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Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

I'd quote the guy's response, but I don't want that poo poo in my posting history.
What I will say is, holy poo poo this guy is an intellectual titan. Right up there with the very finest minds of our world. Clearly takes the time and effort to ensure his points are well articulated and come across in a very poignant and - some would even dare say - sane fashion.

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Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

The Deadly Hume posted:

Now I remember why I stopped posting in these threads because I wasted too much time posting these stupid braindumps

I stopped because I was a white noise machine that no-one here liked. At least your reason is half decent.

As a realtalk question, is there any hope of having Shorten moved on?
Like if Turnbull gets knifed (I can't seriously believe that's an if not a when, goddamn it Tony) and Dutton comes on the scene and the Leader Preferred still doesn't get above 50 does Labour start looking at potential replacements?

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Solemn Sloth posted:

I have been pleasantly surprised by the state labor government many times since their election, they are continuing to come out with smart and targeted policies. I hope that media hyperbole around the CFA and SkyRail and the loving grift of the scumfuck Speaker of the House doesn't let the Coalition get a look in to undo the good work next year.

The CFA beat up was loving disgusting. Right up there with the Medicare beat up. gently caress me that whole campaign was bad.

Outside of this latest grift scandal, the state government has been really good.

Cleretic posted:

Damnit. I trust the people who told me that to have their facts straight to some level, so I know 455 votes is a tangible figure that comes from somewhere. Maybe that's where the number looked to be before full counting was done? I know the seat took ages to count because the AEC's counting methods struggle with when there's more than two parties in strong contention.

It was still a really strong showing that could definitely lead to the seat flipping Green down the line.

iirc there was a thing where if the Greens got more first preference votes than Labor (20,179 vs 22,897) then we would have seen some poo poo go down. Danby had two how to vote cards, and in Jewish areas was issuing HTVs with Liberals as a higher preference than the Greens which goes against general party policy.
This had to do with the Greens member being ?publically anti-Zionist? or something.

The Greens did good, but Danby is gonna get another crack at holding his seat and he'll probably do the HTV card thing again. While he's in there and while the Greens run anti-Zionist candidates, the door is not slammed as shut for the Liberals in Melbourne Ports as it perhaps should be.

Schlesische fucked around with this message at 12:11 on Mar 5, 2017

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Cartoon posted:

They could also have a fascist government at the whim of the media. I recommend the Scandinavian soft socialist countries:- Finland, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Holland(?). A friend lives in Switzerland and likes it. Germany might be OK too.

Read NedPol, it's not as rosy as it seems. Seriously looks like they're going to give Geert Wilders' party the most seats (although he probably won't be in the governing coalition).

Trudeau is scary popular, and while he's a "meh" leader at best, he's not going anywhere for a while. His leader preferred is 48%, which doesn't sound good until you realise it's in 3pp.

Switzerland is super expensive.

I can't really find anything about the rest unless you dislike the cold. (Danes have a strong reputation for Racism, Swedes have a reputation for being arrogant snobs and Finns have a reputation for being really quiet and insular).

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Who takes over if Turnbull gets knifed?

Isn't that the real holdup?

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

I remember watching Trudeau's win.

It was something like this.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Senor Tron posted:

I'm fully expecting SA to buck the trend and end up as the only Coalition state government soon. That said all this Tesla stuff in the news the last couple of days is a wildcard, the power outages have really hurt the government but if they can get consistent messaging about how it's the result of Lib privatisation and they are doing things to fix it everything could flip.

If Turnbull gets knifed and replaced with someone as staggeringly incompetent as Dutton, Federal politics are highly likely to reach down and have a large impact.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Bogan King posted:

Maybe the Nats are pissed enough to vote with the ALP

I'd love to see Labor go to the Nats and say "we won't touch Royalties for Regions if you guys vote with us in the upper house".

They won't. They also won't stop Roe 8 or hike up royalties on mining companies. I don't think they'll sell Western Power though, if they do they're going to get destroyed on a scale that makes this election win look like a line call.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

I don't think the WA Nationals will actually do something that will genuinely gently caress over the Liberals. The Federal Nationals have too much skin in the game for them to accept that course.

The Liberals will probably not go an do a preference deal with One Nation in QLD, and that will be the bigger story.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Konomex posted:

Have you met Brendon Grylls? He'd gladly knife the Liberals in the back and gently caress their skull.

He's not a shoe-in to stay in Parliament.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Konomex posted:

Yeah, all this beer talk is weird. I don't know anything about beer except I tried over 300 of them and they were all poo poo.

But enough about your homebrew.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Solemn Sloth posted:

So Victoria has been floating some potential changes to the Residential Tenancies Act including support for 5/10 year leases, limiting rent increases, allowing long term tenants to make modifications and banning no pet clauses.

The Real Estate peak body is having a fit, the funniest bit of which is threatening that some landlords will exit the market and invest elsewhere, as if lovely landlords not outcompeting potential owner-occupiers would be bad for anyone other than the parasites themselves.

Presumably it'd also be bad for developers since people who buy to rent typically have significantly lower standards than people who buy to own.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

The Deadly Hume posted:

BTW, the bubble popping is the optimistic scenario.

I don't know how a banking meltdown could be an optimistic scenario.
I'm assuming you mean that housing affordability surpasses Vancouver and heads into Hong Kong territory.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

MysticalMachineGun posted:

The nerd boner for nuclear power mystifies me. Chatting to some guys at work about nuclear vs renewables, I raised an article I read ages ago that it would take 20 years for nuclear to be viable in Australia, but renewables are ready now. And they kept saying that nuclear would improve its technology but "there's no guarantee that renewables will get more efficient" and it's like, gently caress, engineers are working on both, what's the difference?

It takes like 20 years to go from site selection, reactor design, plant design, plant construction, first criticality, testing and then finally live power generation. Especially in the post "BUT IT MIGHT BLOW UP" world.

And then you have all the neckbeards who will go BUT IN 20 YEARS CHINA WILL HAVE (testing stage) FUSION.
Fusion is like 50 years away from Australia.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

BBJoey posted:

nah mate ANSTO has all the nuclear knowhow, why yes we have been cutting ANSTO's budget for years why do you ask

ANSTO's reactors and knowledge base is also relatively unequipped for a large scale modern power generating set up.

starkebn posted:

Isn't there a whole bunch of other supporting industries that should be built up as well? And education? I don't think this government really digs that kind of project.

The cost of Nuclear is enormous. Having said that, you can magically take Sydney or Melbourne out of the "needs more power generation" equation for the next time.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

cheese-cube posted:

Wasn't there a row a few years ago from some NIMBYs who found out that spent nuclear fuel was going to be transported by road nearby? Unless they plan on storing spent fuel in country they'll need to get it to a port somehow which will undoubtedly piss the same dinguses off.

You have to store spent fuel in country.
The row was in regards to spent fuel from France that was returning. It had been enriched in Australia at Lucas Heights and part of the sale condition was that we would store it.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Capt.Whorebags posted:

There was some talk about legislating against organised boycotts when the Alan Jones turd hit the fan a couple of years ago, no doubt it's being put in the microwave for a reheat as we speak.

In b4 christian right organises boycott of Qantas flights.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Out of curiosity, what denomination does Abbott profess to?

Not taking it anywhere, just curious.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

ewe2 posted:

The same paralysis as in 2007 with Howard. You'd think that lately they'd be getting better at ditching bad leaders. They needed to be rid of him early and they put it off forever.

Weren't the WALibs hosed from the get go?
Wonderful combination of massive shortfalls in revenue combined with being the party that led to that despite having also presided over what should have been massive windfalls from mining should probably see you experience the landslide every time.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Lets all take a tour through suburban racism stories!

https://twitter.com/mrbenjaminlaw/status/844020354448211968

(Read through the comments, if you really want to)

I mean, as a not-white person I've had a few instances of "go back to where you come from gook" or "I don't wanna date a yellow person", but a couple of the stories in that comment section are pretty bad.


Spudd posted:

So did the babies whining about not being allowed to be racist win or not? There is a lot of noise that contradicts what I've read on my Facebook feed atm.

They haven't officially had the vote yet, but if Nick Xenophon's party votes en bloc, then it's hosed and it won't go further than announcing and re-raising it as an issue.
I can't seriously believe they thought all the saccharine bullshit being thrown out by the media (not even the right wing media, jesus) over Bill Leak's death would get it through.

Schlesische fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Mar 21, 2017

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

ef;b

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

asio posted:

labor never really dumped the white australia policy.

When you talk to their Cuntry and Regional voters, you'll see why very very quickly.

There are a surprising amount of Labor voters who would actually be better off voting for the Liberals but won't because "THATS MY, THATS MY, THATS MY THATS MY TEAAAM".

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Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

She reminds me a lot of Bendigo people.
In that, she doesn't have any exposure to most minorities but does get the value of "helping the little guy" over "fygm".

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