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Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
I don't mind the political chat so much in the context of discussing Youtube LP's and the like if it's relevant (like how the PewDiePie / Jontron stuff has affected their subscribers/views/other gigs/whatever). Just be civil and calm about it and don't go straying off the topic of this thread.

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Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
At this stage you're better off relying on Patreon or direct donations anyway. Relying on ad revenue is wonky as gently caress considering how god drat chaotic Youtube can be.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

TaurusOxford posted:

He claimed in his latest vlog that they MIGHT get married in a year or two under the conditions that his Twitch popularity increases and it becomes a reliable primary source of income.

Keep in mind, he only has about 270 subs and struggles to get above 400 viewers even on a day 1 AAA release. Some days he struggles to maintain even 300.

So if I watch the loud inept man fumble around incompetently at video games more, I can encourage him to get married to a woman who clearly has no sense.

I hope they stream the wedding like that other couple did (at least I hope it was only the one couple that live-streamed their wedding).

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

Jamesman posted:

If you think that's something, wait til you hear about the dude who live-streamed his funeral on Twitch.

Speaking of funeral streams, Chibi's Iwata funeral stream is a classic, particularly the part where he sings.

I'll see if I can find the wedding one tomorrow if no one else posts it first.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

RottenK posted:

this is just sad now

Only now?

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
I remember when Let's Plays meant something, man! Now we got all these corporate Let's Play stooges ruining it for everyone.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

Scaramouche posted:

Oh :( I liked my theory of "became LP bigshots and left" better

This leads into another question; do the rest of you guys "follow" streamers, as in tune in at certain times to watch them live? I'm inculcated to treat LP stuff as my "on demand" time killer, so I really only watch them when I feel like it which makes saving time for the Tuesday Super Hour or whenever problematic.

I'm the same way. I usually watch LPs when I'm eating dinner or want something in the background while I do other things. Plus personally most streams don't really do it for me compared to the polish that goes into a Let's Play.

I make an exception for the MDC though because their streams are usually top-notch. Occasionally I'll follow a Gaming Garbage stream as well if I have nothing going on.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

TaurusOxford posted:

As it turns out, Laveria Media is owned by a 20-year old that doesn't know what he's doing, who is still in university, and there's heavy evidence that the MCN is a glorified homework assignment.

youtube.txt

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
slowbeef wrote another article for Polygon, this time about advertisers pulling out from Youtube and how it affects those who rely on ad revenue for income. Solid read.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
The best way is probably to laugh it off as not a big deal, and to be fair DSP actually does this when it comes up.

It's a shame he's so horrible about everything else though.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

discworld is all I read posted:

I know Men Drinking Coffee just put up some videos where someone made a little game for them and one of the early jokes was about how they don't read text or tutorials.

Was about to recommend those videos.

bhlaab made a surprisingly adequate game based around the misadventures of the MDC, based partly on their past videos and partly from the dumb games made for other Youtube personalities like the AVGN and PewDiePie. And then the MDC streamed themselves playing it. Definitely worth a watch.

One | Two

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
Honestly if you registered for these forums to begin with you're probably an rear end in a top hat in some aspect.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
Don't kinkshame~

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

GoneRampant posted:

Also, I really wouldn't take NeoGAF's word on anything given how they're now 40-odd pages into accusations about Nick while they barely said a word about Amri0x, their mod that was charged for possessing child porn.

Might as well also ask why we're not bringing up Aatrek in this thread then.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

judge reinhold posted:

drat, Egoraptor, famous for being the first nerd online to explain why game design can be good and thusly became presumed audience-aware knowledge for other nerd-based videos about video game design, has now produced an album, meanwhile today I got excited to use the vacuum I bought at Costco. It really makes you think; if we traded places, would he become well-known for boringly explaining good vacuum design like a huge dork? We may never know.

That's a convoluted way to say Egoraptor sucks.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

Jamesman posted:

What's this now?

Asking for money in general is against the sitewide SA rules, mainly to prevent donation scams and drive-by panhandlers. Basically if you have a Patreon, don't post it on SA. Links to videos with the Patreon in the description or your Twitter account or whatever are fine.

Honestly I wonder if this should be changed since several forums beyond LP could benefit and Patreon's reasonable for people part of the community, but I also kinda worry about this becoming a sea of Patreon links.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

Putty posted:

The new layout disabled my Video Blocker so I saw minecrafts.

This is not acceptable.

I'm so sorry.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
Those coffee men will do anything to make a quick buck!

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

judge reinhold posted:

I did notice that the Mega Man Maker video about Cut Man being startled and falling in to the toilet made it in to YouTube's suggested video algorithm, so it could be due to that.

I'm glad even Youtube's algorithms realize when there's a video that needs to be seen by everyone.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
I'm just happy we're finally getting to the point that we're finally expecting game journalists to have qualities and standards beyond "I'm a game journalist because I call myself a game journalist."

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
My concern is it might set precedent for developers stopping people from hosting their games due to negative reviews/feedback or whatever other nonsense. We did have that whole thing between Jim Sterling and those guys who made terrible Steam games rather recently.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
"If you don't like it, don't watch it" is a dumb way to shut down criticism. It's definitely true to a point, i.e. don't needlessly poo poo continuously on something people may enjoy, but at the same time things should be allowed to be critiqued so people can improve, both the people being critiqued and the people who may want to incorporate the advice in their own projects.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
Some of the Patreon-funded channels I follow wait until the end of the video to acknowledge and thank their Patrons. End of a stream may not always work, but at least thanking new subscribers from the last stream at the start of the current stream would include that sense of involvement without distracting during the stream.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

Coolguye posted:

heck even pope Francis has pointed out that streamers and YouTube talking heads have a lot of power to make people feel included and joyful in today's society and has further insinuated it's their moral duty to do so (versus act like phil or drop epithets like pewds) because it supports the work of so many people who are working to make the world a better place in other ways

That's pretty great honestly, but then I'm wary since this conversation stemmed from people saying donation notifications are good since it encourages community. Encouraging people to donate to feel included seems scummy to me, even though I know most streamers aren't intentionally doing so. People should donate to reward/thank the streamer, not for community.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

KirbyKhan posted:

People give money to internet people for so many inexplicable reasons. For instance, a website that predates Twitch, MyFreeCams. There, people give internet people tokens for touching their junk and putting things in a butt.

What do you think of Twitch Cheers?

I always thought the two things Cheers was missing were slurs and emote spam.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

Putty posted:

Super Mario Run is currently 50% off as Nintendo's first ever discounted game

Nintendo's had digital discounts before. You can go to their rewards site and spend rewards currency to buy 30% discounts on 3DS/Wii U Virtual Console games.

...Guys I'm starting to think Nintendo may not know what they're doing in regards to online.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
What about speedrunners? They pull off technically impressive stuff in an entertaining manner, and it's hard to really replicate that outside video games.

I kinda relate general game streamers to sitcoms. There's a lot of terrible ones that probably don't deserve the views/money they get, but there's a few that are good that put effort into things and/or have natural charisma and can make anything charming. And of course who is "deserving" is a huge manner of debate depending on one's tastes, and I doubt even this thread would ever come to consensus on which streamers are "good".

Streaming's really not my thing, but if people enjoy watching and funding them, then who gives a poo poo what I think?

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

judge reinhold posted:

And I agree making money on video games feels like it'll inevitably stop/change drastically as companies realize there's additional revenue to be had there. But I dont think it justifies the prevalent hardline attitude this subforum had towards monetization for years because hey why not make $13, everyone here probably uses ad blocker anyway.

I think most of those people left SA and now make money on Twitch.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
The other weird thing is how varied LPs can tackle a game. There are LPs that alter/build stories around the games being covered, LPs that are in-depth critiques on the games being covered, LPs that involve modifications to games whether by the LPers themselves or by others, and so on. How do you begin to sort through all that?

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
What if you play the game at your local county fair?

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

BioEnchanted posted:

By that do you mean turn them into a toilet, or put their character model physically in a toilet like the hand in Majora's Mask?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJsSxWFnaQ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABiPg1UL9Vg

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
Somewhat related since it's the main way Youtube content creators make their money now, Patreon is going to bump up their fees for paying patrons, adding a service fee of 2.9% of a pledge plus 35 cents. So a $1 pledge will now cost a patron $1.38 or so. Patreon says this will help its artists understand how much they'll be making (since before the fees were taken from the artist's monthly sum) while giving them a larger percentage of fees (95% of the pledged money compared to ~90% before). However, many artists are concerned that this will discourage smaller pledges, as many rely on many low-dollar pledges to stay afloat, and those who make many small donations a month will now have to either pay more or cut some of those projects. There's been a lot of people pleading with Patreon to reconsider their case, but honestly I can't see any reason why they would. They're the big game in town, and content creators rely way too much on them at this point to influence their bottom line.

So it's basically Youtube all over again. Good luck to those who rely on Patreon, I guess! Better think up a Plan C in case Patreon gets worse in the next couple years.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

judge reinhold posted:

rear end Munching Ball Suckers sure got em good sending him one thousand dollars.

If you think about it it's really the ultimate troll.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
For all we mock DSP people still keep giving him money, so...

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
Money well spent.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

PhazonLink posted:

Dude you want to live in the timeline where he runs for prez as a joke and wins.

Because that went so well the last time that happened.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
Phil believes in the philosophy of “Stream while you stream.”

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
A shame he’s still releasing the same old content.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

Nice meltdown

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Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

Sage Grimm posted:

Nah, he's the meter stick on which all other LPers are measured.

I thought he was the one playing with the meter stick.

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