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Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Pro-DPRK ppl are dumbasses, is there anti-DPRK propaganda spread by the US and SK gov constantly? Yes. Is NK so hosed because of US scorched Earth policy during the Korean and trade isolation afterwards? Yes.

But NK is still a horrible fascist state with starving citizens and totalitarianism, if you go to SK you can find tons of ppl that have visited or formerly lived there and they'll tell you themselves lol

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Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Donkwich posted:

theyre not even communist anymore they removed all references in their constitution that they have for some reason

They believe in Juche, which is a weird interpretation/offshoot of Marxism created by Kim I'll Sung after the Soviets put him into power, since then Juche has been subverted even more than it's original doctrine, but the core concept behind it is self reliance and maintaining a "continuous revolution".

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
everyone in North korea has secret tvs to watch k drama because thats how important soap operas are in Korea lol

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
North Korea is a fascist dictatorship with a handful of hyperwealthy/military peeps living well while the rest of the country is starving/conscripted

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Ace of Baes posted:

North Korea is a fascist dictatorship with a handful of hyperwealthy/military peeps living well while the rest of the country is starving/conscripted

America in 2024 if Trump gets a second term basically

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
love 2 support fascist military dictatorships that starve their population while generals live like kings

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Fiction posted:

the US is why north korea is bad

That could be said about almost any country, defending fascist dictators who starve their own people and throw any dissidents in labor camps is still lovely.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
If you think about it, Hitler was good, because the US is bad.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

resar posted:

Conservative sausage man is mad at commies because his dad was a hippy beatnik.

North Korea isn't communist.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The US occupiers certainly figured the Nazis were good while they tried to set up our West German puppet government.

Complain about the North Korean government starving its own citizens all you like, but the United States is literally strangling the flow of food to them.
From the first page of the thread.


Ace of Baes posted:

Pro-DPRK ppl are dumbasses, is there anti-DPRK propaganda spread by the US and SK gov constantly? Yes. Is NK so hosed because of US scorched Earth policy during the Korean and trade isolation afterwards? Yes.

But NK is still a horrible fascist state with starving citizens and totalitarianism, if you go to SK you can find tons of ppl that have visited or formerly lived there and they'll tell you themselves lol

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
The only thing DPRK apologists are good at is being a caricature of leftists that libs and conservatives can point to when they argue against Socialism/Marxism/Communism.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Ace of Baes posted:

The only thing DPRK apologists are good at is being a caricature of leftists that libs and conservatives can point to when they argue against Socialism/Marxism/Communism.

Also see: L-M's and a large chunk of Anarchists.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

R. Guyovich posted:

this heavily sourced article i didn't bother to read is dumb and total bullshit. the seth rogen movie the interview, on the other hand....

Have you ever been to Korea?

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Unless someone on this forum is like a Korean-Chinese history scholar there's about a 0% chance that anyone here (including me) knows the best way to approach the North Korea dilemma.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Fojar38 posted:

why is america obligated to engage in any form of commerce with north korea at all including giving north korea access to american banking systems

If civilians are starving to death there's s moral obligation to prevent that as much as possible, it's really disturbing that this needs to be said lol

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
The US Government should prevent north Koreans from starving because they're human beings you sociopathic freaks

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Of course the government of NK has a moral obligation to it's people that it's breaking, it's ruled by a fascist military dictator manchild, the US has an obligation because we're the reason the citizens there have such a hosed up country, if you need me to explain why to you please go study what the us did in the Korean war.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Fojar38 posted:

Like it genuinely seems to me that the most clear and obvious way for the United States of America to ensure the end of the suffering of the people of North Korea would be to invade and physically conquer and annex the territory and then distribute free food, medicine, education, etc.

If this sounds like imperialism that's because that's exactly what it is.

Yeah they would end the suffering of millions of South Koreans as well when nork shells Seoul.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Fiction posted:

It's funny seeing people spout complete falsehoods about Korean history and then smugly act like they should be taken seriously.

Nobody in this thread knows poo poo about North Korean history, it's filled with revisionists from both sides lol

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
What if I told u...North Korean famines are a result of a US bombing campaign in the late Korean war that focused on non-military essential infrastructure, and that these famines are made worse simaltaneously by US sanctions and their horrible military regime of a gov.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Fojar38 posted:

imo you should save up to travel to north korea and learn first hand

I lived in Korea for a year and met plenty of people who'd lived there.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

gobbagool posted:

So a bombing campaign in the mid 1950s is still hampering agricultural production 65 years later? Good thing we never did that to Germany, Japan, Italy, Vietnam, or anyone else we've been at war with in the last century! I'd hate to think about a bunch of starving Germans!

Seriously your gimmick is tired. Go talk to pener for guidance on the light touch on the long troll. He's doing a much better job than you.

Lol you're so clueless.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Fojar38 posted:

why did you go to south korea and not north korea

Because the US military doesn't station troops in North Korea.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Fallen Hamprince posted:

on a scale of 1-10 how brutally did u repress the south korean people, who yearn for the guidance of kim jong-un

0, I just gave them medicine and drank maekju with them.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

gobbagool posted:

Explain. I'd like to know about this deep tech that ruins agriculture for decades

Ok here's a hint, look at how the US treated the countries you listed wrt reconstruction.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

gobbagool posted:

Oh I see. The us didn't pour billions into nk agriculture so they forgot how to grow food. Yeah about right, socialists don't know how to grow food unless the US pays for it. Surely the capitalists will sell the rope that will they one day be hanged with comrade!

Lol

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Mmmm I love capitalism nothing is better to me than exploiting the planet and it's inhabitants so an ultra wealthy class of owners can ride around in Golden yachts and literally get away with murder.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Imperialism is the highest form of capitalism and is responsible for more deaths than every fascist regime that's ever existed btw.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Fallen Hamprince posted:

watch out guys this one's woke, he's probably read the bread book and has a rose emoji next to his twitter name

What's it like to support an ideology that's responsible for enslaving Black people and committing genocide against the Native Americans?

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

gobbagool posted:

So the Kim family are capitalists? Consider me now woke on this topic
Yeah, North Korea is a state capitalist country with the ruling class imposing fascism on the the rest of the population. This is well documented with entire books about it lol

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

gobbagool posted:

Socialists love that classic Led Zeppelin song, everybody's fault but mine

North Korea isn't socialist you retard.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Liberals itt are on the same level as the right wing dudes who show up to socialist events and yell about the NSDAP.

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Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

No it isn't, the Nork gov funnels aid money into the Pyongyang elite while the rest of the country starves, it's a state capitalist fascist military dictatorship.

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