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Ok, I'm having a debate with my wife right now. One of us says definitively that the decade with the greatest musical difference from beginning to end is the 1990's. Look at the styles of the billboard top hits of 1990 ('Opposites Attract' by Paula Abdul, 'Vouge' by Madonna, 'Ice Ice Baby' by Vanilla Ice, etc) compared to those of 1999 ('Baby One More Time' by Britney Spears, 'Smooth' by Santana, 'Livin La Vida Loca' by Ricky Martin, etc). Not to mention the "alternative" trend of the early-mid 90's with Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, etc; rap finding its voice with Coolio, Snoop, NWA, etc; nu-metal, etc, and it's the most musically diverse decade in history. We peaked in the 1990's and it's been kind of downhill since. The other one of us says that each decade has its own trends and genres/subgenres and that the 1990's isn't any different than any other decade. Goons know a lot about music (much more than I do) and should be able to argue this point one way or the other definitively. Who's right?
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It's actually the 60's hth
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Mar 16, 2017 03:46
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When you resort to backup from internet strangers it's a clear sign you've lost whatever argument you're making.
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Mar 16, 2017 03:47
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Industrial was pretty great in the '90s But the Spice Girls ruined everything
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Mar 16, 2017 03:50
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It's a tricky question because variety is hard to define. Out of the 1990's emerged a lot of sounds which we're familiar with today, though those sounds were building off earlier music from the 1970's and 80's. A band which sounds like Devo today wouldn't necessarily sound like most other bands releasing music, though Devo and a lot of the original No Wave and New Wave forerunners still exist in some form or other. We run into the question of whether Devo and hypothetical Devo sound alike are unique enough. All musicians steal to some extent so it's not even a matter of whether they sound too much alike, but also what they're attempting to express. We should also take into consideration the evolution of sound unique to the individual bands. Devo recording in the 1970's is a different entity than 80's Devo. The same could be true for most musical groups, which mature and grow as any organic creature. Is there more variety because there is more and different Devo, and also those Devo has influenced? There are a million genres of music today, but you would have to ask someone that listens and understands club music to differentiate between gabber and trance so the average person could understand. It's possible then that primitive music held the most variety globally, as these people would have had only minor influence outside of their own village or clan, and so could express themselves completely uniquely. Geographically speaking there's probably much more of a variety available to the average listener in Podunk, MI or Sheepfuck, Wales than ever before. The 1990's seems like an arbitrary time period tbqh
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Mar 16, 2017 04:21
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the most variety is now because there is literally more music every day theres more songs holy poo poo
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Mar 16, 2017 04:23
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Thirsty Girl posted:the most variety is now because there is literally more music every day theres more songs holy poo poo yeah come on op there wasn't even gurf music in the 90s
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Mar 16, 2017 04:45
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Thirsty Girl posted:the most variety is now because there is literally more music every day theres more songs holy poo poo it's still rock and roll to me
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Mar 16, 2017 04:46
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no other day in history has had as many songs as today
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Mar 16, 2017 05:12
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Within just pop music, yes I agree it was most varied in the 90's. At least here in Australia it was.
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Mar 16, 2017 05:15
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shut the gently caress up my taint
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Mar 16, 2017 05:15
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I think what made the 90's so exciting musically was the huge advances in computer power which opened up all sorts of exciting new production techniques. The differences between 1990 pop and 2000 pop is massive. Compare 2007 pop to 2017 pop its basically the same poo poo.
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Mar 16, 2017 05:21
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to address that op's concerns, however: every time I hear "Smooth" by Santana (featuring Rob Thomas) I cringe a little bit I think that song traumatized me
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Mar 16, 2017 05:22
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Your Taint posted:Ok, I'm having a debate with my wife right now. One of us says definitively that the decade with the greatest musical difference from beginning to end is the 1990's. Look at the styles of the billboard top hits of 1990 ('Opposites Attract' by Paula Abdul, 'Vouge' by Madonna, 'Ice Ice Baby' by Vanilla Ice, etc) compared to those of 1999 ('Baby One More Time' by Britney Spears, 'Smooth' by Santana, 'Livin La Vida Loca' by Ricky Martin, etc). Not to mention the "alternative" trend of the early-mid 90's with Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, etc; rap finding its voice with Coolio, Snoop, NWA, etc; nu-metal, etc, and it's the most musically diverse decade in history. We peaked in the 1990's and it's been kind of downhill since. The 90s had everything from top 40 american pop garbage to other top 40 american pop garbage.
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Mar 16, 2017 05:22
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Schweinhund posted:The 90s had everything from top 40 american pop garbage to other top 40 american pop garbage.
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Mar 16, 2017 05:25
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1994 was a good year for Trance when this came out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVy_RBt-lT4
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Mar 16, 2017 05:29
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this will make for a cool discussion but OP, i hope you're okay with never having a definitive answer to this because there isnt one
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Mar 16, 2017 05:31
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you forgot the brian setzer orchestra dude
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Mar 16, 2017 05:31
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I don't even give a poo poo, I think music is stupid. Alternative is cool tho. 
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Mar 16, 2017 05:37
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Mar 16, 2017 06:39
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I love grunge and grew up on it so anything that means 90s won gets my vote/support. By support I mean if you want me to personally call your wife and tell her she's a acrid, plebeian whore for not being pro 90s I'll do it. And hope you don't mind getting cucked cause that'll probably turn her on.
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Mar 16, 2017 06:42
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all you need are looks and a whole lot of money
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Mar 16, 2017 06:46
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Op, I've put a lot of thought into this and decided you must be the most boring person on the planet. I'd rather stab my eardrums out than listen to one of your conversations with your wife.
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Mar 16, 2017 07:35
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rofl i clicked onto this thread just to post this and i lost. *gazes at shoes*
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Mar 16, 2017 07:37
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Manchild King posted:The US market has always been extremely Xenophobic. In better countries it used to be about 15% local artists and the rest was a mixture of the worlds best. MTV for a while at least had a window a week in the form of 120 MInutes and Earth to MTV where the former would give you a lot of UK alternative stuff and the latter would feature I think exclusively featured only non-US groups. I don't know how much influence that really had, though, with US tastes or exposure. Cibo Matto and Pizzicato 5 were likely the only Japanese acts to get some degree of US fame in the early 90s, one possibly just from having a video show up on Beavis and Butthead. Wasn't there some other Japanese girl group in the early 90s that had some popularity in the US?
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Mar 16, 2017 08:37
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stop yapping honey ill settle this - im going to ask the computer a subjective question about art
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Mar 16, 2017 08:39
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most of the 90s was wasted on the rise of corporate creation boy bands and girl bands and dance gimmick songs heavily on both ends of it. gansta rap emerging from rap was very distracting and for the most part traded creativity for gimmicky cool i would sooner go with the oughts or 80s for diversity
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Mar 16, 2017 09:27
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Freaks me out that I still remember those NOW! mix cd commercials, and they are up to almost album 100 or so.
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Mar 16, 2017 09:32
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music sucks and you're a manbaby if you listen to it
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Mar 16, 2017 09:36
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JediTalentAgent posted:Wasn't there some other Japanese girl group in the early 90s that had some popularity in the US? Shonen Knife but they are an actual band
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Mar 16, 2017 11:31
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The Wizard of Poz posted:this will make for a cool discussion but OP, i hope you're okay with never having a definitive answer to this because there isnt one Except Thirsty Girl posted:the most variety is now because there is literally more music every day theres more songs holy poo poo
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Mar 16, 2017 11:34
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I can't get enough of are Dan
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JediTalentAgent posted:MTV for a while at least had a window a week in the form of 120 MInutes and Earth to MTV where the former would give you a lot of UK alternative stuff and the latter would feature I think exclusively featured only non-US groups. I don't know how much influence that really had, though, with US tastes or exposure. Cibo Matto and Pizzicato 5 were likely the only Japanese acts to get some degree of US fame in the early 90s, one possibly just from having a video show up on Beavis and Butthead. British indie of the late 80s/early 90s was extremely my poo poo and I was initially intro'ed to that poo poo through 120 minutes. Shonen Knife is probably the Japanese band you're thinking of. I also got into a band called Pugs because they got onto a CMJ comp once, but I don't think anyone else in this country gave a poo poo about them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5fKdp2OKHM
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I should have easily remembered Shonen Knife and I can't figure out why I couldn't. For some reason Cibo Matto seemed to get some MTV push in the early 90s or so with that song "Know your Chicken". I seem to remember them pushing it in some station ID stuff and ads every so often. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl-lPihWfkA Fantastic Plastic Machine: Mr. Salesman is a song I found thanks to a CMJ CD, too. It came out right around the time of the first two Austin Powers movies and it always struck me as something that would have fit in the soundtrack pretty easily. CMJ Comp. CDs were great, even if they were hit and miss.
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Mar 16, 2017 19:33
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my man the OP have you heard of synthwave
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Mar 16, 2017 20:31
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"opposites attract" was recorded and released in the 80s, OP Paula Abdul would be shaking her head in so much disappointment right now
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Mar 16, 2017 20:41
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who cares about variety i only listen to baby metal lmbo
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Mar 16, 2017 20:47
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Tell your friend to suck your dick, then suck his dick first to show him you're serious
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Mar 16, 2017 20:56
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Put on the Dawson's creek soundtrack and have a really special day of it
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Mar 16, 2017 20:56
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I broke my Sony MDR v6 for this very reason.
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Could someone tell me which track this album starts getting good? I've tried listening to it a few times but none of the first few songs ever make an impression on me and the production is bad (not in a good way). Unless that aesthetic and sound is basically the whole appeal, I guess I can respect that even though I don't get it
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