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... are you legally or morally culpable for the aftermath? You may have read the story of a partially-clothed Florida man (of course) who killed two people in their own garage and was found chewing on the face of the man he had killed. Later, in an interview, Austin Harrouff stated that before he attacked the couple, he had been fleeing from a demon named Daniel. No drugs such as bath salts were found in his system. However, Austin lived with his parents, and his mother mentioned that he claimed to have superpowers and had moved his bed to the garage because he was afraid of demons in the house. Also, earlier on the day of the attack, she'd found him trying to drink a bottle of cooking oil. She stopped him but later discovered him eating a bowl of cooking oil mixed with cheese. I wondered how it was that his own family could let this go on. The demon thing could be a religious belief, but many insane people have committed murder because they suddenly decided a person was demon-possessed? Worthy of some kind of evaluation, anyway. And superpowers? And also you have him trying to drink something that clearly isn't intended as food? Austin was a bodybuilder who majored in exercise science. He would know that you don't drink cooking oil - if he were in his right mind, that is. He might as well have been trying to drink a bottle of bleach except that cooking oil wouldn't directly kill him, only make him sick. Interestingly, in the garage after the murders, he drank a caustic chemical that burned his throat. I think there's some culpability on his mother's part because she saw all of this going on and apparently shrugged it off. I wouldn't just tell my college-educated adult son to stop drinking cooking oil and then go "oh well" when he did it again later. As harsh as it would seem, I think he should have been Baker Acted until he could be formally diagnosed and treated. Then again, if he had been receiving help from the "I have superpowers" point, more drastic action might not have been necessary. His mother said he'd been acting strange for weeks. I don't have any legal background, but I bet someone here does. And morally, what do you think your responsibility is if a close family member is going insane in a may-hurt-himself-or-others way and you don't take meaningful action? http://www.wsbtv.com/news/dr-phil-interview-of-facebiting-suspect-to-be-released/498205298
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The best part of that story is everyone assumed he was on bath-salts but he turned out to be completely sober!
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Mar 2, 2017 21:15
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The free market would sort it out if we'd just take a step back from regulation and let it.
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Mar 2, 2017 21:17
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i heard that he had marijuana in his system and that he ate that guy's face because he had a bad case of the munchies.
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Mar 2, 2017 21:37
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cooking oil ---> cooking oil + cheese ---> ??? ---> man's face
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Mar 2, 2017 21:40
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loving florida
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Mar 2, 2017 21:43
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you're telling me this Daniel demon is still out there? 
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Mar 2, 2017 21:48
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what were his powers
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Mar 2, 2017 21:49
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Hell Yeah posted:cooking oil ---> cooking oil + cheese ---> ??? ---> man's face "cheese + man's face" is the missing phase, like eating cheese on broccoli to mask the strong flavor, and then you graduate to man's face sans cheese
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Mar 2, 2017 21:50
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green chicken feet posted:I think there's some culpability on his mother's part because she saw all of this going on and apparently shrugged it off. I wouldn't just tell my college-educated adult son to stop drinking cooking oil and then go "oh well" when he did it again later. As harsh as it would seem, I think he should have been Baker Acted until he could be formally diagnosed and treated. Then again, if he had been receiving help from the "I have superpowers" point, more drastic action might not have been necessary. His mother said he'd been acting strange for weeks. It isn't like she saw him doing something illegal, like smoking a joint. America is all about living your life with unlimited freedom.
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Mar 2, 2017 21:50
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that op feels like d&d to me op just basing this humble opinion on the first line + responses
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Mar 2, 2017 21:51
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I think I kind of liken it to when your family member is really sick or injured and needs you to take them to the hospital but you don't. Sucks that mental healthcare is so stigmatized and hard to get in this country. Sucks about our healthcare in general really. Neutrino posted:It isn't like she saw him doing something illegal, like smoking a joint. America is all about living your life with unlimited freedom. Ordinarily sure but at some point you are not of sound mind and thus not capable of making free decisions on your own. Like if someone just had their arm ripped off and is shock and says "I'm fine I don't need to go to the hospital" you don't just go "ok then" and walk away.
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Mar 2, 2017 21:52
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Maybe he was constipated? If you're going to call the cops on everyone who seeks relief from constipation I've got a long list of names for ya pal!
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Mar 2, 2017 21:53
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see this is why you lease children instead of going all-in
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Mar 2, 2017 21:55
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he must have ate a man's face carved into cheese
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Mar 2, 2017 21:57
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Parallax Scroll posted:what were his powers Probably the most important question that the article sadly leaves unanswered. Clearly nothing that would be useful in a fight with Daniel, so what good were they?
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Mar 2, 2017 22:04
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The Protagonist posted:that op feels like d&d to me op Maybe it will find a home there after it develops a healthy fear of the demons in GBS.
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Mar 2, 2017 22:06
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I saw the thread title and thought this was gonna be an "if a tree falls in the forest" thing.
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Mar 2, 2017 22:11
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Just watched a chick eat 5 pounds of waffles on the youtube. I'm on the phone now with the loony bin on her behalf.
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Mar 2, 2017 22:11
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A cousin of mine went crazy when his wife filed for divorce, but all he did was Facebook post approximately 75-100 terrible redpill memes about how women be crazy in the span of about an hour, with increasingly incoherent captions. He also liked all of his own posts, the madman. The whole family p much just watched and I think now he's in "rehab"
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Mar 2, 2017 22:20
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shes mentally fat
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Mar 2, 2017 22:20
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What if a family member is becoming a fat shut-in hardcore alcoholic? Should they do anything?
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Mar 2, 2017 22:29
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Colonel Cancer posted:What if a family member is becoming a fat shut-in hardcore alcoholic? Should they do anything? 
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Mar 2, 2017 22:36
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Maybe he just thought faces taste good?
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Mar 2, 2017 23:07
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I hear you get free popcorn chicken in jail. Not all you can eat but pretty drat close
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Smoking_Dragon posted:The best part of that story is everyone assumed he was on bath-salts but he turned out to be completely sober! sounds like the bath salt companies will easily win the libel lawsuit here. Jerry Mumphrey posted:I hear you get free popcorn chicken in jail. Not all you can eat but pretty drat close
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lol no the whole point is that your family members are the only people who know how crazy you really are and vice versa. you don't break that conspiracy of silence just because someone goes off the deep end and gets the munchies for a California Cheeseburger
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Mar 3, 2017 00:28
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The next Slenderman: Daniel
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Colonel Cancer posted:What if a family member is becoming a fat shut-in hardcore alcoholic? Should they do anything? Bro just leave me alone fucks sake
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Mar 3, 2017 00:37
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Jake Mustache posted:Just watched a chick eat 5 pounds of waffles on the youtube. I'm on the phone now with the loony bin on her behalf. I was thinking of putting some kind of disclaimer on my original post because of that cooking lady on YouTube with the forehead so fat it sticks out as far as her nose. If you see a morbidly obese person eat a lot of something unhealthy, they probably aren't insane. They probably just have a severe eating disorder and at the worst they will die an early death but from prolonged illness rather than suddenly drinking bleach. Their bulk also severely impacts the mobility essential for an effective ambush-style attack.
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green chicken feet posted:I was thinking of putting some kind of disclaimer on my original post because of that cooking lady on YouTube with the forehead so fat it sticks out as far as her nose. If you see a morbidly obese person eat a lot of something unhealthy, they probably aren't insane. They probably just have a severe eating disorder and at the worst they will die an early death but from prolonged illness rather than suddenly drinking bleach. Their bulk also severely impacts the mobility essential for an effective ambush-style attack. what if they attack from uphill
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green chicken feet posted:I was thinking of putting some kind of disclaimer on my original post because of that cooking lady on YouTube with the forehead so fat it sticks out as far as her nose. If you see a morbidly obese person eat a lot of something unhealthy, they probably aren't insane. They probably just have a severe eating disorder and at the worst they will die an early death but from prolonged illness rather than suddenly drinking bleach. Their bulk also severely impacts the mobility essential for an effective ambush-style attack. so wait are you saying you should only report your mental family members in case they are crazy enough to go on a killing spree, not out of concern for their wellbeing? pretty cold, dude
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Parallax Scroll posted:what if they attack from uphill please how are they gonna get uphill are you even thinking when you post god
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Typical parents can be liable for he acts of their minor children if there is a history of violence. Adults are typically responsible for their own behavior. At any rate you need a violent history to get anywhere. Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Mar 3, 2017 |
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No civil liability unless if they owed the face-chewee a special duty of care. No criminal liability unless if the jurisdiction has some bizzare and probably unconstitutional statute.
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Mar 3, 2017 00:57
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Moridin920 posted:please how are they gonna get uphill are you even thinking when you post god 
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Mar 3, 2017 01:00
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Moridin920 posted:please how are they gonna get uphill are you even thinking when you post god maybe they're already up there
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like that's where god put them
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Lemon posted:so wait are you saying you should only report your mental family members in case they are crazy enough to go on a killing spree, not out of concern for their wellbeing? pretty cold, dude Not sure about this but I don't think you can Baker Act someone for having an addiction. As far as maybe rehab being court-ordered, I'd imagine only if their addiction had somehow been to an illegal substance, or a factor in a crime...?
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Colonel Cancer posted:What if a family member is becoming a fat shut-in hardcore alcoholic? Should they do anything? I'd try an intervention in that case. Might be applicable for alcoholics or food addicts.
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