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the best ide in the world just got better
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Mar 7, 2017 18:41
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how so
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Mar 7, 2017 19:25
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well theres a new one
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Mar 7, 2017 19:26
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"We've improved IntelliSense performance on projects and files not using precompiled headers – an Automatic Precompiled Header will be created for headers in the current file." sweet edit "We've added error filtering and help for IntelliSense errors in the error list. Clicking on the error column now allows for filtering. Also, clicking on the specific errors or pressing F1 will launch an online search for the error message." hey cool they're catering to my dumb rear end
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Mar 7, 2017 19:29
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i'm excited. unfortunately my windows machine blue screens on restart now.
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Mar 7, 2017 19:29
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closest launch event is in akron ohio... how could they forget pittsburgh. those fuckers. gimme a t-shirt.
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Mar 7, 2017 19:52
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:"We've improved IntelliSense performance on projects and files not using precompiled headers – an Automatic Precompiled Header will be created for headers in the current file." when they announced this stuff at build a while back they litterrally introduced it as the stack overflow button
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Mar 7, 2017 19:54
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Shaggar posted:when they announced this stuff at build a while back they litterrally introduced it as the stack overflow button that website is like the library of Alexandria, when it tanks devs will lose like 90% of their knowledge
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Mar 7, 2017 20:39
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so are the menu labels all still uppercase
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Mar 7, 2017 21:00
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Is it still 32-bit-only? Does their C/C++ compiler still not have full C99 compatibility because Herb Sutter?
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Mar 7, 2017 21:33
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I didnt see anything about C99. I dont believe they have any intention of fully supporting it. MS has a C++ compiler, not a C compiler.
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Mar 7, 2017 21:53
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Now that they're starting to support LLVM and Clang, I wonder if they're gonna rip the C99 stuff that MSVC++ doesn't support out of the Clang builds they ship.  Also, doesn't C++11 specifically include C99? Anyway, it's a dumb line in the sand to draw IMHO.
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Mar 7, 2017 22:13
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2013 added support for all of the c99 features that are actually useful and that real projects use
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Mar 7, 2017 22:16
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Mar 7, 2017 22:22
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Doc Block posted:Now that they're starting to support LLVM and Clang, I wonder if they're gonna rip the C99 stuff that MSVC++ doesn't support out of the Clang builds they ship. no, eg restrict isn't in c++. can't comment on whether it's a dumb line to draw, that's probably a question of logistics and business for the MSVC compiler team.
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Mar 7, 2017 22:36
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COACHS SPORT BAR posted:so are the menu labels all still uppercase  (this is from VS 2015)
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Mar 7, 2017 22:48
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Potassium Problems posted:
I know, it's kind of about how absurd that all-uppercase thing was even just as a default setting
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Mar 8, 2017 00:08
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did you ever see the blog post justifying it? https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudio/2012/06/05/a-design-with-all-caps/ my favorite is "1) to keep Visual Studio consistent with the direction of other Microsoft user experiences". I can't think of any other app that had all caps menu titles, must have ditched that UX path pretty quickly, even Azure portal doesn't seem to have them anymore
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Mar 8, 2017 00:23
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all-caps menu bars was a metro thing but most metro apps didn't have menu bars so
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Mar 8, 2017 00:36
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i use visual studio code on my mac and its not bad
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Mar 8, 2017 01:48
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LOL visual studio 2017 is still a 32-bit-only program
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Mar 8, 2017 04:02
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at least the installer is better than 2015. now it's just regular slow and instead of "hit start and go do something else for an hour" slow
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Mar 8, 2017 14:14
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The_Franz posted:at least the installer is better than 2015. i'd be happy with "doesn't sometimes lock up hard while netinstalling for an entire day on package 1300 of 2000."
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Mar 8, 2017 14:45
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i only do powershell does visualstudio have anything to offer me?
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Mar 8, 2017 17:18
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cheese-cube posted:i only do powershell does visualstudio have anything to offer me? It's decent for powershell and has all the addins for it, but it's not really worth using over the ISE imo unless you have massive sprawling scripting projects or you're building a module.
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Mar 8, 2017 17:26
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Mar 8, 2017 17:31
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:It's decent for powershell and has all the addins for it, but it's not really worth using over the ISE imo unless you have massive sprawling scripting projects or you're building a module. cools thanks mang. i do a lot of PS but never get enough time to work on building modules or anything constructive 
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Mar 8, 2017 17:32
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cheese-cube posted:cools thanks mang. i do a lot of PS but never get enough time to work on building modules or anything constructive I use this personally because my whole life is in powershell these days but it isn't cheap.
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Mar 8, 2017 17:34
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http://www.secretgeek.net/vs2008_bugeye
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Mar 8, 2017 17:38
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:It's decent for powershell and has all the addins for it, but it's not really worth using over the ISE imo unless you have massive sprawling scripting projects or you're building a module. i think at the point that VS becomes more viable over ISE you probably should just be writing c#
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Mar 8, 2017 17:42
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pro av material 
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Mar 8, 2017 17:44
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Shaggar posted:i think at the point that VS becomes more viable over ISE you probably should just be writing c# Depends on what you're doing. I write a ton of stuff that either integrates with SCCM or is expected to run client-side on WMF 5.0 compliant machines, so it makes sense to write in something that both has native cmdlets for various functions AND can invoke whatever it wants in .NET on a whim. My big gripe with powershell is actually with the modules and the handling of them; most of time if something requires importing a module (looking at you, Active Directory) there's less overhead if you just write it using .NET instead of dealing with the bullshit. Biggest powershell LOL I can think of atm: not having any cmdlets for printers until Windows 10. Wrath of the Bitch King fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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Mar 8, 2017 17:44
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Shaggar posted:i think at the point that VS becomes more viable over ISE you probably should just be writing c# shaggar  Wrath of the Bitch King posted:My big gripe with powershell is actually with the modules and the handling of them; most of time if something requires importing a module (looking at you, Active Directory) there's less overhead if you just write it using .NET instead of dealing with the bullshit. i know exactly what you mean, many of the AD PS functions have extremely massive overhead which i've personnally had to write around and is not fun. Get-ADObject is always faster than any other Get-AD* cmdlet Wrath of the Bitch King posted:Biggest powershell LOL I can think of atm: not having any cmdlets for printers until Windows 10. i've actually dabbled in this area and yeah, pre WMF 5.0 dealing with printers was turbo-hosed
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Mar 8, 2017 17:49
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It's not even WMF 5.0, it's straight up Windows 10 . If you are on anything less you're hosed and are better off either dealing with WMI for that poo poo or using VBScript.
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Mar 8, 2017 17:51
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Potassium Problems posted:did you ever see the blog post justifying it? How about the entirety of Ms office around this time
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Mar 8, 2017 17:52
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:It's not even WMF 5.0, it's straight up Windows 10 . If you are on anything less you're hosed and are better off either dealing with WMI for that poo poo or using VBScript. yeah now that i remember you're right, i had to fall back to WMI because jfc it's garbage there's no loving interface
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Mar 8, 2017 17:54
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amazing
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Mar 8, 2017 18:02
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akadajet posted:amazing don2 on November 30, 2007 21:16 sez: Who the hell are you to be the judge of this guy's face?? That is a REAL person you are picking on. How would you feel if someone said those sorts of things about you. This is a person with feelings who can't help looking the way he looks? I am not going to unsubscribe I am just bringing out a YELLOW CARD warning for now.
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Mar 8, 2017 18:11
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Someone post the gif version w/ the moving eyes
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Mar 8, 2017 18:14
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I don't even think the guy is all that unnerving looking. Not even close to the Gamestop guy with a long neck that was a meme for a while.
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Mar 8, 2017 18:16
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