|
Dr. Fishopolis posted:i'm gonna pursue lu bu and there's nothing you can do to stop me It doesn't have a lu bu
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2020 21:06
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 6, 2024 05:48 |
|
|
Folt The Bolt posted:It doesn't have a lu bu Obviously, the Lu Bu analogue is going to be Yu Narukami
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2020 03:53
|
|
|
Blaze Dragon posted:Apparently Atlus is interested in porting things to Switch. Maybe it can get P5R alongside P5S after all. Portbegging Atlus is my favorite hobby but I would prefer it to be on PC so we can just get all their games in one place. Geostomp posted:It’s been nerfed hard, but the Jose mechanics more than make up for it. Just like how the Reaper no longer cares about flu season. What are the Jose mechanics?
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2020 04:00
|
|
|
Folt The Bolt posted:It still isn't a musou. I like how it looks and I'm getting it since it looks extremely my jam, but I'm not going into this with the kind of mindset that I go into musou games with. Just to give some idea how the game plays, it's similar to regular P5 where shadows are wandering around in the dungeon and you ambush them and they turn into small mobs of enemies. Fairly often there will be set encounters with medium sized mobs of enemies. In these rooms there are usually objects in the environment that you can use to attack, like jump onto a hanging chandelier and make it fall on enemies. Occasionally there are larger set pieces where you fight large waves of enemies, like defending Futaba from a large mob of enemies while she hacks a console to open a door. The larger set pieces are the most Musou-like parts of the game. There is a special meter that charges up and lets you do a big full screen attack but it charges up much slower than the ones in Musou games. In general while your basic attacks are combos which work like musou games, you will be doing a fair amount of hitting enemy weaknesses with spells and doing all-out attacks from them like in a Persona game. It's a pretty cool game, is anyone else here playing it?
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2020 06:12
|
|
|
Ulio posted:What are the Jose mechanics? Collect stamps (limited, roughly one available per floor) and trade them to Jose for big increases in the money, experience or items you can farm in Mementos. He also runs an item shop (for flowers, also collectible in Mementos but more plentiful) and can do some poo poo with the special new accessories you can find in palaces.
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2020 06:57
|
|
|
Magil of Shadow posted:Obviously, the Lu Bu analogue is going to be Yu Narukami ... He's not even in the game. Item Getter posted:Just to give some idea how the game plays, it's similar to regular P5 where shadows are wandering around in the dungeon and you ambush them and they turn into small mobs of enemies. Fairly often there will be set encounters with medium sized mobs of enemies. In these rooms there are usually objects in the environment that you can use to attack, like jump onto a hanging chandelier and make it fall on enemies. Occasionally there are larger set pieces where you fight large waves of enemies, like defending Futaba from a large mob of enemies while she hacks a console to open a door. The larger set pieces are the most Musou-like parts of the game. Getting it when it's localized.
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2020 07:16
|
|
|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yid-ghlgWr4
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2020 07:26
|
|
|
Folt The Bolt posted:... He's not even in the game. That's how they make sure you won't pursue him.
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2020 12:25
|
|
|
Folt The Bolt posted:It doesn't have a lu bu wait but it's a musou? how do you have a musou game without lu bu!?
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2020 16:27
|
|
|
Dr. Fishopolis posted:wait but it's a musou? how do you have a musou game without lu bu!? Do the crossover games usually have a Lu Bu? I don't remember who it might've been in Hyrule Warriors if there was one
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2020 16:32
|
|
|
Xad posted:Do the crossover games usually have a Lu Bu? I don't remember who it might've been in Hyrule Warriors if there was one ganondorf had several appearances in the story mode that basically amounted to him death-marching through your entire army as you tried to escape
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2020 16:33
|
|
|
I mean, clearly the reaper is going to be Lu Bu. He will pursue you.
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2020 17:10
|
|
|
Xad posted:Do the crossover games usually have a Lu Bu? I don't remember who it might've been in Hyrule Warriors if there was one I've only ever watched LPs of it but I think it's agreed that Volga (the dragon guy) is the Lu Bu. e: or yeah, Ganondorf on the stages he appears in.
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2020 17:10
|
|
|
For Persona I am pretty sure the Reaper would work as a stand in.
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2020 17:11
|
|
|
Xad posted:Do the crossover games usually have a Lu Bu? I don't remember who it might've been in Hyrule Warriors if there was one Volga and Ganondorf share the role of "Lu Bu" in Hyrule Warriors. Though, Volga is the closest since he has two battles where he powers up so much that you need to find a way to depower him. Ganondorf only really has the final battle, though he does have the first in-story battle where he appears as the opponent where he charges at Zelda near the end of the mission and kills her if you don't drop whatever you're doing to help her out. Ganondorf is also the only one of the two to have his own theme, which does play on a stage, but also plays in Adventure Missions where he's the enemy commander and you go to fight him. Uusually. In Fire Emblem Warriors, there's no Lu Bu per see as the game is more reliant on strategy than other Musous, though certain characters get his power up in certain story missions and you need to find a way around them or get absolutely chumped. Some History Map boss missions also do this where the enemy commander powers up so hard that you need to do a specific thing to make them into manageable fights. One Piece Pirate Warriors also doesn't have a Lu Bu archetype, though there's a mission in one of the OPPW3 story missions early on that gives the same "avoid until stronger" vibe. Persona 5 Scramble only really uses the Musou mechanics as each character's moveset and is thus not a Musou, but an Action RPG, as the Persona 5 elements are moreso the core than the Musou elements. Only certain points in the game has the large-scale Musou battle feel, and most of those are timed missions where you need to protect Futaba as she tries to hack through something to let you progress. Think moreso Kingdom Hearts than a Musou.
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2020 18:26
|
|
|
This conversation made me curious: Is the unstoppable Lu Bu as much of a meme in Japan as he is in the English-speaking world? Like, if you asked anybody who plays video games about Dynasty Warriors, if they knew what it was, one of the few things they'd know would be "do not pursue Lu Bu."
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2020 19:33
|
|
|
nrook posted:This conversation made me curious: Is the unstoppable Lu Bu as much of a meme in Japan as he is in the English-speaking world? Like, if you asked anybody who plays video games about Dynasty Warriors, if they knew what it was, one of the few things they'd know would be "do not pursue Lu Bu." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBBVPSsFCUc&t=71s
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2020 19:38
|
|
|
I love how you can instantly tell who everyone is, right down to Liu Bei's massive ears.
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2020 21:53
|
|
|
So the Ultimate edition of P5R has all the DLC? If I will probably end up buying all that bullshit anyway is there any reason not to get it?
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2020 22:00
|
|
|
The Ultimate edition comes with the steelbook instead of the regular case, if you care about that
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2020 22:12
|
|
|
I meant digital I'm sorry I should have been clear. I don't care about physical goods.
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2020 22:50
|
|
|
Arist posted:The Ultimate edition comes with the steelbook instead of the regular case, if you care about that Preordering any physical copy at all gets you a steelbook. cheesetriangles posted:So the Ultimate edition of P5R has all the DLC? If I will probably end up buying all that bullshit anyway is there any reason not to get it? That's what it says, but honestly you can never be 100% sure with preorders.
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 00:54
|
|
|
a fully retranslated script is maybe the one thing that would compel me to give royal a shot, if only to compare/contrast akechi would be interesting because his artificial unctuousness was his main personality trait and that actually benefited from the robotic localization
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 00:58
|
|
|
Oxxidation posted:a fully retranslated script is maybe the one thing that would compel me to give royal a shot, if only to compare/contrast Lol, nope
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 01:27
|
|
|
Actually, hold on a minute, I'm noticing some really, really minor dialogue changes, like the word "easier" being changed to "easy," but they didn't fix any of the actual awkward phrasing in that scene 
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 01:30
|
|
|
Arist posted:Actually, hold on a minute, I'm noticing some really, really minor dialogue changes, like the word "easier" being changed to "easy," but they didn't fix any of the actual awkward phrasing in that scene "you were doing things that you kept in secret from others" kee-rist i forgot how bad this could get
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 02:47
|
|
|
Blooming Villain got a cool remix. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaWNmRSdnnU
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 05:08
|
|
|
I like the original Blooming Villain better, though this version may be better suited to a fast paced action game where the bosses are sometimes small and fast moving instead of always big and imposing. The remix of Last Surprise is really good though.
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 05:33
|
|
|
The original version is great, but I'll take a ludicrous arena metal version too. It's a mood.
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 07:48
|
|
|
There are apparently tweaks that are bigger in some places https://mobile.twitter.com/Shock_and_Roll/status/1237408679252635648
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 08:17
|
|
|
TwoPair posted:There are apparently tweaks that are bigger in some places huh, might play this at some point after all. Probably not huge or anything but the new chapter+localization improvements+game being on the Switch would make me consider it
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 15:42
|
|
|
TwoPair posted:There are apparently tweaks that are bigger in some places that's the tweet that started this whole conversation. just changing a few of the especially egregious lines here and there isn't going to do it for me, but if that gets other people to bite then more power to them but man, the localization of the entire first act especially was so bad
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 15:45
|
|
|
Monkey Fracas posted:huh, might play this at some point after all. Probably not huge or anything but the new chapter+localization improvements+game being on the Switch would make me consider it This is not on Switch. Scramble is, Royal isn't. At least for now.
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 16:18
|
|
|
I am way more hyped for Scramble tbh. I'm not buying Persona 5 again for full price, that's for sure, regardless of how much they added. I get that it's a good move for them, they can milk new game hype out of it twice, but I do not get why I can't at least transfer my save so I can NG+ the new stuff instead of slogging through literally everything again.
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 16:23
|
|
|
Blaze Dragon posted:This is not on Switch. Scramble is, Royal isn't. At least for now. Yeah, ATLUS is doing this weird "ohhhh you want P5 on Switch huh? please tweet us about it a bunch and maaayyybe we'll consider it" thing
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 16:31
|
|
|
TwoPair posted:There are apparently tweaks that are bigger in some places It's good the game is getting retranslated since the original game was pretty bad, but in this particular instance I think the original is way better considering Ryuji's character. The new translation feels too flowery for him.
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 18:29
|
|
|
Dr. Fishopolis posted:I am way more hyped for Scramble tbh. Yeah Scramble is an actual entirely new game and pretty good, been enjoying it. I watched/read spoilers for all the new P5 Royal stuff, but if I was going into it blind I would definitely lose patience playing the whole 120 hour game again just to see one new dungeon.
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 18:52
|
|
|
Item Getter posted:I watched/read spoilers for all the new P5 Royal stuff, but if I was going into it blind I would definitely lose patience playing the whole 120 hour game again just to see one new dungeon.
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2020 15:59
|
|
|
Harlock posted:This is making me consider not getting it honestly. Golden had stuff remixed throughout, everything I'm hearing about Royal is that it doesn't kick in until you get to about where the regular game finishes. Royale changes how the bosses and their add-ons work quite a bit.
|
|
#
?
Mar 14, 2020 18:26
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 6, 2024 05:48 |
|
|
Harlock posted:This is making me consider not getting it honestly. Golden had stuff remixed throughout, everything I'm hearing about Royal is that it doesn't kick in until you get to about where the regular game finishes. From my understanding it changes all the bosses, there are some new hidden items to collect using a grappling hook to get to hidden places, there are some new mechanics involving Mementos and a new city area. There are also new social links and some new scenes involving the new characters. It's not nothing I just mean that any new major story developments don't happen until the end of the original game. Probably changed at least as much as Golden I don't know never bought a Persona re-release after P3 FES. Speaking of which P3 FES sure was the laziest in terms of updates to the main game, I think it was literally only "there are some videos you can watch in the SEES control room" and "you can walk the dog now." Also relegating the best level grinding area in the game to new game+ only.
|
|
#
?
Mar 15, 2020 06:10
|
|