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warcrimes posted:He was available for a mid round pick and would have to renegotiate his contract. That kind of stuff happens all the time. True though, Denver did inquire but gave up pretty fast Teams didn't want to give up picks for a mediocre starter and that explains why he's now viewed as worse then the shitawful garbage currently infesting rosters like EJ Manuel.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:That 2007 QB draft class was something. 2013 is rivaling it EJ Manuel Geno Smith Mike Glennon Matt Barkley Ryan Nassib Tyler Wilson Landry Jones Brad Sorensen Zac Dysert BJ Daniels Sean Renfree Luckily 2001 has Vick and Brees, so it's not some 6 year QB curse we have to worry about Kalli fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Mar 23, 2017 |
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If those were my testicles I'd pain olympics myself ... man, I am having a day. Kalli fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Mar 23, 2017 |
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Volkerball posted:It's not a draft, dude. Players aren't signed in order from best to worst. EJ got signed for dirt cheap to be a backup/3rd string. Kaep is going to want to go somewhere where he can compete to be a starter. That ain't happening in Oakland. Is there anything from Kaepernick about contract demands or competing to be a starter?
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Mar 23, 2017 20:59
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^^^ True enough, if Tannehill / Cousins can have a Hasselbeck like career then Wilson and Luck have a pretty good shot of it. a neat cape posted:The 2004 QB draft was 13 years ago. When do we get another one of those? I don't think there was even one in the 90's, so it could be awhile... the closest are either '93 (Bledsoe, Trent Green and Mark Brunell), '98 (Peyton and Matt Hasselbeck) or '99 (McNabb and Culpepper) But every year pales in comparison to '83 or '04 for QB's. Also funny note since I was looking at PFR's draft tables. Ryan Lindley has a -4 career AV. I didn't think it could be negative. Kalli fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Mar 23, 2017 |
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Mar 23, 2017 22:22
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The worst case scenario for Luck is he's Brett Favre.
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Mar 23, 2017 22:57
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Washington submits a good proposal:
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Mar 24, 2017 21:39
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I don't particularly care, but seeing how almost every team has good looking threads, I'd rather not see:
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Mar 27, 2017 00:32
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a neat cape posted:What would make Miami of all teams opposed? From his mouth:  Good if true.
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Mar 27, 2017 20:36
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That loving Tebow rear end windup 20 seconds in, my god
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Mar 28, 2017 04:55
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DariusLikewise posted:Of course Bill Belichick would be the only one to opt out of the coaches union. It's not a union, it's just an association. Also, Sean Payton isn't in it, or at least wasn't in it for a number of years due to the bountygate stuff.
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Mar 28, 2017 15:48
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Eli Wiggum posted:There is one other coach not in that pic Adam Gase. I think both he and Belichick went to UF's pro day instead.
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fsif posted:https://twitter.com/eallenjets/status/846736005956694017 Hack feels like the kind of guy who's going to lose his backup job to some random 7th round Brian Hoyer clone. I am so into the idea of watching some jets preseason right now though.
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Mar 28, 2017 15:53
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TheChirurgeon posted:Did we discuss this proposed rule change by Washington? It'd at least keep people's attention slightly which is good, but feels pretty gimmicky. I'm fine with it, but I think they want to try to eliminate kickoffs, and they need something that convinces teams to boot it into the endzone instead of what teams like the Pats' did last year, which was try and land it just short so teams would have to return it and do poorly at it.
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Mar 28, 2017 18:17
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Intruder posted:Ultimate is also dumb and bad There was also this silly italian sport that was just basically an organized tailgate fight. Like Forty big dudes just squaring off in a mud pit and punching each other. Simultaneously a great and terrible sporting event. Great if you just imagine them screaming "THAT WAS MY FOLDING TABLE RANDY" at each other. ...Ba-Taoshi is pretty great though.
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Mar 28, 2017 18:21
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Mar 28, 2017 18:49
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TBeats posted:But that's already illegal. Say there's 10s left in the half, and you're on D. O's going to try and run 1 play before attempting a FG, but definitely doesn't have time for two. On the snap, everyone on D holds like crazy, runs 6s off the clock. Move forward 5 yards, attempt the kick, you are 100% for sure not giving up a TD there. Or the Ravens in one game last year, 10s left, they have to punt. Entire offense just tackles everyone on the D, punter runs around until time expires then takes a knee.
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Mar 28, 2017 19:43
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I was looking around for something and found something pretty novel, a game in which a team never played a 4th down: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200812210det.htm Saints score on every drive except for a fumble while up 42-7 in the 4th quarter and then a kneel down to end it. The 2008 Lions were kinda bad.
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Mar 30, 2017 15:38
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I ran a search with punts, 4th down attempts and FG attempts set to 0 since 1991 and only turned up two single team performances... That Saints vs Lions game and a 2006 Bengals vs Raiders game. The Bengals only won 27-10... because they turned the ball over 4 times. Their drives went: Interception Touchdown Touchdown Fumble Interception End of Half Touchdown Touchdown Interception End of Game That's... glorious.
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TheChirurgeon posted:AKA "Why the Cowboys were able to outplay their level of talent on Defense last year" This is cool, and started looking at the bottom and realized, oh right, the %'s are so low due to how often teams spent tied, so started looking into how often was a team losing: % of offensive snaps while losing: Browns: 68% 49ers: 63% Jets: 63% Jaguars: 60% Rams: 56% Texans: 47% ... Patriots: 17% If anyone wants to calculate the rest, I don't know of an easier way then going to the Splits By Score Differential table for each team like: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/htx/2016_splits.htm ... how did the Texans win 9 games while trailing half the time? Kalli fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Mar 31, 2017 |
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weird Asian candy posted:Atlanta would have won the Superbowl last year if games ended after 3 quarters bruh... You're gonna get into some North Carolina poo poo if that's your attitude buddy.
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Ehud posted:brady is a system QB and that system is called cheating and having a tiny baby bitch arm His arm got strong wearing all those rings.
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Mar 31, 2017 18:16
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rare Magic card l00k posted:That drop from the 3rd quarter, which is actually almost decent, to the 4th quarter is amazing for the Browns. The 49ers one is interesting, because it seems like Chip Kelly has a good plan to attack the defense to start a game, but then failed in adjustments / talent gap as the game progressed.
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Durandal1707 posted:How come Jordan didn't work out? I remember vaguely Dolphin fans complaining he was being misused but that's about all. Football Outsiders has a metric with a pretty.... iffy history that absolutely hated Dion Jordan in sackseer. It combines a formula made up of: 1) An "explosion index" that measures the prospect’s scores in the forty-yard dash, the vertical jump, and the broad jump in pre-draft workouts; 2) A metric called "SRAM" which stands for "sack rate as modified." SRAM measures the prospect’s per game sack productivity, but with adjustments for factors such as early entry in the NFL Draft and position switches during college; 3) The prospect’s college passes defensed divided by college games played; and 4) A metric that measures the prospect’s missed games of NCAA eligibility. This metric includes games missed for reasons such as time spent in Junior College, academic problems, injuries, benchings, and suspensions. Their writeup for him was: quote:A decision to turn the card in for Dion Jordan is definitely a decision to bet on measurables. Jordan is a long, fast athlete at 6-foot-7 with 33 7/8-inch arms and a 4.60 forty time. The problem with Jordan is that he has tons of game experience but little production to show for it. In 39 games at Oregon, Jordan only recorded 14.5 sacks and two passes defensed. It is curious that Mingo absorbs so much criticism for his production against LSU, while Jordan receives little, when Mingo has outperformed Jordan on all fronts and against stronger competition. Jordan’s lack of passes defensed is especially concerning, given that scouting reports on Jordan note (positively) that he was regularly asked to drop into coverage, and thus likely had plenty of opportunities to make plays on the football. Jordan’s best-case scenario is probably to become Kamerion Wimbley -- another player with great athleticism and little sack Sackseer that year loved Jamie Collins and Ezekial Ansah, and hated Jarvis Jones a bit less then Dion Jordan. The problem was it also loved the heck out of Barkevious Mingo.
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Out of curiosity I grabbed a list of each guy they wrote about for Sackseer from 2012-2015 and tossed the rankings in a list: It's actually a healthy bit better then I thought it was with some obvious misses. 98.1 Khalil Mack 97.7 Jamie Collins 95.7 Vic Beasley 94.6 Bud Dupree 94.6 Barkevious Mingo 94.4 Jadeveon Clowney 91.3 Anthony Barr 90.6 Nick Perry 89.7 Randy Gregory 84.6 Kony Ealy 82.3 Ezekial Ansah 80.1 Damontre Moore 77.9 Frank Alexander 77.3 Bjorn Werner 75.2 Preston Smith 71.0 Kyle Van Noy 67.8 Eli Harold 64.5 Margus Hunt 64.2 Ronnell Lewis 62.9 Shea McClellin 60.6 Chandler Jones 58.7 Jarvis Jones 54.9 Andre Branch 52.3 Dion Jordan 51.3 Whitney Mercilus 43.3 Dante Fowler Jr 29.3 Dee Ford 28.1 Jonathan Massaquoi 26.4 Bruce Irvin 25.4 Quinton Coples 21.6 Melvin Ingram 18.5 Shane Ray 16.9 Vinny Curry 15.5 Courtney Upshaw 4.0 Michael Sam
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a neat cape posted:No guys it's because he's gay I re-read their writeup on him, because it's pretty interesting and points out he had a very productive senior season which helped buoy the case for him.. but also points out that it was a bit of a misnomer: quote:At the bottom of the page is a chart of all of the SackSEER projections for edge rushers who received an invite to this year’s NFL Combine. Of great interest to most readers will be Missouri defensive end Michael Sam, who seeks to make history by becoming the first openly gay player to play in the NFL. The Football Outsiders staff certainly has a great deal of admiration for Sam’s courage, and we will be rooting for him to succeed. SackSEER, however, is a series of equations that are indifferent towards a prospect’s strength of character. In Sam’s case, those equations are not kind. I also had posted this awhile ago in the draft thread, his mockdraftable spider chart is one of the worst for a combine prospect: https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/michael-sam?position=EDGE
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ulmont posted:Which way does it miss (I don't know these guys that well)? If all the misses are in the same direction, it could still be very useful. I need to take a look at it.... but it's the weekend, so it'll probably wait until I'm bored at work again. I think the sackseer stuff for this draft class is going up soon, so it'd be nice to compare. I know some guys like Mercilus, Shane Ray and Bruce Irvin are way overperforming those results, and Mingo was a huge bust, but at least some of the other whiffs are due to injuries which pretty much can be ignored. I think the stat may actually be okay, at least for the top end guys.... There's also tables of everyone from the combine, and I think those numbers are all over the place.
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Gronk owns. I don't think Adrian is a good fit. He could be used like how the Pats used Blount, but... old guys are really bad bangers. He might be using this trip as a way to drum up interest I guess?
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My twitter feed is nothing but wrassling mat gifs and I'm pretty convinced the NFL needs to take this technology and greenscreen out the field and replace it with giant graphics everytime a team gets into the red zone or a QB gets sacked or a score happens.
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Tom Brady lost his jersey again: https://twitter.com/TylerSully/status/848957937229991936
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It's fine if a guy is completely one dimensional if you can use him in that fashion. Like, with the Raiders' oline, using AD as a part time guy, that'd be fine. He'd be used like how the Patriots' used Blount, occasionally on 1st down, comes in on ... and short downs and in the red zone and as closer. If he's right, he's a steam roller you have to worry about, and helps sell the play action even if he himself isn't a receiving weapon. That said, he's 32 and steam rollers age very poorly. If he wants to try and be Jerome Bettis his way to a ring, he may be able to, but I'm not exactly excited about him. I'd probably rather have Blount, and I don't think that highly of Blount either.
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