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Ah, Russia went back in time and hacked the constitutional convention. Somehow the change didn't register in the minds of the Clinton campaign. I'm super mad and frustrated now. yeah, I'm not John Q Public E: Maybe you are playing a role in promoting the idea of U.S.democracy destabilization.
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Alienwarehouse posted:the supposed anti-war party— Alienwarehouse posted:the Democrats— ????? is this some kind of joke
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people are more upset about russians doing some nebulous hacking and stealing this election than they were when george bush literally stole the election in 2000
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Main Paineframe posted:????? is this some kind of joke I said "supposed." That was the image they had, at least compared to republicans.
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Terror Sweat posted:people are more upset about russians doing some nebulous hacking and stealing this election than they were when george bush literally stole the election in 2000 People were pretty dang angry about that too but also didn't have any clear path forward though the courts.
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 russia is a distraction guys, it's red bating, trump did nothing wrong https://twitter.com/biannagolodryga/status/848328774131339264 
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Gringostar posted:
russia IS a distraction, and no leftist in the world is going to say trump did nothing wrong
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Terror Sweat posted:russia IS a distraction 'Kay. From...what?
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sexpot posted:'Kay. From...what? From things that poor people care about, such as healthcare, social security, unions, and SNAP. But yeah, Putin hacked my Obamacare account.
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Alienwarehouse posted:From things that poor people care about, such as healthcare, social security, unions, and SNAP. LOL I don't believe so
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i've asked this in cspam before but what reality do you gusy live in where russia is the only story right now, rather than trump being bombarded 24/7 by negative news criticizing his approach to the budget, immigration, healthcare, diplomacy, etc even my dumbest dem friends who constantly lament the defeat of dear abuelita constantly talk about a lot of poo poo trump and the us govt are bad at besides the existence of a russian connection
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wizard on a water slide posted:i've asked this in cspam before but what reality do you gusy live in where russia is the only story right now What
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Alienwarehouse posted:From things that poor people care about, such as healthcare, social security, unions, and SNAP.  if you think poor people care about that poo poothey give a poo poo about someone telling them it's going to be alright even if that person lies through their teeth
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Alienwarehouse posted:From things that poor people care about, such as healthcare, social security, unions, and SNAP. hmm so maybe we should do nothing to hurt trumps ability to destroy all those
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Bip Roberts posted:hmm so maybe we should do nothing to hurt trumps ability to destroy all those even if the top 5 people in the chain of succession were sent to jail for treason they would still be destroyed by the conservatives at the top. trump is the symptom, not the cause
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Terror Sweat posted:even if the top 5 people in the chain of succession were sent to jail for treason they would still be destroyed by the conservatives at the top. trump is the symptom, not the cause Yeah but wrecking the republican party with a giant scandal doesn't hurt.
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wizard on a water slide posted:even my dumbest dem friends who constantly lament the defeat of dear abuelita constantly talk about a lot of poo poo trump and the us govt are bad at besides the existence of a russian connection
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Bip Roberts posted:Yeah but wrecking the republican party with a giant scandal doesn't hurt. why it's almost like the main point of this is to depress republican voter turnout
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Bip Roberts posted:hmm so maybe we should do nothing to hurt trumps ability to destroy all those Stop thinking on the defensive, dumbasses.
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Corky Romanovsky posted:Stop thinking on the defensive, dumbasses. how is this defensive?
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It is merely defending existing legislation.
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Corky Romanovsky posted:It is merely defending existing legislation. Is this something that shouldn't be done?
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Simply defending current legislation does nothing to advance the nation.
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Hmm so the powerful shouldn't be held accountable to the law. Got it.
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Apr 2, 2017 08:33
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Corky Romanovsky posted:It is merely defending existing legislation. as it turns out it's pretty hard to pass things when you're the minority in every branch of government
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Corky Romanovsky posted:Who said anything about pass? It's pretty hard to "advance the nation" without actually accomplishing things
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Apr 2, 2017 15:27
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If only there was a poll or referendum on "inspired vision" vs "preserving the status quo"...
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Main Paineframe posted:as it turns out it's pretty hard to pass things when you're the minority in every branch of government It's also impossible to pass good laws even when you have the majority especially if you are a democrat.
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wizard on a water slide posted:i've asked this in cspam before but what reality do you gusy live in where russia is the only story right now, rather than trump being bombarded 24/7 by negative news criticizing his approach to the budget, immigration, healthcare, diplomacy, etc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtcPzet9Fnc every time i turn on npr it's russia this or russia that
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also in case it wasn't immediately obvious from the video, the head of the dnc, tom perez, tries to deflect a question about superdelegates and the issues with the dnc primaries by talking about russia he's literally using the russia angle to try to get away from criticism of the democratic party
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also for context in case you dont understand how absurd the democratic party superdelegate system is and why criticism of it is warranted and entirely legitimate and why the literal head of the dnc not wanting to answer questions about it is so loving stupid: https://www.bustle.com/articles/141611-does-the-gop-have-superdelegates-the-republican-partys-nomination-rules-are-different-this-year quote:The technical answer is that yes, the Republican Party does have superdelegates. However, they function differently for the GOP than Democrats, and in 2016, Republican superdelegates will have way, way less power and autonomy than the superdelegates on the Democratic side.
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its bad and dumb but they're a private political club not a gov. institution (lol)
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I want so badly to outlaw private political clubs from sharing funds or colluding it owuld really gently caress america up if individuals ran on their own merits not a (D) or (R)
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Most intelligent voting systems have the idea of a party baked into it from the start, which is better than simply expecting autonomous politicians all day erryday, like the founding fathers thought you'd get.
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Maybe have membership determined by a computer, based on individual voting record. Oops, 95% get put in the Dirtbag Party.
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rudatron posted:Most intelligent voting systems have the idea of a party baked into it from the start, which is better than simply expecting autonomous politicians all day erryday, like the founding fathers thought you'd get. The Founding Father were really kind of dumb in many ways. That or malicious conniving bastards who wanted everyone else to *think* they weren't going to form a political party so they could unleash their political party and take the others by surprise.
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Not a Step posted:The Founding Father were really kind of dumb in many ways. or smug power-hungry aristocrats who thought commoners are too stupid to self govern and thought they were any better than the other smug power-hungry aristocrats they fashioned themselves after in the old world "dumb and incompetent in a condescending way" is the history of western politics basically
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comedyblissoption posted:also in case it wasn't immediately obvious from the video, the head of the dnc, tom perez, tries to deflect a question about superdelegates and the issues with the dnc primaries by talking about russia superdelegates didn't steal the election
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Main Paineframe posted:superdelegates didn't steal the election neithet did the russians.
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