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gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

elentar posted:

At the same time I can't imagine him being happy wrecking the Valley year in year out, only to get stuck with another double digit seed.

30-4 and a 10 seed is brutal.

# ¿ Mar 14, 2017 01:08

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 23:00

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

17.5M/5 for Cuonzo? Jesus.

Please take the offer so we don't screw up and hire you.

# ¿ Mar 15, 2017 20:30

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

We offered Cuonzo 18M? Ugh

# ¿ Mar 15, 2017 22:23

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Coach Tom Crean is gone.

Archie? Marshall?

# ¿ Mar 16, 2017 17:23

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Eltoasto posted:

Should have grabbed Handsome Brad when they could have, now maybe they will go after the current Butler coach.

Yeah, that seems like it should be the floor for them.

# ¿ Mar 16, 2017 17:54

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

elentar posted:

NC State seems to be interviewing Kevin Keatts now that UNCW is out. I'd have no problem with that hire but don't see a reason to rush it with other potentials still in play.

I think Keatts is going to be good.

# ¿ Mar 17, 2017 22:06

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

elentar posted:

Keatts is official at NC State. Seems awful quick but then I guess they've been working on this in the background for more than a month now. Pretty young still, lots of connections in the region and beyond, has a reputation as an elite recruiter. Think it's a pretty good hire, all told. Definitely beats the hell out of the last couple searches.

UNCW kenpom rating the four years before Keatts got there (coached by a dude who had a cup of coffee as a power 5 HC):
203
238
287
280

Keatts' three years, kenpom rating:
174
85
57

Pretty darn impressive.

# ¿ Mar 18, 2017 03:28

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

I wanted Drew first Underwood second last year. Better late than never.

E:walker is staying as well

gvibes fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Mar 18, 2017

# ¿ Mar 18, 2017 23:05

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

BEHOLD my amazing predictive powers - https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3762604#post455723085

gvibes posted:

Who will be the next Illinois head coach?

Gregggg Marshall, Archie Miller, and Chris Mack are probably the dream candidates, but are all probably going to be too expensive and/or not willing to leave.

Just right: Bryce Drew, Valpo

Low-budget option: Brad Underwood, Stephen F. Austin

# ¿ Mar 19, 2017 02:44

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Is IU smart enough to hire Gregg Marshall?

# ¿ Mar 19, 2017 22:15

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Grittybeard posted:

First opening in a while where I could imagine him doing it, but for some reason I bet they don't.

e: Or he decides not to, which is possible.

He makes a poo poo ton of money, so he may just retire there, but it must suck to go 30-4 and get a ten seed.

# ¿ Mar 19, 2017 22:43

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

elentar posted:

Big Ten is too snobbish about academics (or pretends to be, anyway) to make any swaps.

We were, but then we let in Nebraska

# ¿ Mar 22, 2017 16:35

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

elentar posted:

Three Pitt players have transferred out in three weeks. Stallings was always a weird hire for them, looks to be playing out now.

Oddly enough, Nebraska is a huge hub for what I do. (Not corn-related in any way.)

I think it's the only big ten university not in the AAU

# ¿ Mar 22, 2017 18:57

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Patrick Ewing.

# ¿ Mar 23, 2017 23:42

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Henchman of Santa posted:

And he just decided to go back to Winthrop half an hour before his introductory press conference.

Conspiracy theory: Mack->IU, Winthrop guy->Xavier

# ¿ Mar 24, 2017 16:32

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Grittybeard posted:

Has Missouri ever had the top recruit in the nation?

The only guys I can think of that might have been that high are from like the 80s, and I don't know if they even had recruiting rankings back then.

KAREEM RUSH

e: RSCI #34, 1999. That's as close as I recall.

e2: How could I forget Linas Kleiza. Quin Snyder was a pretty good recruiter.

gvibes fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Mar 25, 2017

# ¿ Mar 25, 2017 06:41

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Grittybeard posted:

Was he that high? I know he was a big get but I was thinking like, Stipanovich or maybe Derrick Chevious were the likeliest guys.

No, not at all. But I don't know anything in college basketball that happened before maybe 2002.

# ¿ Mar 25, 2017 06:47

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

I'm glad Indiana didn't hire a Marshall or a Bennett or whatever. I am somewhat indifferent to Miller.

# ¿ Mar 25, 2017 21:03

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Grittybeard posted:

I think he's a pretty good coach, but Indiana was always going to end up with a pretty good coach.

You should obviously be wishing they hired Alford, but we all were.

Yep yep. I like Mack better too, but I don't know if he was a realistic option.

# ¿ Mar 25, 2017 22:17

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Grittybeard posted:

Romar was a super excellent amazing recruiter, he just happened to be a very bad coach.

I expect to say this same thing about Cuonzo in about three years.

Actually maybe one year will do it.

I think Cuonzo can coach defense, but his offenses are ugly.

# ¿ Mar 26, 2017 19:00

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

gvibes posted:

Patrick Ewing.

It is done.

# ¿ Apr 3, 2017 19:38

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Amazing what he is able to do with only six McDonald's All Americans on the roster.

# ¿ Apr 4, 2017 16:42

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

John Groce to Akron. Bring the TNT (toughness and togetherness) back to Ohio.

# ¿ Apr 4, 2017 21:50

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Hello Towel posted:

Dammit, I was hoping he'd come be an assistant for Archie in Bloomington.

I think he's a bad coach, but it's probably good for us that he can't use his Illinois recruiting connections for IU.

# ¿ Apr 5, 2017 04:45

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Looks like Orlando Antigua is coming in as an assistant. I like the hire.

e: Jeremiah Tillmon decommited. Don't like that.

gvibes fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Apr 5, 2017

# ¿ Apr 5, 2017 14:39

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Mike_V posted:

Time for him to fulfill his destiny and come to Columbia, MO.

I assume that's the destination.

# ¿ Apr 5, 2017 20:58

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

americanzero4128 posted:

Jalen Coleman-Lands is transferring from Illinois.

To Depaul. Hah. (Depaul hired his high school coach).

# ¿ May 26, 2017 22:52

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Happened under Underwood at OSU. Welp.

# ¿ Sep 26, 2017 14:55

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Bird in a Blender posted:

I'm assuming this has to do with AAU stuff and paying off high school coaches for recruits.

The Lamont Evans accusations relate to shady financial advisors bribing coaches for access to players to pitch them.

# ¿ Sep 26, 2017 15:09

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

pathetic little tramp posted:

Louisville and Miami are implicated from the details, but I don't see any news about arrests having been made at either program.

Yeah, specific allegations of players paid to attend both of those schools

# ¿ Sep 26, 2017 15:17

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Pitino discussing the recruitment of the player that was paid $100k to come to Louisville.

# ¿ Sep 26, 2017 15:57

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

General Dog posted:

Is there any reason the schools with the assistants accepting bribes to guide current players to certain advisers would experience much blowback as far as NCAA sanctions? These guys were acting outside the interests of the school and the team and just exploiting their players for personal gain. The school gains no tangible benefit from it; it's effectively the same as if an assistant had been embezzling money from the team. He's fired, and he's going to jail, but if that's the extent of it I don't see why Auburn, OkSt, Arizona, etc. have anything to worry about other than the black eye.

Well, Lamont Evans, thought he charges relate to the agent thing, was also recorded saying that he was providing money to current players, and was also asking for money to pay a recruit.

Though it's possible he was full of poo poo.

That's the only one I've read somewhat carefully due to my Underwood interest.

# ¿ Sep 27, 2017 15:19

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

A Bruce Pearl-coached team cheating? Now I've heard everything.

# ¿ Sep 27, 2017 17:37

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

Well they hired the Porter kids' dad and paid him a shitload of money above the table, which is something the NCAA allows.

Yeah, that isn't cheating. If you are willing to devote one of your three full assistant slots to a kid's dad, go ahead.

The other thing (and I think SMU just did this with a kid), is that the restriction on hiring someone close to a kid to a non-assistant role is imposed at the start of the player's junior year, so you can "legally" hire someone to a bullshit role if you are willing to risk that on a commitment from a sophomore.

# ¿ Sep 28, 2017 19:00

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Top 25-ish PG Ayo Dosumnu announcing tonight. Illinois or Wake. Not sure why he didn't get more interest from better teams.

# ¿ Oct 19, 2017 17:03

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

americanzero4128 posted:

Ayo to Illinois. Highest ranked recruit picking Illinois I can think of since maybe Dee Brown?

Edit - maybe not, forgot about Jerome Richmond

Jereme and Meyers Leonard were both in that range, I think.

# ¿ Oct 20, 2017 04:26

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Meanwhile:
https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/922467416923344896

Also, preseason kenpom is out (which is a bad projection system, but w/e)
Big Ten:
1 (10) - Michigan State
2 (17) - Purdue
3 (18) - Northwestern
4 (31) - Wisconsin
5 (32) - Michigan
6 (36) - Minnesota
7 (40) - Penn State
8 (41) - Maryland
9 (54) - Iowa
10 (65) - Indiana
11 (78) - Ohio State
12 (98) - Nebraska
13 (104) - Illinois
14 (125) - Rutgers

e: (203) - Indiana State

gvibes fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Oct 23, 2017

# ¿ Oct 23, 2017 16:06

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

There is some insane rumor that top 100+ ish recruit Talen Horton Tucker is committing to Illinois shortly, but that if he does, top 25-ish Ayo Dosunmu will decommit. That would be the perfect Illinois ending.

Love recruiting rumors.

# ¿ Oct 25, 2017 04:45

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 23:00

gvibes: Jan 18, 2010; Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

SamuraiFoochs posted:

Where the gently caress would Ayo go?

Wake I guess, but it sounds like we just told THT not to come.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2017 22:20

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