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Gimme a Nemesis system game but in a dwarf city and all my foes are just men and women I've drank more than
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Aug 4, 2018 03:15
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Wolfsheim posted:The nemesis system but you're in Hobbiton and all the procedurally generated enemies are just distant relatives or neighbors trying to steal your silverware and other goods Immunities: Shame, Insinuations, Polite Requests to Leave Epic traits: Spoonthief, Mother-in-law
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Aug 4, 2018 03:18
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Enraged by: Lukewarm meat pie
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Aug 4, 2018 03:21
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Wolfsheim posted:The nemesis system but you're in Hobbiton and all the procedurally generated enemies are just distant relatives or neighbors trying to steal your silverware and other goods i'm extremely Here for this
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Aug 4, 2018 03:24
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Backhand posted:I know this game has a really stupid story, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't still like it. There's just something inherently powerful about the idea of a guy willingly accepting damnation, knowing full well that it can only possibly end one way, in exchange for giving everyone else a shot. A lot of people consider Talion painfully generic, and I suppose he is, but damnit, the guy is my kind of generic. Talion's a pretty good character, all told. He just seems dull at a glance because he's surrounded by bombastic Orcs and a theatrical Elf ghost.
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Aug 4, 2018 07:36
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Does anyone have any fun/unique builds they'd recommend? I know there's a balefire build (I'm using a modified epic version of that that focuses more on poison) and also a perma-wrath build centered around a wrathgiver sword I'm still hunting for. I'm looking for fun new things to try now that I finished shadow wars.
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Aug 4, 2018 21:04
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Crowetron posted:Talion's a pretty good character, all told. He just seems dull at a glance because he's surrounded by bombastic Orcs and a theatrical Elf ghost. Yeah. Turns out "genuinely good, self-sacrificing heroic long-haired dad" is actually a way more fun character to play than "angsty angry brooding troubled shorthaired dad," which seems to be the actual default protagonist for video games these days. E: That looks sarcastic but I do actually mean it.
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Aug 4, 2018 22:13
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Dude I can't lie I wanted to hate Talion when I started back in Shadow of Mordor but after this whole ride he's a bro
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Aug 4, 2018 22:31
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I like Tailon, I enjoyed the interaction in act I between Shelob, Tailon, and Celebrimbor, when Celebrimbor says something like "Pah! This witch is not to be trusted!" then confidently starts to walk away past Tailon expecting him to follow suit, instead he walks right over to her to accept her visions again. Celebrimbor's defeated dejected face in the background is great.
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Aug 4, 2018 23:26
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Talion has his own agency in this game which did wonders for me actually liking him. In the first game he was basically being dragged along by circumstance and that sucked but making that choice in this one owned.
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Aug 6, 2018 10:27
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Man I'm really loving the online conquest system. Assaults are a lot of fun and I get to steal lots of good orcs from other people. I'm starting to get some good defense wins too after I started sticking assassin bodyguards in with my overlord. Bonus points if the overlord has savages and war banners- hope you like mashing the dodge button! 
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Aug 6, 2018 18:03
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HebrewMagic posted:Gimme a Nemesis system game but in a dwarf city and all my foes are just men and women I've drank more than Nemesis system dating sim. There, now everyone can come up with the horrors my brain did when the thought entered it...
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Aug 6, 2018 20:17
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I need to make a fort with only former slaves.
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Aug 6, 2018 20:29
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Wolfsheim posted:The nemesis system but you're in Hobbiton and all the procedurally generated enemies are just distant relatives or neighbors trying to steal your silverware and other goods
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Aug 6, 2018 20:36
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Hakarne posted:Man I'm really loving the online conquest system. Assaults are a lot of fun and I get to steal lots of good orcs from other people. I'm starting to get some good defense wins too after I started sticking assassin bodyguards in with my overlord. Bonus points if the overlord has savages and war banners- hope you like mashing the dodge button! Yeah i started getting wins with a fort that is manned entirely by chumps except for my ridiculous overlord and his two or three dudes; anyone can get through a fort, you win or lose in the overlords chamber. I try to stick at least two body guards on any overlord, and i make them legendary so the player might waste time trying to kill them for their drop. I know i hate fighting war banners, poison orcs of any stripe, and ologs, so that's what i fill the chamber with. Chamber chamber chamber.
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Aug 6, 2018 23:36
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I hate curse weapons way more than poison. Oh, you got hit once by a random mook? Say goodbye to all your wrath, focus, and minimap, sucker! I forget if it drains might too, but either way it's a huge pain in the rear end. War banners too. Is it just me or is there no cooldown on those things? I feel like as soon as I destroy the banner another one just pops right up seconds later.
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Aug 6, 2018 23:59
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If I am trying to gently caress with other players then I go with either Ologs or arrow immune orcs so that they can't shadow pull them to the ledge and butcher them at their leisure.
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Aug 7, 2018 00:05
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Inspector Hound posted:Nemesis game where you mercilessly kill elves Also executions use Metal Gear Rising's zandatsu system.
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Aug 7, 2018 00:28
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Gadzuko posted:I hate curse weapons way more than poison. Oh, you got hit once by a random mook? Say goodbye to all your wrath, focus, and minimap, sucker! I forget if it drains might too, but either way it's a huge pain in the rear end. War banners too. Is it just me or is there no cooldown on those things? I feel like as soon as I destroy the banner another one just pops right up seconds later. There's a reason I ran curse on all my fort dudes. Curse was legit the most annoying poo poo.
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Aug 7, 2018 10:55
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Does the ability for an orc to taunt during an arena match add anything to the game aside from the ability for orcs to randomly decide to throw a match? I don't understand why it's in the game, the taunts aren't even amusing. They just raise their arms.
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Aug 8, 2018 06:21
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My new favorite Talion one liner: Soon to be dead overlord: "Hope they told you outside, I play ~rough~" Talion: "They didn't tell me much. They were too busy dying or fleeing. Currently rolling along online fortress assaults to look for interesting orcs to kidnap. I figure if other people thought they were cool enough to make overlord, they'll be good enough for me. (Specifically looking to grab more necromancer orcs)
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Aug 10, 2018 21:58
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i cant seem to have my orcs infiltrate as warchiefs. every time i kill one his bodyguards stay where they are and he gets replaced almost instantly by a completely new guy. am i doing something wrong or is the game telling me to man up and go attack the fort already
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Aug 15, 2018 00:31
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cuntman.net posted:i cant seem to have my orcs infiltrate as warchiefs. every time i kill one his bodyguards stay where they are and he gets replaced almost instantly by a completely new guy. am i doing something wrong or is the game telling me to man up and go attack the fort already Nah, what you gotta do is go to your army screen, order a guy to infiltrate, and do his pit fight IMMEDIATELY. Doing any other Nemesis Events advances time and respawns the warchief.
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Aug 15, 2018 00:39
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thanks, i was starting to think thatd just make him become a bodyguard for the next warchief
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Aug 15, 2018 00:54
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Just started playing this game recently after picking it up in the summer sale and I'm really enjoying it. Switching to nemesis mode was a huge help in that as I'm now dying every so often and properly engaging with the strengths and weaknesses of the captains I'm facing - although I lucked into some legendary poison on crit gear early on and for a bit everything just melted. I've got a quick question about interaction with the previous game: does your old nemesis show up after the act 1 pit fight? I honestly don't remember him showing up there but I've just popped over to Gorgoroth following a mission chain and he (or his identical twin) is definitely there as the overlord. Nazu the Chop pursued me all the way through the first game like an orcish terminator so I'm looking forward to taking his fort from him.
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Aug 21, 2018 07:58
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Party Boat posted:I've got a quick question about interaction with the previous game: does your old nemesis show up after the act 1 pit fight? I honestly don't remember him showing up there but I've just popped over to Gorgoroth following a mission chain and he (or his identical twin) is definitely there as the overlord. Nazu the Chop pursued me all the way through the first game like an orcish terminator so I'm looking forward to taking his fort from him. That guy is all but guaranteed to cheat death at least once.
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Aug 21, 2018 14:21
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VolticSurge posted:That guy is all but guaranteed to cheat death at least once. I fought that guy 4 times and not only did he cheat death every time, he returned with a (different) legendary scar + title change every time.
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Aug 21, 2018 14:22
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Jack Trades posted:I fought that guy 4 times and not only did he cheat death every time, he returned with a (different) legendary scar + title change every time. These are my favorites and it sucks how rare they can be
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Aug 21, 2018 14:27
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By the end of the first game all his limbs were stitched back on and he had a big metal neck brace / jaw type arrangement from the number of times I'd beheaded him. Hopefully he has room for a few more scars.
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Aug 21, 2018 14:44
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WoodrowSkillson posted:These are my favorites and it sucks how rare they can be The legendary scars can only show up once per game because ??? ~game design~
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Aug 21, 2018 15:33
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They likely knew that 90% of players would only play through the game once (and of that even fewer would complete it) and therefore wanted their "cool orc story" to not be identical to everyone else's. My "cool unbroken guy" is less cool if everyones also got a cool unbroken guy.
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Aug 21, 2018 15:38
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dogstile posted:They likely knew that 90% of players would only play through the game once (and of that even fewer would complete it) and therefore wanted their "cool orc story" to not be identical to everyone else's. "Prak, go ambush this dude" *His mission starts* "YOU KNOW ME, NOT EVEN THE GRAVEWALKER COULD SHAME ME"
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Aug 21, 2018 19:29
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VolticSurge posted:Nah, what you gotta do is go to your army screen, order a guy to infiltrate, and do his pit fight IMMEDIATELY. Doing any other Nemesis Events advances time and respawns the warchief. I had this bug too, sometimes the warchief would be replaced before I could even assign a guy to the pit fight. And sometimes the pit fights would bug out so that I had a 100% chance of losing until I just manned up and took the fort. I think it was Seregost that this happened in, in case its scripted to be like that. I threw 5 of my favorite orcs at that pit fight and then they'd just stand there and taunt while they got murdered.
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Aug 21, 2018 23:22
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My reunion with Nazu the Chop was pretty underwhelming. I spent a bit of time beforehand exploring Cirith Ungol (not Gorgoroth as I mistakenly said earlier) and managed to get three of my own captains installed as his warchiefs, which made it a gentle stroll to his throne room. He reminisced about killing me but despite still being really aggressive he seemed much less scary than before. I ended up dominating him and sending him off into the lower ranks. Maybe he'll betray me at some point. Also is it just me or are the throne room fights really bad? Choosing the terrain for a battle and exploiting the environment is one of the best parts of this game, so trapping you in a smallish area that's identical for every overlord feels like a big letdown compared to how good fights out in the open with random captains can get. I know about going up on the balconies if you want to use stealth and summoning your mount and bodyguard, but it's still a pale imitation of what you can do in other battles.
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Aug 22, 2018 01:13
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Party Boat posted:Also is it just me or are the throne room fights really bad? Choosing the terrain for a battle and exploiting the environment is one of the best parts of this game, so trapping you in a smallish area that's identical for every overlord feels like a big letdown compared to how good fights out in the open with random captains can get. I know about going up on the balconies if you want to use stealth and summoning your mount and bodyguard, but it's still a pale imitation of what you can do in other battles. No, it's not just you.
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Aug 22, 2018 03:01
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A Moose posted:I had this bug too, sometimes the warchief would be replaced before I could even assign a guy to the pit fight. And sometimes the pit fights would bug out so that I had a 100% chance of losing until I just manned up and took the fort. I think it was Seregost that this happened in, in case its scripted to be like that. I threw 5 of my favorite orcs at that pit fight and then they'd just stand there and taunt while they got murdered. yeah i also ran into it at seregost
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Aug 22, 2018 05:21
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Technowolf posted:No, it's not just you. The throne room fights are boring and anticlimactic.
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Aug 22, 2018 14:17
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The fight pit stuff seems so bad, am I missing something? The levels of the 2 orcs don't seem to matter at all, I just had an Level 32 orc lose to a level 23, neither had any sort of mortal weakness the other exploited. Is it just purely RNG? The fights aren't even fun to watch, the animation is janky and when you're about to lose an orc because he's just standing there it's incredibly frustrating. There's no other way to infiltrate a spy right?
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Sep 3, 2018 15:18
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Spalec posted:The fight pit stuff seems so bad, am I missing something? The levels of the 2 orcs don't seem to matter at all, I just had an Level 32 orc lose to a level 23, neither had any sort of mortal weakness the other exploited. Is it just purely RNG? The fights aren't even fun to watch, the animation is janky and when you're about to lose an orc because he's just standing there it's incredibly frustrating. They are very lackluster and RNG yeah, and unfortunately no there is no other way to infiltrate a spy. Would have been nice with a cool tag team sneaking/assassination mission where you are your uruk pal actually infiltrated the ranks together and ensured the spys place, but instead we got uruk pokemon. Which to be fair i've had some fun with, but it's not really very engaging gameplay and collecting the perfect pit fighter is kinda pointless cause like you pointed out he can be shat on by RNG at any point. The only way to really ensure success is to pick a fighter that has something that terrifies the opponent to the point where he stops fighting or is perma dazed. Like a dude with fire coming out of every hole against someone that's terrified of fire for instance.
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