent part is only 30s long but you can watch further, inc Davids McGhan.
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Pauline doubling down on Putin
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She's also come out in favour of penalty rate cuts as she's an experienced former fish and chip shop owner and knows what businesses need.
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quote:“My comments were I respect the man. He is very patriotic towards his country, the people love him, he is doing so well for the country. So many Australians here want that leadership here in Australia.” Pretty accurate.
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These seem relevant https://twitter.com/TimWattsMP/status/838156693343105024
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Looks like I wasn't the only one to spot the similarities: http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/rearvision/fascism/8290008 quote:Fascism Sunday 5 March 2017 12:05PM A pretty interesting listen if you have half an hour which ends by positing that just noting it and reporting it makes you part of an updated Godwin law. What really should be asked is how does any insight or understanding help to protect democracy from the current threat. In this context it isn't hard to see why PHON would be supporting Putin, Trump and any other ruthless dictator. Next it will be 'Kim Jong-un, he's just a bit of a naughty boy really'.
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Godwin himself stated that Godwin's Law doesn't apply if you're talking about actual fascists.
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The Deadly Hume posted:Godwin himself stated that Godwin's Law doesn't apply if you're talking about actual fascists.
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I think the main reason why Hitler's legacy lasted so long was because what he did was directly lived by so many people who shared their stories pretty much straight away both during and after WW2. Having the last generation who lived through it quickly dying off means we have nobody around who actually remember what it was like personally, so we have to rely on much more tenuous stories from film and books. Its much easier for the modern fascist to dismiss this sort of namecalling because they didn't have to live through the direct effects of this sort of fascism themselves.
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Like that Spencer guy getting an elbow to the face on camera doesn't get the fact that during the 30s in Germany he could get much worse for much less and seemingly at random. His assumption is that merely being on the same side as the oppressors guarantees immunity to future elbows to the face.
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Yeah, that does stand to reason, and might be one of the things that comes with normalisation. "Are you sure he's a fascist? He doesn't seem that bad to me?" Meanwhile the Hispanics/Jews/Muslims in your neighbourhood start walking around in fear of what's going to happen next. EDIT: This stuff passing out of living memory does has an effect, too, I think. At mum's old work the guy who organised her payroll was postwar migrant from Germany, a lovely old man; I remember reading his wife's memoir of when they were pre-war Germany and remarking that someone in their street had been disappeared for simply having the BBC Overseas Service on their radio. They decided to get the hell out of there when they got the chance. The Deadly Hume fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Mar 5, 2017 |
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I'm not sure that Fascism really describes PHON. My understanding of fascism was that the individual worked for the ultimate good of the national strength (which was usually defined in a ubermenschen sort of way) happily enough making a buck as well.. I think a majority of PHON supporters want to do whatever they like, including being rascist pricks. Other than that they want the smallest government lossible, or if it's a big government, it spends its time persecuting those other people.
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Capt.Whorebags posted:I'm not sure that Fascism really describes PHON. My understanding of fascism was that the individual worked for the ultimate good of the national strength (which was usually defined in a ubermenschen sort of way) happily enough making a buck as well.. or OR... their material concerns have become so bad that they are willing to place them over and above all other considerations when determining who best to lead the country, and whichever stupid numpty promises to address their material concerns is the one for them
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The Deadly Hume posted:
Yeah, this is pretty much why my grandfather's family noped out of Germany in the mid 30s. They were Jewish and saw enough of the things that were happening to realise getting out of dodge was the smart plan. Some of the extended family didn't have the same foresight and got to spend the rest of the war enjoying the Nazi's hospitality, to varying results.
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Whilst not advocating for assassination. At what point does it become a viable idea? If you had the chance to murder the Nazi party before they came to power, would you do it? If someone advocates for Nazi ideas, is it your morale duty to explode them?
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Konomex posted:Whilst not advocating for assassination. At what point does it become a viable idea? I claim that if somebody could magically go back in time and stop the Nazis from gaining power the world as we know it now would be unrecognisable for how differently the path each person and nation would have taken in the aftermath. This isn't necessarily a good thing either.
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Just look at what people are doing now, it's what people would do as Nazis 2.0: The Reichening kicks off. So for me it's shitposting and crying myself to sleep.
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Tough call, that 2% for petty theft could come with a torture and death sentence in 1933.
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More importantly, is performing a perfunctory act with no consequences beyond making somebody unhappy unethical, even if that person is Literally Hitler i say no but it's a very dumb question imo
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ungulateman posted:More importantly, is performing a perfunctory act with no consequences beyond making somebody unhappy unethical, even if that person is Literally Hitler Depends on your perspective I guess. Analysing it from a materialist perspective (and therefore utilitarian, which is the only way to evaluate these things, fight me) the choice can be made simply by balancing the chance of being caught against the material gain to yourself relative to your existing asset base. It's well known that Hitler was independently wealthy and while it would ruin his night, he would not be materially affected beyond maybe not being able to pay for dinner. He won't starve, and more to the point he might receive sympathy from Eva Braun and maybe a hug. Meanwhile assuming that 2% worked in your favour and the wallet contained enough money the risk might well have been worth it. Of course if you're some idiot who values rules and laws over and above your own security (inc. food security) then go ahead and leave it in his pocket.
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Or, if you feel compelled to evaluate it from a Freudian perspective, the wallet represents repressed desire for your mother and the act of taking it is a way to break the taboo's influence on your mind. The aftereffects of this may well be too uncomfortable to bear.
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Les Affaires posted:Or, if you feel compelled to evaluate it from a Freudian perspective, the wallet represents repressed desire for your mother and the act of taking it is a way to break the taboo's influence on your mind. The aftereffects of this may well be too uncomfortable to bear. This isn't the Freudian perspective
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